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Posted: December 30 2006 at 19:27

Man, now my wishlist is growing while my money is getting smaller. Cry

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Posted: December 30 2006 at 19:29

A lot of my favourite dark music ends up in the art rock category, including the obvious VDGG and Krimson, but also bands like Xaal, Fusioon and Bubu (I think, I haven't checked recently.) I suspect that Bronzo and Semiramis would also end up in art rock if they weren't italian..

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Posted: December 30 2006 at 19:30

So many bands, so little money. Unhappy

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Posted: December 30 2006 at 22:03

progismylife wrote:

So many bands, so little money. Unhappy

I know how you feel

Yes it is!!

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 04:30

The Whistler wrote:

Wait, Mars Volta and Gentle Giant are in the same catagory? Is that possible?

Thta'swhat I'm talking about when proposing an introduction of brand new genre - MODERN PROG!!!

It would free Art-Rock from loads of modern bands!

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 04:57

Art Rock is the genre that is most fought over here on PA. No surprise here cause so many different bands are in that genre. The obvious like GG, KC. Rush and VDGG. Just stroll around the genre and delve into bands like The Tangent, Tiles, Uriah Heep, Pavlov's Dog, Yezda Urfa, Gnidrolog, Areknames, Nemo and Adrian Belew just to name a few.

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 05:17

Prog-jester wrote:

The Whistler wrote:

Wait, Mars Volta and Gentle Giant are in the same catagory? Is that possible?

Thta'swhat I'm talking about when proposing an introduction of brand new genre - MODERN PROG!!!

It would free Art-Rock from loads of modern bands!

But what if those modern bands already fit into a category? Then that would be a totally useless genre.

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 05:20

I think all genres have their history of vintage to contemporary, clasic to strangely reformating, no? Examples are many.

The idea of Gentle Giant being classic and 70s prog fit, while the Mars Volta have (I don't know how they sound, but can only anticipated) the modern shape and the rush for phenomenons is less important than the fact that Art Rock, like all genres, can comprise different aspects (most especially Art Rock since it is named as a genre of different kinds).

The idea of mixing all styles and periods by a common expectancy is, naturally, weird, nonetheless it's a sure deal.

A genre of Modern Prog is certainly something exclusivist, which none of the current "genre" practiced.

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 12:34

progismylife wrote:

I liked all of them. Would it be a good idea to start with their first album and continue on from there? For GG that is.

I like the first... a great debut actually. The nice thing about GG.. pick any of their first...err.... any of their prog albums (with possible exception of Interview) and you really can't go wrong. For what it's worth Three Friends is my favorite, and usually recommend Octopus to start.

Edited by micky - December 31 2006 at 12:34

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 12:40

Cool.

Once I have money I will buy some.
But it will take ages to get money. Cry

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 12:43

progismylife wrote:

Cool. Thumbs Up

Once I have money I will buy some.
But it will take ages to get money. Cry

hahahha.. you ain't kiddin'

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 12:45

Unfortunately no I am not kidding.

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 12:47

GoldenSpiral wrote:

Well... Rush is good, but I think King Crimson is in another league altogether. Clap

A...defentiyl!!! Clap

Art rock is the best category now, cause they moved pretty much all my favorite bands in that genre Confused

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 12:48

Gentle gaint makes the genre worthwhile

Yes it is!!

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 15:33

progismylife wrote:

To start this discussion I will concentrate mostly on how great of a band Rush is. I mean their albums are amazing! (mostly) I thoroughly enjoy Hemispheres, 2112, and A Farewell To Kings. But I do not enjoy Permenant Waves or Moving Pictures that much.

I agree. I love the late 70's (also earlier) Rush Albums, they're at the top of my list. I don't get the hype over Moving Pictures, it seems like just a good semi-progressive stadium rock album. The songs on the first side are WAY over-played on classic rock radio. Whenever they play Rush, it's always Tom Sawyer, Limelight, Red Barchetta and occasionally the Spirit of Radio.

I like Permanent waves and Signals, as well as later 80's material (just a little, though). I think on Permanent Waves they still had prog influence especially in the lyrics, but by Moving Pictures a great amount of that influence was gone.

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 15:54

I love the "Art Rock" genre, though it's the vaguest genre there is....I like to think of "mostly dark prog with symphonic leanings on occasion"

bands I love-

Rush
King Crimson
The Mars Volta
Radiohead (please don't bring up the 'they're not prog' debate there here get over it)
Van der Graaf Generator
bands I like-
dredg
Gentle Giant (I probably need more by them)

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 15:58

freekske wrote:

Gentle gaint makes the genre worthwhile

Indeed

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 16:11

For some reason I've just never been able to get into Rush.

I LOVE YYZ. It's a great song, and I can't get enough of it.

But when I bought 2112, ehhh. I really don;t enjoy it.

Also stuff like Tom Sawyer and other commercial stuff really doesn't appeal to me very much.

Is there hope for me? where should I keep trying.

I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 16:14

BePinkTheater wrote:

For some reason I've just never been able to get into Rush.

I LOVE YYZ. It's a great song, and I can't get enough of it.

But when I bought 2112, ehhh. I really don;t enjoy it.

Also stuff like Tom Sawyer and other commercial stuff really doesn't appeal to me very much.

Is there hope for me? where should I keep trying.

try Hemispheres, it has a better/more progressive sound than 2112 (at least the other nontitle tracks) and it doesn't have the commercialness of Moving Pictures/Permanent Waves....their second best album IMO Big smile

its a 4 track album, the title track being 20 min, the next 2 being somewhat normal tracks (though The Trees is great) and La Villa Strangiato is possibly their best instrumental, clocking in at 10 min

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Posted: December 31 2006 at 16:31

oh yea..I've heard the Trees. THat's a good song too.

Maybe I'll check that one out.

thanks.

I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard