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Maybe I was a bit harsh but it just angers me when people with little or no talent insult people or things that they don't have a full understanding of or realize the amount of work that some people pour into their livelihoods. There is a lot of music here on the archives that aren't my cup of tea or I might find the lyrics to be poor.  But if other people do like these bands and there is obvious talent, I won't go bashing, especially if I don't know the whole scope of an artist.

Perhaps the term "stupid" was thrown out in haste.  But I would hope there would be a better way to get across your initial reticence to the concept than a word like that.

Fuzz wrote: Tony R wrote: johnobvious wrote: A few of you call the concept "Stupid."  Okay, super geniuses, post some of your lyrics and then I'll go ahead and read one of two and then dismiss you and your work out of hand.  What a joke.  When you can carry SW's jockstrap (to borrow a sports analogy) then I might give anything you ever have said in your life one second of my time. Cool it, they know not what they say....     Bless the poor little lambs. They havent read the lyrics yet and them calling the theme "stupid" has probably made Steven's day! I was merely saying that from the information that was given, the overall concept seems kind of stupid. I know that in the end it won't be, because it's being handled by SW, but if any other person did this, the outcome would probably be really stupid and shallow (not pun intended.) I have faith in SW, don't worry. I know that it's not always the concept, but rather, what you do with it that's important. He can make it work.

How about we simplify it for you?

Its about how today's youth cannot relate to anything unless it is presented as a simple soundbite, has visual representation like a music video or is contained in the context of a video game. It has to be flashy and trashy and avoid higher, more cerebral concepts for fear of being branded "stupid".

Tony R wrote: johnobvious wrote: A few of you call the concept "Stupid."  Okay, super geniuses, post some of your lyrics and then I'll go ahead and read one of two and then dismiss you and your work out of hand.  What a joke.  When you can carry SW's jockstrap (to borrow a sports analogy) then I might give anything you ever have said in your life one second of my time. Cool it, they know not what they say....     Bless the poor little lambs. They havent read the lyrics yet and them calling the theme "stupid" has probably made Steven's day!

I was merely saying that from the information that was given, the overall concept seems kind of stupid. I know that in the end it won't be, because it's being handled by SW, but if any other person did this, the outcome would probably be really stupid and shallow (not pun intended.) I have faith in SW, don't worry. I know that it's not always the concept, but rather, what you do with it that's important. He can make it work.

Detric wrote: Im looking for the first press of The Sky Moves Sideways if anybody knows where I can buy it please let me know, ive even tried Ebay. Im not talking about the digipack re-issue, im talking about the regular jewel case version with the track Moonloop on it. This one:   1. The sky moves sideways phase one (18:37) 2. Dislocated day (5:24) 3. The moon touches your shoulder (5:40) 4. Prepare yourself (1:54) 5. Moonloop (17:04) 6. The sky moves sideways phase two (16:46)   Thanks alot.

    
Why bother when you can buy the new version (the Digipack re-issue) and just reburn the tracks to be the following:

1. The Sky Moves Sideways Phase One
2. Dislocated Day
3. Moonloop (Improvisation)
4. Moonloop (Coda)
5. The Moon Touches Your Shoulder
6. Prepare Yourself
7. The Sky Moves Sideways Phase Two

It includes the longest version of Moonloop recorded and it all fits onto one Disc, at almost 75 minutes. The only reason the re-issue is two discs is because it includes the full 34-minute version of The Sky Moves Sideways.

Anyways, great album TSMS, and I'm really looking forward to FOABP! I can't wait for it, and it's shaping up to be a great album, with awesome lyrics and themes!

-Marc.
    

Edited by The Letter M - January 07 2007 at 22:20

Im looking for the first press of The Sky Moves Sideways if anybody knows where I can buy it please let me know, ive even tried Ebay. Im not talking about the digipack re-issue, im talking about the regular jewel case version with the track Moonloop on it. This one:

A few of you call the concept "Stupid."  Okay, super geniuses, post some of your lyrics and then I'll go ahead and read one of two and then dismiss you and your work out of hand.  What a joke.  When you can carry SW's jockstrap (to borrow a sports analogy) then I might give anything you ever have said in your life one second of my time.

The Xbox is my friend. My...only...friend...

Not quite.

You want to know something ironic, though? When I first bought my Xbox360, it came with about 20 songs by various bands on the hard drive, one of which was "Shallow" by PT.

Sweet, sweet irony.

I would have put Arriving Somewhere But Not Here on it, but oh well. Surely gave PT a somewhat wider audience.

Yay!

Fight Club wrote: Can't wait for it!!! When I saw them play the new material live it was quite impressive, I don't think it will disappoint! I just hope it doesn't leak because it will be very hard to avoid temptation...

    
Yeah Deadwing leaked but I managed to be a good boy and resisted temptation. What gets me is that it can only be someone associated with the record company who is leaking these albums onto the internet.

Which reminds me, I am presuming that when we buy from "Burning Shed" more of the money gets back to the band.
http://www.burningshed.co.uk/ptshop.asp