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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2006 at 04:07
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

..but you might get the RSPCA onto you
 

 

btw originality and musical brilliance are not mutually exclusive.

Lets say you have one peice of music that is brilliantly played but derivative of Yes and another which is original and also briliantly played.What would you choose? I've already got all the classic Yes releases.I now want something different thanks.Originality does count IMO.


I agree. In fact, originality is underated these days. Sometimes it's all we have.
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2006 at 05:11
I recall being unable to get into The Flower Kings because of Stolt's voice. I found it to be nasally and derivative of David Bowie. Due to the prodding of a friend of mine, I invested in my first Flower Kings disc (The Rainmaker). I liked it, and slowly started to buy discs that I would find at my local store or Half.com. Well, what do ya know? About 3 years later I ended up buying all of their stuff, I've actually come to appreciate Stolt's voice, and TFK's have become one of my favorite bands.

For me, they took a bit, but they caught on. That's happened with bands like Riverside and King Crimson (although, I find their appeal to be waivering just a bit).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2006 at 16:49
Deadi don't know why I don't like them but having given them a chance, I just don't!
 
Ironically, I think that the F.K. members in The Tangent make a very positive contribution.
 
Perhaps it's Roine Stolt I don't like because The Tangent definitely sound infinitely better now he's gone.
 
However, Flower Kings is still better than most of the drivel on TV and mainstream radio.Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:20
Read my review of Paradox Hotel and tell me what you all think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:23
That wasn't fair IMO, it's an excellent 4 star album of very intelligently composed music. It might not be that original, but it's very enjoyable quality symphonic prog. If it was made in 73, you'd all be raving about how amazing it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:26
No, I wouldn't be. I specifically said the problem is not that it sounds like 70's prog. It's the very music itself that is poor.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:31
Whatever, to me it sounds great.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:36
Lack of marillion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:37
Or kitty cats.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:38
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Read my review of Paradox Hotel and tell me what you all think.

    
That was completely uncalled for. The only one-star review you've ever written, and you've not written any two-stars, either. Your review is trolling, and you should be suitably reprimanded.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:48
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Read my review of Paradox Hotel and tell me what you all think.

    
That was completely uncalled for. The only one-star review you've ever written, and you've not written any two-stars, either. Your review is trolling, and you should be suitably reprimanded.
How is it trolling? I wrote 5 paragraphs to back up my rating.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:48
I really don't like ratings like that one ... they are objectively wrong. Unfortunately there's nothing we can do about them ... so I think it's best to ignore them.

On my website I developed a smart way to handle them ... their impact on the average is dampened as long as they're only a very small minority.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:49

How is my rating 'objectively wrong'?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:49
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Read my review of Paradox Hotel and tell me what you all think.
      That was completely uncalled for. The only one-star review you've ever written, and you've not written any two-stars, either. Your review is trolling, and you should be suitably reprimanded.

How is it trolling? I wrote 5 paragraphs to back up my rating.

    
5 baseless paragraphs. Just how many times did you listen to this album? Your review doesn't show any knowledge of the music, it sounds like a biased review based on a single listen, with an opinion formed before you started.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:52
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Read my review of Paradox Hotel and tell me what you all think.
      That was completely uncalled for. The only one-star review you've ever written, and you've not written any two-stars, either. Your review is trolling, and you should be suitably reprimanded.

How is it trolling? I wrote 5 paragraphs to back up my rating.

    
5 baseless paragraphs. Just how many times did you listen to this album? Your review doesn't show any knowledge of the music, it sounds like a biased review based on a single listen, with an opinion formed before you started.
I've listened to the album about 10 times, all the way the through from beggining to end. I have plenty of knowledge on the music. I hadn't formed an opinion before I started, AS I EXPLICITLY STATED IN MY REVIEW.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:54
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I've listened to the album about 10 times, all the way the through from beggining to end. I have plenty of knowledge on the music. I hadn't formed an opinion before I started, AS I EXPLICITLY STATED IN MY REVIEW.


I don't know if I believe you. There is no way this album warrants one star. You sir, are objectively wrong.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:54
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

How is my rating 'objectively wrong'?



Because there are obviously many albums that are worse than Paradox Hotel. Maybe "wrong" is the wrong word, "inconsistent" might be better.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you ... Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:55
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I've listened to the album about 10 times, all the way the through from beggining to end. I have plenty of knowledge on the music. I hadn't formed an opinion before I started, AS I EXPLICITLY STATED IN MY REVIEW.


I don't know if I believe you. There is no way this album warrants one star. You sir, are objectively wrong.
Why? Because my review goes against popular opinion? Am I not allowed to express an opinion on an album on this site, even if I can back it up?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:56
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I've listened to the album about 10 times, all the way the through from beggining to end. I have plenty of knowledge on the music. I hadn't formed an opinion before I started, AS I EXPLICITLY STATED IN MY REVIEW.


I don't know if I believe you. There is no way this album warrants one star. You sir, are objectively wrong.


Cut the kid some slack, he's only 13!WinkHug
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:56
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

How is my rating 'objectively wrong'?



Because there are obviously many albums that are worse than Paradox Hotel. Maybe "wrong" is the wrong word, "inconsistent" might be better.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you ... Embarrassed
That's just your opinion that there are many album worse than Paradox Hotel. Big smile
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