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Snow Dog 
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 Topic: Christ OPosted: December 30 2006 at 10:37 |
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Vanden Plas album Chrit O has a wrong timing.
VANDEN PLASChrist.0(Studio Album, 2006) Title information (Edit) | MP3 | Reviews | Buy Music
4.21Excellent addition to any prog music collection  2. Postcard To God (6:19) 3. Wish You Were Here (9:16) 4. Silently (8:33) 5. Shadow I Am (5:30), 6. Fireroses Dance (6:05) 7. Somewhere Alone In The Dark (5:32) 8. January Sun (10:07) 9. Lost In Silence (4:21) 10. Gethsemane [Bonus Track](6:18) Track 2 is Wish you Where Here and its time is 22 mins 16 s http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=11385 Edited by Snow Dog - December 30 2006 at 10:39 |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 30 2006 at 10:40 |
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In fact, looking again, all the track times are wrong.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 30 2006 at 10:44 |
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1. Christ 0 (11:23)
2. Postcard To God (5:55) 3. Wish You Where Here (22:16) 4. Silently (13:43) 5. Shadow I Am (6:07), 6. Fireroses Dance (9:28) 7. Somewhere Alone In The Dark (17:14) 8. January Sun (12:50) 9. Lost In Silence (5:14) 10. Gethsemane [Bonus Track](10:10) This is what I have, but its too long. Don't change anything yet! Can't find any info. Does anyone know if there are 2 versions?  Edited by Snow Dog - December 30 2006 at 10:52 |
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Fitzcarraldo
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Posted: December 30 2006 at 14:09 |
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Snow Dog,
According to the group's official Web site, the title of Track 3 is 'Wish You Were Here', which is what is currently on the album's page in the Archives. VANDEN PLAS - "Christ 0" |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 30 2006 at 14:38 |
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1800iareyay
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Posted: December 30 2006 at 14:50 |
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My copy fits with the PA times. Do you have a live album/bootleg?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 30 2006 at 18:27 |
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Not live for certain, other than that I don't know.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 01 2007 at 07:40 |
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Joolz
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Posted: January 01 2007 at 08:15 |
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There is no denying the "where" on that album cover but I believe it is an error, perhaps caused by imperfect knowledge of the English language .... here is an excerpt from the song's lyrics [on www.lyricsandsongs.com] ....
"I wish you where here I wish you well and that you're burning Here in hell instead of me" The context is clearly "wish you were here" otherwise it makes no sense. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 01 2007 at 08:18 |
I tagged the songs on Musicbrainz tagger, and it says that the band was asked for the correct spellin, and it was confirmed as "where". Also in the Vanden plas forum all the fans refer to it as where. It actually says "Wish You Where Here is not a typo (confirmed by band)" Edited by Snow Dog - January 01 2007 at 08:24 |
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Joolz
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Posted: January 01 2007 at 08:27 |
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OK, if that's what they want, then that's what they'll have .... done
Do you know what is meant by it? |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 01 2007 at 08:37 |
No idea!  |
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Fitzcarraldo
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Posted: January 01 2007 at 21:12 |
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Very bizarre though, because the Web site of their record label INSIDEOUT shows the track name as 'Wish You Were Here':
Track listing on INSIDEOUT Web site and so does the track listing on the group's own official Web site: VANDEN PLAS Web site Seems more like a cock-up by the person who typeset the CD cover. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 02 2007 at 06:30 |
Ok, so have it your way if my proofs aren't enough. |
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Joolz
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Posted: January 02 2007 at 08:48 |
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Nope ... we're having it YOUR way SD .... it's already changed
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 02 2007 at 09:56 |
No I insist, I don't have absolute proof besides the Musicbrainz tag thing.  |
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Fitzcarraldo
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Posted: January 02 2007 at 16:33 |
Don't be so hasty, Snow Dog! As the various references contradict each other, I've sent an e-mail to the band asking them for clarification. Let's see what they say (if they reply, that is!). (I'm curious, that's all.) |
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Fitzcarraldo
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 09:41 |
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Especially for Snow Dog
 Today I received a reply from Günter Werno, the keyboard player from VANDEN PLAS. Here it is:
"Hi Fitzcarraldo,
the correct writing is: Wish you where here. This means that Christ0 wishes someone else in his desperate situation and place and at the same time he does not really know where he is. So he is asking where am I exactly.Thanks for letting us know that the writings on the album and websites are different, we will inform the webmasters asap.
Best regards, Günter Werno, Vanden Plas"
So there you have it. The band has titled the third track of "Christ 0" 'Wish You Where Here'.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 10:13 |
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Thanks Fitz!
 I hope it was all worth the effort.  |
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Joolz
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 10:40 |
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A happy ending ....
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