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Apsalar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
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Though people might be interested in this. Was browsing around eBay and
happened to stumble across a whole bunch of Plastic People of the
Universe CD's. The person selling the items decided to write up a
review for one of the album, which entailed some interesting history
behind the band. They are one of the bands on our chart so I thought
this could be of some interest.
Review & link to the page: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PLASTIC-PEOPLE-OF-THE-UNIVERSE-CD-Kolejnice-duni-Zappa_W0QQitemZ200056051006QQihZ010QQcategoryZ307QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem PLASTIC PEOPLE OF THE UNIVERSE < the
most persecuted rock band in the history of western world just because
they were ignoring state's orders and playing underground
music inspired by MR.Zappa,Velvet Underground,Fugs and others > Three days before the end of the decade, on December 29,
1989, Vaclav Havel (big time friend of Plastic People and disident who
were jailed along PPU)became President of Czechoslovakia and began
replacing the Communist officials in his office with his friends
including other Czech dissidents and rock musicians. In January of
1990, just as the new democracy had begun, Frank Zappa flew to Prague
at the invitation of Havel, one of his greatest fans. 5000 rock fans
were waiting at the airport to witness the historic arrival of the
famous American. A Prague film crew captured Zappa's arrival at the
airport just as Shirley Temple Black, the former "good ship lollipop"
girl, then the acting ambassador to Czech , was leaving. Mrs. Black was
asked about her views on the distinguished Frank Zappa's visit. Czech
citizens did not understand her horrified reaction to this question.
Zappa met Havel at Prague Castle and presented the new president with
several ideas on how to help Czechoslovakia move into the democratic
age, such as cellular phones and tourism. Zappa was emotionally
overcome upon meeting older fans of his who had endured beatings by the
Secret Police for the sake of his music. Another historic meeting was that between Havel and Velvet
Underground founder Lou Reed, who had traveled to Prague in 1990 to
interview Havel. In Prague Castle, Reed presented Havel with a copy of
his latest album as Havel unfolded the incredible story of the Plastic
People to an awed Lou Reed, explaining how influential the Velvet
Underground and rock music had been in the Velvet Revolution. Later
that night, Reed was taken to a club where a band was playing. As Reed
recalled, "I suddenly realized the music sounded familiar. They were
playing Velvet Underground songs „ beautiful, heartfelt, impeccable
versions of my songs. To say I was moved would be an understatement."
The band was Pulnoc. Reed joined them on stage as they performed for
Havel and 300 of his friends. After the concert, an ecstatic Havel
introduced Reed to his friends, most of them former dissidents, as they
recalled reciting Reed's lyrics in prison for comfort and inspiration. The Plastic People were ultimately a major catalyst to the overthrow of communism in Eastern Europe. History would most surely have been very different without them. Apart from the aforementioned Beatles and the Velvet Underground, there's not a lot of rock and roll bands you can say that about. Also, knowing that the true cultural heritage of Czechoslovakia includes not just Jan Hus and Franz Kafka but also Lou Reed and Frank Zappa makes it easier to understand why Vaclav Havel's record collection includes not just Antonin Dvorak but also "White Light White Heat" and "Bongo Fury." Let's face it. There's not a lot of national presidents you can say that about.They did a great show here in New York on July 18, 1998 with Gary Lucas (ex-Beefheart guitarist), John S. Hall (King Missile), Tuli Kupferberg (Fugs) and Jim O'Rourke opening for them- it was the first and only U.S. date that they've done so far. On September 16, 1998, Milan played a dinner show in Washington D.C. for President Clinton and Havel, accompanying his old hero, Lou Reed.This band needs and deserves your full attention.I am happy to present their music to people like you.If you read their shortened story above you must agree.Now it is up to you whether you'll ignore it or start exploring something wonderfull.I could not imagine to live without it!Actually it is sad to say but those moments with their music were only happy times while I was living in Orwell's world 1984. |
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listennow801 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1819 |
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It is interesting to consider what this place really stands for. What the term "progressive rock" really means. I have noted in the last wk or so since I have become a bit more active here, that this is an exceedingly contentious point at PA. It seems to mean very many different things to very many different people. I have noted that I seem, relatively, arcane in my application of the term; thus I have been trying to define and understand what the term actually means to me. [That is, for many a year I have not even thought about it - music just is or is not prog to me. But why is that so? What critical apparatus do I apply to making these judgments, almost knee jerk at this point?] I realized that the difference in my [personal, albeit] definition of the term lies, often, in the fact that the word 'rock' in the compound phrase is really quite an innocuous one to me. That is, my experience of prog, via RIO esp., which really denies the limits which the term 'rock' engenders, is often about subverting the very limits that the word 'rock' defines. Is that not why we have an alternative phrase? What shines forth is the term 'progressive.' When I think of this and apply it to my listening[s], I think of, and apply it, literally. Just think of what the word really means, of all it's [pretentious!][note: laugh here] implications...
her 2 cents Edited by listennow801 - December 07 2006 at 18:12 |
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Joren ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 07 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 6667 |
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Like I said before, this is not really a website dedicated to progressive rock as in rock that is progressive, but to prog rock, as a genre/style.
