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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2006 at 19:42
Honestly I find this (as most of this forum here) thread quite futile just because there will always be some people liking this sub-genre and others not. Simply jazz isn't many people's cup of tea but for sure I love Cobham, Mahavishnu, Davis, Chick Corea and Perigeo and any other name I just don't recall in the moment. It's an exciting kind of music!!WinkBig smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2006 at 07:59
With lots of acknowledgement to member  John Paterson who posted the following at Fusenet, some wonderful Indonesian jazz fusion:


I have played Indonesian fusion by Discus on my shows but I just found
a new guy that burns:

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=wiz83vNXGZc (wait for the axe solo)

http://www.wayanbal awan.com

on doubleneck:
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=mlI7zS1E8hQ

and for a true melding of cultural extremes:
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=MxwC_-AWS9I

amazing stuff . . .

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 13:25
Great stuff DickClap 
it's a pity that some of the clips are so short , interesting custom build double neck.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2007 at 12:46
This one is for you, dear jazz-rock experts:
 
I'm happy to announce that I've recently bought the impressive Venegoni & Co.'s  "Live...Somewhere in the Seventies" (live recordings from 1979). Venegoni & Co is the band founded by Gigi Venegoni (ex Arti & Mestieri)
Live...somewhere in the seventies... - CD 
 
A great collection of jazz-rock live performances! A wonderful experience. The sound's quality is excellent and the general mood is powerful! One of the best I ever listened to! Highly recommended.
 
Venegoni & Co deserve to be included in this site asap!!!Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2007 at 12:49
Ain Soph from Japan is also recommended... if you like jazz fusion mixed with bits of Genesis, Pink Floyd or Camel you should check it out
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2007 at 13:01
Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

Ain Soph from Japan is also recommended... if you like jazz fusion mixed with bits of Genesis, Pink Floyd or Camel you should check it out
 
Coincidentally just before Christmas the Fusenet website/discussion group were flagging up Ain Soph as a band to check out - but on my personal checking out with my local prog specialist, I was asked which of the 2 or 3 Ain Sophs did I want. It seemed records/CDs of the jazz rocky one were  less common than the others.... So beware, ask before you buy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2007 at 13:43
Aka Moon. A wonderful Belgian Jazz band included here in the archives. They deserve more recognition!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2007 at 16:53
    I've seen several references to Larry Coryell but I may have missed specific references to the Eleventh House. The Eleventh House was considered pioneers in the fusion arena along with Mahavishnu Orchestra and RTF. Fusion based with Coryell at the helm. Eleventh House included Larry Coryell - guitar, Randy Brecker (1st album), Mike Lawrence (second album0 - trumpet, Mike Mandel keyboards, Danny Trifan (1st album) John Lee (second album) bass, and Alphonse Mouzon on drums. I highly recommend the first two albums (a few more were made after the second but the sound and personal were different).

Introducing the Eleventh House w\Larry Coryell

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2007 at 16:57

Very good recommendations here. So many obscure bands the most of them I've never heard of.

 

BTW, so none of you have listened to Venegoni & Co?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2007 at 18:16
^^^I haven't listened to any italian jazz-fusion but hope to do so in the near future
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2007 at 22:26
Lucas wrote:

A good database for jazz & jazz-rock afficionados :
 
http://sudo.3.pro.tok2.com/Quest/home/artists/index.html



Yeah tks its a great resource esp with the inclusion of album covers and stuff..tho artists discogs don't appear complete (e.g. Allan Holdsworth or Supersilent) but hell man at least the guy has Supersilent and their related indiv projects featured...yayy!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 05:06
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Originally posted by pero pero wrote:

And very greedy man also.
 

Reading Hendrix biography, I could not noticed that he asked from Hendrix manager 100.000 $ (1969) just for his appearance on the gig.

 

Heroin must have been expensive even back then. The Dark Magus (Davis) is not a personal idol to me, but his contribution to music makes up for personal shortcomings. His recuring heroin use is openly declared in his biorgraphy. Born in that violent society of the US, having experienced great humiliation for no reason - no wonder that he just wanted to try for every penny he could extract. Doing it to Hendrix though, a fellow black American doesn't seem to be a nice gesture.

 

Davis's biggest paradox was that whilst he had a strong grudge against whites, whites were the ones who supported him, appreciated his music the most. Perhaps he felt somewhat let down by his own natural blood-line? It's not fair on Hendrix anyway. 

 

    
Yes that's true.
One mont after Woodstock Hendrix had a gig (charity) in Harlem. First they stole his guitar, than 80% of the audience leave before him (only 500 stayed.
He was so disapointed that he finished his appirience with : f**k you and good night.
Miles and Hendrix was not very glad that most of their admires and audience was white.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 05:18
Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

^^^I haven't listened to any italian jazz-fusion but hope to do so in the near future


I'm not an expert in Italian jazz-fusion, but I often visit a very interesting website called "MovimentiProg" (www.movimentiprog.org), which hosts excellent reviews of bands otherwise quite unknown outside Italy. Speakers of Spanish should find it relatively easy to read these reviews and find out about new (and not so new) Italian jazz-fusion acts. In my visits to the site I've read about quite a few of them!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 05:51
Originally posted by pero pero wrote:

Originally posted by S Lang S Lang wrote:

Originally posted by pero pero wrote:

And very greedy man also.
 

