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Tuzvihar 
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Posted: December 17 2006 at 12:09 |
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I was listening to The Soft Parade one day (on vinyl) and I thought to myself that it was probably their proggiest album. Strangely enough it's also the album that's considered by many as their weakest (the popiest?) one what's completely incomprehensible for me. What's your opinion? I must add that I don't know Strange Days and the albums without Jim, though.
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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Posted: December 17 2006 at 12:32 |
"IMO "Strange Days" is their most Prog album with Morrison.
"Other Voices" and "Full Circle" are inlfuenced by different styles, including some Jazz-Rock in songs like "Ships w/ Sails", "Verdilac" and "The Piano Bird".
"The Soft Parade" was criticized due to the addition of brass arrangements which sounded very "commercial" for some people.
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The T
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Posted: December 17 2006 at 13:15 |
All of them have at least a few prog elements.... I'd say The Doors' overall sound has prog elements, with the jazz-oriented drumming of John Densmore, the classical trained keyboard man Raymond Daniel Manzarek, the bluesy guitars of Robbie Krieger.... and also the brilliant, arrogant, "pretentious" (to use a word that's in its prime around here) and psychaldelic lyrics and baritone-singing of James Douglas Morrison. If we take one album, it has to be either Strange Days or The Soft Parade.... The soft parade was more like The Doors' attempt to write their Sgt. Pepper, and it failed because Krieger had too much to do in the writing not only of the music but of the lyrics (try Touch Me, funny song but ultimately it sucks)... The exaggerated use of brass ruins some songs, but The Soft Parade is a very interesting track; Strange Days have masterpiece When the music's over, the title track, my wild love, love street.... it's an amazing album, only surpassed by The Doors, the original masterpiece. L.A. Woman is too american-rock oriented, but it has wonderful bohemian sounding track Riding on the Storm, plus excellent LA America, WASP (Texas RAdio and the big beat).... Morrison Hotel doesn't shine for me, it's my least favorite. And Waiting for the sun is very good, but should they have included the entire Celebration of the Lizard it would've been greater, instead of just Not to Touch the EArth.
So Strange Days for me.
I wouldn't include here the weak attempts by the remaining band members to keep alive something that was DEAD. Because, without Morrison, The Doors was RIP. I don't care if the music was still decent, it was NOT THE DOORS.
There's no Doors without the Lizard King.
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Posted: December 17 2006 at 13:22 |
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L.A. Woman
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Posted: December 17 2006 at 14:35 |
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What do you think about "An American Prayer"?
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Posted: December 17 2006 at 15:59 |
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Strange Days.
Waiting for the sun only has Love Street that I like.
L.A. Woman is nice, but not terribly prog.
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Posted: December 17 2006 at 16:06 |
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I love them all but "LA Woman" is my favourite.
something about Morrison's voice on that record, Im not sure if its the extra 30 pounds or the booze and cigs, but his voice is killer on it.
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DEATH TO FALSE PROG!
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Posted: December 17 2006 at 18:46 |
I agree with The T in many, many points.
While the overall group's sound is proggy, it's rather difficult to pick only one album which is the proggiest. Strange Days has "When the Music's Over", Soft Parade has "The Soft Parade", L.A.Woman has "Riders on the Storm", and so on. It doesn't mean that the mentioned albums don't have other prog songs, those were just examples. All their six studio albums I'm acquainted with are at the same (more or less) degree of progginess, in my opinion. I'll vote, probably, for their debut album, and not only because of "The End".
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Posted: December 17 2006 at 18:48 |
 Tuzvihar wrote:
What do you think about "An American Prayer"? |
I love it! 
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Posted: December 17 2006 at 22:32 |
Tuzvihar wrote:
What do you think about "An American Prayer"? |
First, I made a mistake. Love street is part of waiting.
And, about the remark, I don't consider An American Prayer a full The Doorsd album: the music was (mostly) made post-mortem (Morrison of course)... most of the music are bits of already released tracks.... without the actual participation of Morrison, although the poetry is his, he hadn't any input in the actual final sound of the music and in the music Manzarek, Krieger and Densmore selected as background to the poetry. I think is a great album but not a great THE DOORS album.... it's more of a tribute for me.... but very good at that.
And I'M STILL WAITING for them to be INCLUDED HERE. 
Edited by The T - December 17 2006 at 22:33
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Posted: December 17 2006 at 22:40 |
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"My Wild Love" is also a part of Waiting for the Sun, but it doesn't really matter as Strange Days has enough great songs within, being crowned, of course, by the unbelievable "When the Music's Over".
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Posted: December 18 2006 at 22:48 |
The Doors as a trio are still good...with the exception of some of the lyrics. "Wandering Musician" from "Other Voices" is very good too, and I have read some commentaries about the lyrics being a tribute to Morrison.
I consider The Doors without Morrison still as The Doors...unfortunately they didn`t think the same. That was the reason they split: "We finally realized that the band wasn`t right without Jim, so it was time to close The Doors" said Manzarek in one interview. This is also one of the reasons why those two trio albums are deleted since the mid seventies in the U.S.
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Posted: December 18 2006 at 23:04 |
The Doors - The Doors is my choice: Crystal Ship, Light my Fire and The End are all prog songs/epics (The End). And that composed & recorded in 1966! (yeah I know the album was released only in 1967). Other great prog albums are (imho) Strange Days (When the Music's Over!) and LA Woman.
And they should be included here so this poll would be in another section!
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Posted: January 15 2007 at 07:30 |
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Waiting for the sun for me! All albums have some definitely proggy elements though.
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Posted: January 24 2007 at 08:33 |
I voted "The Doors" 1967 of course.
It is the most influential album they will produce.
They intended to reproduce it afterwards but generally failing ("The Music's over is undoubtfully another attempt for "The End").
This been said, I really love that bandand owe all their official catalogue (and about 20 ive albums from their non-offical repertoire).
Cheers.
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Posted: January 24 2007 at 21:24 |
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absolutely none of them.. but since that is not an option. Waiting for the Sun was the closest thing to it.
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Posted: January 24 2007 at 21:27 |
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Posted: January 24 2007 at 22:48 |
micky wrote:
absolutely none of them.. but since that is not an option. Waiting for the Sun was the closest thing to it. |
I believe there are actually 3 proggier albums than Waiting for the Sun micky man  , at least you can take on prog song per album, though.
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 10:35 |
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The Doors' debut really set the tone - a great prog album
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 10:40 |
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Strange Days. That album is amazingly good. And with songs like when The Music's Over or People Are Strange.
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