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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:24
So what you're saying is that anyone can freely rip-off our well-written reviews and we cannot do a damn thing about it Iván?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:42
Originally posted by Tristan Mulders Tristan Mulders wrote:

So what you're saying is that anyone can freely rip-off our well-written reviews and we cannot do a damn thing about it Iván?
 
Of course you can but it's not so easy being that:
 
  1. The reviews are not copyrighted, even when this could be assumed.
  2. Prog Archives can't sue anybody because the guidelines clearly state that the reviewer is owner of the review.
  3. The legal costs in USA or Canada would be so high that hardly could be afforded.
  4. If you win, the site will simply vanish and the guy will change user.
  5. If you're not the RIAA it's very unlikely you will get a subpoena ordering the IUnternet provider to disclose the information about the user.
  6. Even if you get it, he probably got that nick and web account in an Internet Cafe using a public server that requires no ID.

Simple as that.

Now, I'm not expert in Canadian law, but maybe Prog Archives could force the site to delete the reviews, but again this ghas a cost.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:45
Originally posted by Fitzcarraldo Fitzcarraldo wrote:

The Miracle wrote: "I think you should email them(not the plagiarizing author but the site admins)"

Yes, I tried, but e-mails to the site Admins have been disabled and the only way to contact them would be to register as a user, which I do not want to do if at all possible.

What really annoys me is that this ZoolanderHotept guy has written "Fitzcarraldo aka ZoolanderHotept" as if he and I are one and the same person. He's also submitted reviews of albums that I have not reviewed. Perhaps he copied those reviews from other people too. In any case, I don't want people thinking the other reviews were written by me.

Believe me, I don't feel flattered at all. What a lowlife. The guy is just a lazy cheat.



I have registered and posted a complaint on the site.

http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13903564&posted=1#post13903564
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:48
^Yes, Tony. See the seventh post on the first page in this thread for a copy of my e-mail to the Admins of that site. I've also sent the details to M@X and requested him to e-mail them too, but it's up to him whether he does or not.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the punk also ripped off a review by salmacis. I have not checked the rest of this ZoolanderHotept kid's reviews but notice that he has one or two by RUSH too, so perhaps he plagiarised them from Prog Archives too.

The punk even had the gall to pass himself off as me ("Fitzcarraldo aka Zoolanderhotept") on the other site. What a little twerp.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:50
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I have registered and posted a complaint on the site.

http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13903564&posted=1#post13903564
    


i think you should correct the email you provided - shouldn't the ending be @gmail.com instead of @googlemail.com?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:52
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:


Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I have registered and posted a complaint on the site.

http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13903564&posted=1#post13903564
    
i think you should correct the email you provided - shouldn't the ending be @gmail.com instead of @googlemail.com?



No, the address is correct:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:53
Tony, I've just read your post about your registering on the site and complaining. Thanks, I appreciate it.

Some may think I'm making a fuss about nothing, but this kid -- and anyone else who plagiarises other people's reviews (or any other work, for that matter) -- should be made aware that it's unethical and that they should not do it.

If I (we) don't complain then such people will just go on plagiarising, ie. stealing, other people's work.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:54
Fitz, it seems that Brain Salad Surgery review is no longer there, so I presume the admins have deleted them?

I hope that is the case, as plagiarism is something I'd hate to happen to me.  Luckily I've only written three reviews here, so I believe nobody has plagiarised me.

My Astrid Proll review was used elsewhere (well, a shortened version), but that was by the bass player of the band and he referenced my name and PR anyhow, so I'm happy.

EDIT: it seems the the other reviews are still up though.  I hope this mess gets sorted out.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:56
Wow, that was quick,the review was there 10 minutes ago!

The moderator Morrissey has posted this:


Thanks for reporting this. Deleted that review and banned him. Fitzcarrlo posted that he Zoolanderhotep plagiarised 11 other reviews of his, could you get him to identify these with links to his own work so I can verify and delete? Thanks, and sorry about this.
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Edited by Tony R - December 28 2006 at 13:58
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:01
OK, I'll do it. Perhaps the moderator has not read the e-mail I sent earlier to the Website's Admins.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:10
Tony,

Although I registered before you, the site won't let me post in the forums. I get the following message:

Fitzcarraldo, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:11
I've looked through a couple of his Rush reviews and cannot see any obvious similarities with reviews on PA, but I've not looked closely.  Does anyone wish to look more closely, just in case?

All the Fitzcarraldo plagiarised reviews have now been removed and the user has been banned.  Good news! Clap


Edited by Geck0 - December 28 2006 at 14:17
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:13
Originally posted by Fitzcarraldo Fitzcarraldo wrote:

Tony,

Although I registered before you, the site won't let me post in the forums. I get the following message:

Fitzcarraldo, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

    Have you validated your membership by following the link from the email they sent you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:15
I did that many hours ago, and tried it several times, but I get the error message "That is not a valid activation code".


EDIT: But yet the site lets me log in, post comments on the review pages, and shows me as Logged In, and even let me upload my avatar.


    

Edited by Fitzcarraldo - December 28 2006 at 14:19
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:17
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

I've looked through a couple of his Rush reviews and cannot see any obsious similarities with reviews on PA, but I've not looked closely.  Does anyone wish to look more closely, just in case?All the Fitzcarraldo plagiarised reviews have now been removed and the user has been banned.  Good news!

    
Where are his Rush reviews? I want to make sure none of mine are plagerised.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:19
I doubt they're yours, they were written in September.

Here's the link to his reviews list though:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:21
Originally posted by Fitzcarraldo Fitzcarraldo wrote:

I did that many hours ago, and tried it several times, but I get the error message "That is not a valid activation code".


EDIT: But yet the site lets me log in, post comments on the review pages, and shows me as Logged In, and even let me upload my avatar.


    


Morrisey has deleted 18 reviews, I guess that will be the lot.

Great work with the link Geck0.


Hopefully case closed...
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:22
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

I doubt they're yours, they were written in September.Here's the link to his reviews list though:Link

    
Well if they were written in September then never mind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:24
Just out of interest, how can you tell if someone has plagerised your reviews on this site?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:25
I suppose the best thing we could do is to call out the offender on the site in question. If you see this happen, post the links to your original reviews. A little public humiliation could go a long way.
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