Reading Hendrix biography, I could not noticed that he asked from Hendrix manager 100.000 $ (1969) just for his appearance on the gig.

 

Heroin must have been expensive even back then. The Dark Magus (Davis) is not a personal idol to me, but his contribution to music makes up for personal shortcomings. His recurring heroin use is openly declared in his biorgraphy. Born in that violent society of the US, having experienced great humiliation for no reason - no wonder that he just wanted to try for every penny he could extract. Doing it to Hendrix though, a fellow black American doesn't seem to be a nice gesture.

 

Davis's biggest paradox was that whilst he had a strong grudge against whites, whites were the ones who supported him, appreciated his music the most. Perhaps he felt somewhat let down by his own natural blood-line? It's not fair on Hendrix anyway. 

 

    
Yes that's true.
One month after Woodstock Hendrix had a gig (charity) in Harlem. First they stole his guitar, then 80% of the audience leave before him (only 500 stayed.
He was so disapointed that he finished his appearence with : f**k you and good night.
Miles and Hendrix was not very glad that most of their admirers and audience were white.
 
'Grudge' is probably the wrong word - why did Davis employ so many white musicians in his last 30 years? Why did Miles want the selling power and audiences that bought and attended the new fangled rock music of the late 60's (predominantly white)? Davis was a middle class black American , son of doctors, good education, who because of where his music took him, discovered the worst of racial prejudice. And read and understand the sociology of drug-taking and jazz, e.g. through the autobiography of Mez Mezrow in Really The Blues - - hard drugs when first taken by jazz artists were seen as doors of perception (to borrow author Audous Huxley's terminology), taking them to new compositional and musical heights. Maybe, until they became badly hooked, there was slight truth in this - but once hooked by the man, total f**k-up. At least some of the hard drug users escaped H or whatever. Booze and its addiction for example carried away Bix Beiderbeck at the end of the 20's.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 02:30
Doors of perception was fascination to Jim Morison also.
John Mclauglin was rare example how to be clean all the time, but he found his drug in religion (Sri Chimony).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 08:56
Originally posted by pero pero wrote:


John Mclauglin was rare example how to be clean all the time, but he found his drug in religion (Sri Chimony).
 
 
Not according to Paul Stump's Mclaughlin biography, Go Ahead John - happen to be reading it at the moment, along with Michael Palin's Diaries and Richard Dawkins God Delusion. McLaughlin indulged well in London during the 60's on what ever was going, eventually  discovering one form of the opiate of the people towards the end of that decade and presumably avoiding dodgy chemicals since.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 17:23
    Jazz Rock is one of my favorite genres, but I have a real obssesion with the Jazzier side of Cantebury Scene!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2007 at 05:43
Originally posted by polyrythmic polyrythmic wrote:

    Jazz Rock is one of my favorite genres, but I have a real obssesion with the Jazzier side of Cantebury Scene!
 
The best jazz historians will remind that Canterbury - particuarly though Soft Machine - were most influential on the European jazz rock scene, and this happening when jazz rock was just moving above ground in the States. Interesting to read in the Robert Wyatt biography that the American jazz scene were enthusiastic about the Softs too- apparently Miles Davis attended gigs, Ornette Coleman hosted parties for the band (and this before 1970) - I'm damned sure some of Chick Corea's earlier electric playing was influenced by Ratledge. On a  very intriguing (repro of a) postcard home,  Wyatt reports he sat in which Chicago (in Chicago).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 13:21
Anyone aware of this band, El Grupo? This is the album I got to listen to - http://www.amazon.com/Live-El-Grupo/dp/B000L6AYY0/sr=1-1/qid=1169835365/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0474926-0138366?ie=UTF8&s=music - they would make a great addition to the PA, IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 13:47

 Live

El Grupo,
 'Toto' spinoff with Steve Lukather on guitar & vocals.
"El Grupo's first Live record was released as a special limited edition digipack of 1,000 copies and is sold exclusively at El Grupo's European shows in November 2005 ≈ 50 pieces per show, one per person.

The album features 5 very extended tracks of classic rock and fusion tunes that allow all band members to stretch out and show their unique talent. The live recording captures all the fun and looseness on stage and makes the listener feel the great vibes of the shows. "

El Grupo:

Steve Lukather - Guitar & Vocals
Joey Heredia - Drums, Percussion & Chant
Steve Weingart - Keyboards
Oskar Cartaya - Bass

Tracklist:

1. Dismemberment (15:21)
Lenny Castro/David Garfield
2. I'm Buzzed (16:52)
Michael Landau
3. Birdland (9:45)
J. Zawinul
4. Little Wing (10:14)
Jimi Hendrix
5. Led Boots (13:28)
Max Middleton
 
I will  give it a listen!



Edited by Alucard - January 26 2007 at 13:58
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