Re The Plastic People Of The Universe: I have some of their music on my pc, but in poor sound quality unfortunately... |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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Poclet Orchestra are excellent, has anyone else heard their album?
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Howe Protege ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 27 2006 Status: Offline Points: 236 |
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I've actually grown to really appreciate the quirkiness that is The Residents. I have Duck Stab / Buster & Glen and was wondering if this album is weirder or less weird than their other albums and where to go from here.
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My favorite pasty faced British pal.
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avestin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
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Anyone knows this band - No Secrets In The Family ?
Here is their myspace: http://www.myspace.com/nosecretsinthefamily |
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Bj-1 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 04 2005 Location: No(r)Way Status: Offline Points: 31627 |
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Eskimo from 1979 is probably their most inaccessible release ever, more bizarre than Duck Stab/B&G, though in a calmer way. I think "Not Available" is a great choice if want to get more "into" them.
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Apsalar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
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Eskimo is a great suggestion even thought could be a testing listen for some. There are not many concept albums out their entailing the intimate lives on Eskimo's. Though headphones are a must for this release. Along with "Not Available" I would like to push forward their 76 album "The Third Reich 'N Roll". I think with the re-release of the album these days comes with some bonus tracks. |
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Apsalar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
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This is an interesting one, having a listen to the songs on the myspace as we speak. Influences spewing out from all over the shop, complex and playful... will have a further dig around for some more info sometime. I will tag this one a try and come back to it when I have some more focused time on my hands. No another note Bj-1 I just noticed Ahvak on your recent purchases list! How is it treating you? |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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I love Ahvak, I listened to that album for the first time earlier in the week. Great stuff!
I know I'm not Blowie, but I just wanted to comment on them. |
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Howe Protege ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 27 2006 Status: Offline Points: 236 |
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Thanks, I will definately check those out!
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My favorite pasty faced British pal.
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avestin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
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Listened to two albums deeper today:
Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar Komintern - Le Bal Du Rat Mort Now the first, though it is tagged here as Zeuhl, has other styles it ventures to (as noted by reviewrs) such as fusion and Canterubry. Nice album, only not essential stuff, but a very nice listen. As for Komintern, well here I was more enthusiastic - great oddity this one is, and an album all people of this thread should listen to. http://gnosis2000.net/reviews/komintern.htm http://goanuj.topcities.com/nww/komintern.html Edited by avestin - December 07 2006 at 22:26 |
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Apsalar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
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I agree with you fully about the Kultivator album. I always enjoy it when I decide to put in on for a spin, but am never full astounded. I have always thought of it as Zeuhl-Canterbury, it still holds that throbbing bass, while having a playful Canterbury feel.
As for Komintern; I have not heard of them, read over both those reviews, things sounded promising. The mention of French music has gotten me interested already. Just a notes those two link keep getting reverted back to this page (just to let you know). |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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http://gnosis2000.net/reviews/komintern.htm
http://goanuj.topcities.com/nww/komintern.html Fixed. ![]() Edited by Geck0 - December 07 2006 at 22:21 |
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Apsalar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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Look again, I think you'll find you were wrong.
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avestin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
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Again, we agree fully in regards to Kultivator. As for Komintern, of course you know them. I saw you discuss this with Yuko in the Zeuhl 5 thread... or have I? |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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I'll try and check them out soon. Expect things to slow down over the Christmas period my end (not too much, but just a little).
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Apsalar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
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Apsalar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
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Well it is still stuffed for me ![]() I would agree with you on Weidorje, they are quite a piece. It is a shame there was only one album coming from their direction. But still the are plenty of other side project in this direction to keep us all interested ![]() James are you familiar with the band Cos. They are under Canterbury here, but a very perplexing one at that! I have talked with Yu about them. I think they could be something you like. Edited by Black Velvet - December 07 2006 at 23:32 |
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