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Points: 3830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:57
Oh, only 13? My bad.

Come back to the album in a few years... it might just be a sleeper for you.
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I'm not 13, I'm 17.
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Points: 3830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:00
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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:00
I just saw the 1 star review of Paradox Hotel- I don't get it- its an amazing CD



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Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I just saw the 1 star review of Paradox Hotel- I don't get it- its an amazing CD


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I believe my honesty is being questioned. Not only do you think that I only listened to the album once, but the false notion that I'm 13 years old is now being accepted. Angry
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Points: 21206 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:01
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

How is my rating 'objectively wrong'?



Because there are obviously many albums that are worse than Paradox Hotel. Maybe "wrong" is the wrong word, "inconsistent" might be better.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you ... Embarrassed
That's just your opinion that there are many album worse than Paradox Hotel. Big smile


I guess Woody Allen was right when he said that "Objectivity is subjective".LOL
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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:02
Just did Ansen.



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Points: 3830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:03
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I believe my honesty is being questioned. Not only do you think that I only listened to the album once, but the false notion that I'm 13 years old is now being accepted. [IMG]height=17 alt=Angry src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    
I simply trust The Miracle's opinion over yours; my perception of your words has been objectively affected by your review.
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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:04
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I believe my honesty is being questioned. Not only do you think that I only listened to the album once, but the false notion that I'm 13 years old is now being accepted. [IMG]height=17 alt=Angry src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    
I simply trust The Miracle's opinion over yours; my perception of your words has been objectively affected by your review.
My age is not a matter of opinion. And my rating/review is not a matter of fact.
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I have to admit I agree entirely with The Wizard review. Most recent Flower Kings album shows again, unsurprisingly, a completely unoriginal sound. Beyond that, it lacks all the feeling that usually characterized classics. Though untertaining, it is completely trivial. It's albuns like this that are killing prog. Should progressive don't be really progressive, as the word says ?
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I don't understand how any open-minded fan of Progressive Rock can give Paradox Hotel a 1 star.  It's fairly accessible prog music with no blatant plagiarism.  I can't even think of one prog album I'd give that to (except maybe Ummagumma, but the Live album makes up for the horrible studio album).  And I doubt you listened to it 10 times; if someone thinks an album is THAT BAD, they probably won't listen to it more than 3 times, if that.
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You think that people don't like this album because they are not open-minded? That's precisely the opposite lol Open mindness is necessary for completely different albuns, not albuns that try and fails to make odes to 70's classics.
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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:10
Originally posted by TRoTZ TRoTZ wrote:

It's albuns like this that are killing prog.
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Originally posted by TRoTZ TRoTZ wrote:

Should progressive don't be really progressive, as the word says ?
 
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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:11
How many times must I say that I did not bash the album because it was too accessible or plagarised the classics.
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Points: 35 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:13

Stonebeard, What I wanted to say was "shouldn't progressive be really progressive, as the word says?"
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Points: 3830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:14
Some of you guys are ridiculous.
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Points: 8890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:15
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

How many times must I say that I did not bash the album because it was too accessible or plagarised the classics.

The review definitely sounded like you thought it was plagairised and had some bias against it because of that.  And you like Wolfmother, there is no way TFK plagairise as much as them. LOLLOL
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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:15

How so? Because we have our own opinions?

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Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

I don't understand how any open-minded fan of Progressive Rock can give Paradox Hotel a 1 star.  It's fairly accessible prog music with no blatant plagiarism.  I can't even think of one prog album I'd give that to (except maybe Ummagumma, but the Live album makes up for the horrible studio album).  And I doubt you listened to it 10 times; if someone thinks an album is THAT BAD, they probably won't listen to it more than 3 times, if that.


If you're giving Ummagumma 1 star, you should also be giving one star to half of all avant prog and kraut in existence, which isn't that open mindedWink

Personally it's my favorite PF album.
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