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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 15:15 |
PROGMAN wrote:
That can be said for Metallica they are PROG Releated between 1984-1988 but just barely, but I cant comment on Stratovarius as I am not familiar with them. |
They have some really extensive samples on their website ... have a listen!
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Xeroth
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Posted: December 13 2006 at 20:13 |
I put yes, mostly cuase I've seen Styx, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, and
Led Zeppelin on this site. There are definately a good majority
songs that have progressive elements. Their latest, in my opinion
sold out, is not prog at all. But when looking at Inifinte,
Elements Part 1 and 2, Visions, and Episode, I'd have to say no more
than related. Good likage to Kamelot, Nightwish, and plenty of
other symphonic/power metal bands. Of all the symphonic/power
metal bands I've outside the ones on this sight however, Stratovarius
is the only one that comes close. I hope for all life Hammerfall
and Sonata Artica doens't apear on this sight.
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I once was cool, but now I'm cold. Can you please turn up the heat.
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Barla
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Posted: December 15 2006 at 20:29 |
I've listen to "Episode", and several songs from other albums and they're definitely not prog, they're Power Metal, sometimes as cheesy as hell.
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Tenken
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Posted: January 07 2007 at 11:16 |
Stratovarius = Power metal & Prog-Related (well just a Little, may be not ,but at least some songs have a little of prog)
Edited by Tenken - January 07 2007 at 11:58
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¡¡El Rocanrol no morirá jamás!!
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Philéas
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 11:34 |
NO!!!
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Easy Livin
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 11:44 |
Has the prog-metal team considered them Mike?
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Meddler
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 11:49 |
I love them, but I'm undecided. I certainly wouldn't mind.
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Cristi
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 12:00 |
Definitely NOT prog , but nevertheless a very good power metal band.
Edited by Cristi - January 08 2007 at 15:03
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 12:08 |
Sincerely Stratovarius is one of my favourite SPEED POWER (PROG) METAL BAND!!!
But not for PA and Prog World!!!
STRATOVARIUS "EPISODE": for me the masterpiece of Speed Power (Prog) Metal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited by MANDRAKEROOT - January 08 2007 at 12:12
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 12:10 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Has the prog-metal team considered them Mike? |
Yes - they were rejected unanimously. At first some of us (including myself) voted yes because they're as prog (or prog-related) as Nightwish, but then we decided that we would not take Nightwish as a point of reference, as we would not add Nightwish today if we had the choice (they were added long before genre teams were even considered).
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 12:17 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Easy Livin wrote:
Has the prog-metal team considered them Mike? |
Yes - they were rejected unanimously. At first some of us (including myself) voted yes because they're as prog (or prog-related) as Nightwish, but then we decided that we would not take Nightwish as a point of reference, as we would not add Nightwish today if we had the choice (they were added long before genre teams were even considered).
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NIGHTWISH is only a POWER SYMPHONIC METAL band!!!!!!
are (for me) the best albums!!!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 12:24 |
^ Agreed ... like Stratovarius they have quite a few progressive moments, but these moments are not what they're about or what makes them great.
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toolis
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 06:50 |
Stratovarius is a mix of Rainbow, Helloween and Yngwie Malmsteen and none of these influences of theirs justifies their inclusion...
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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JayDee
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 07:11 |
I used to ba a crusader for the inclusion of this band (together with Sonata Arctica). After having heard most of their albums, I say no, they do not belong in the Progressive Metal category. Some albums have their progressive tendencies ( "Infinite" comes into mind) but as Mike said and I quote: these moments are not what they're about or what makes them great.
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1800iareyay
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 11:30 |
Xeroth wrote:
I put yes, mostly cuase I've seen Styx, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, and
Led Zeppelin on this site.
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Styx is on this site?!
As much as I like Stratovarius, they are not prog enough for this site. Maiden influenced prog metal with Somewhere in Time and 7th Son, and their albums do have a lot of progressive elements for a power metal band. Purple is very much proto-prog because they are the pioneers of the neo-classical style, which is used extensively in prog metal and symphonic. Led Zeppelin quite frankly influenced everyone, and their pioneering experimentations with Eastern music secure them a place on this list. Stratovarius came after all this, they use the neo-classical guitars of Purple and (later) Maidenm but tehy are not prog
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Easy Livin
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 11:39 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Easy Livin wrote:
Has the prog-metal team considered them Mike? |
Yes - they were rejected unanimously. At first some of us (including myself) voted yes because they're as prog (or prog-related) as Nightwish, but then we decided that we would not take Nightwish as a point of reference, as we would not add Nightwish today if we had the choice (they were added long before genre teams were even considered).
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Cheers Mike,
Does the team have a view on them being added in the Prog related category?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 11:49 |
I agree with what Jody said about that a while ago: The PM team should only be concerned with prog bands, not prog-related. Personally I don't feel the need to add modern prog-related metal bands to the website, and neither do the other members (I think).
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 12:14 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I agree with what Jody said about that a while ago: The PM team should only be concerned with prog bands, not prog-related. Personally I don't feel the need to add modern prog-related metal bands to the website, and neither do the other members (I think).
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Its a yes from me!
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Stratavarius
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 23:10 |
radiohead isnt prog--------Stratovarios was like the founder for other bands that made more progressive stuff, so ADD THEM
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akin
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 10:48 |
For what I've heard no. Fine power metal, but no prog.
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