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progismylife
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Topic: So my bass playing... Posted: December 08 2006 at 12:12 |
Can anyone out there help me with my bass playing? I find myself making up stuff that sounds like crap. Any suggestions on what to focus on like scales or anything would be much appreciated.
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blazno
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Posted: December 08 2006 at 12:17 |
Try here http://www.bassmasta.net/b/bass_lessons/ I'm almost as good as Levin , but seriously it halped me a lot.
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jalas
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Posted: December 08 2006 at 12:23 |
I am not a bassist, but I can recommend aiming low at first and learning from Roger Waters who was able to write music with so much emotion. Try to leave spaces and complicate the patterns a bit. Also, have more confidence in your music. Sometimes, it's the arranging that makes the difference.
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progismylife
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Posted: December 08 2006 at 12:29 |
^^ Have you ever heard Pink Floyd basslines? Some of those are pretty tough.
Edited by progismylife - December 08 2006 at 12:29
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darren
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 07:39 |
Just keep practicing. It all comes eventually.
I'm pretty much in the same situation.
Edited by darren - December 09 2006 at 07:40
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Xeroth
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Posted: December 13 2006 at 20:33 |
Yay, I suck too! Makes me feel good I'm not the only one....
Recently I spent an hour just getting one short riff down from Rush....
still, you don't want to hear it. Though the songs I've made up,
I'm kind of proud of. You just have to play around and excert
your abilities alittle bit. I've also like taking piano songs
from early learning stages and playing those too. Try playing
marry had a little lamb! That's a fun one! One suggestion
too, try to avoid tabs from tabs sight. Those things are stupid
in my opinion, hence my slaughtering of Rush. Poor Rush, I hope
they never hear my futile attempts to play thier material. But
just start simple and slowly move on, you have to challenge your self
with something harder. If you don't mind metal, Queensryche has
some tight stuff, but also a little more simple in some places, just do
something that's challenging but not impossible.
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I once was cool, but now I'm cold. Can you please turn up the heat.
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sleeper
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Posted: December 13 2006 at 20:52 |
Learn your scales and see what notes work together for a certain mood and in what wayyou play it. Experiment is the best option IMO.
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Sasquamo
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Posted: December 18 2006 at 22:46 |
Learn as much music theory as you can.
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EssentialFaris
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Posted: December 21 2006 at 13:40 |
scales are good but i think you should focus on whats going on with the other instruments,also focus on hiting notes in the key rather then a specific scale.
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: December 21 2006 at 14:17 |
Listen to those fabulous RUSH albums, and play over them with your bass!
I used to find lots of their tabs from the OLGA website which is now down, but I found these from the goolge:
(some of them are probably crap)
In time you find cool sounding patterns on the neck which you can start to improvise and develop further with your own imagination!
Edited by Eetu Pellonpää - December 21 2006 at 14:18
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progismylife
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Posted: December 21 2006 at 14:18 |
^^I would do that but their is a possibility that tabs might not be legal so some of the sites stopped posting tabs.
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Barla
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Posted: December 21 2006 at 16:43 |
First of all, do you go to a proffesor? I play bass, and what I did is first learn the arpeggios, scales and positions on all the bass. I remember I started with simple blues and improvisation on it, then rock in general, hard rock, metal, etc. Then the modes, some theory (don't know if that's the right spelling in English), and lots and lots of improvisation ... Actually I'm improvising on complex harmonies to improve my skills (recommended with jazz rock, that has helped me A LOT!) and I'm starting with some exercises to increase speed. Also, if you have a good professor that may help a lot.
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progismylife
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Posted: December 21 2006 at 16:45 |
Barla wrote:
First of all, do you go to a proffesor?I play bass, and what I did is first learn the arpeggios, scales and positions on all the bass. I remember I started with simple blues and improvisation on it, then rock in general, hard rock, metal, etc. Then the modes, some theory (don't know if that's the right spelling in English), and lots and lots of improvisation ... Actually I'm improvising on complex harmonies to improve my skills (recommended with jazz rock, that has helped me A LOT!) and I'm starting with some exercises to increase speed. Also, if you have a good professor that may help a lot.
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Thanks, that is really helpful. And you did spell theory right.
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GabbleRatchet
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Posted: January 02 2007 at 01:59 |
If I were you, I'd get a bass guitar teacher, as you're obviously having lots of problems trying this on your own.
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progismylife
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Posted: January 02 2007 at 09:32 |
^^ I will look for one but I don't know if I am able to get bass guitar lessons and piano lessons at the same time. It might get a bit confusing.
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Passionist
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Posted: January 05 2007 at 20:47 |
sleeper wrote:
Learn your scales and see what notes work together for a certain mood and in what wayyou play it. Experiment is the best option IMO.
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And ignore most of the rest. Then if you want me to like you, bass is not just for rythm, it's a marvellous instrument that should be swinging in the background. So try forming patterns and music, not just one note on the 1st hit.
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OpethGuitarist
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Posted: January 05 2007 at 20:53 |
progismylife wrote:
Can anyone out there help me with my bass playing? I find myself making up stuff that sounds like crap. Any suggestions on what to focus on like scales or anything would be much appreciated. |
All it really takes is desire and discipline. Teachers help but can be expensive. I've found that if you work hard enough you can learn almost anything. Best example of that philosophy at work is me. I've never had a guitar teacher, but I've taught myself how to play guitar and some rudimentary bass. Now I'm learning some of the most technical material available (on guitar) and I've only been playing for 4 years. Hard work can take you lot's of places. There will be bumps in the road, but you just keep pushing yourself and anything is achievable.
Edited by OpethGuitarist - January 05 2007 at 20:53
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back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums
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progismylife
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Posted: January 05 2007 at 20:54 |
Thanks for the suggestions and wonderful help. It has been steadily improving since I posted this topic.
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Stars Die
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Posted: February 08 2007 at 19:34 |
Just keep making crap, eventually something is going to turn out well
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rileydog22
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Posted: February 08 2007 at 20:27 |
What I've been doing is that every couple of days during our free time at school me and a friend or two will go to the music room and jam 12-bar blues. In a little over a month, I'm really learning what rhythmic and melodic patterns sound good.
There's no better way to improve than to play with other musicians. Especially superior musicians; you'll have to improve to keep up.
Edited by rileydog22 - February 08 2007 at 20:27
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