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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 03:18
Though people might be interested in this. Was browsing around eBay and happened to stumble across a whole bunch of Plastic People of the Universe CD's. The person selling the items decided to write up a review for one of the album, which entailed some interesting history behind the band. They are one of the bands on our chart so I thought this could be of some interest.

Review & link to the page: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PLASTIC-PEOPLE-OF-THE-UNIVERSE-CD-Kolejnice-duni-Zappa_W0QQitemZ200056051006QQihZ010QQcategoryZ307QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

PLASTIC PEOPLE OF THE UNIVERSE

  <   the most persecuted rock band in the history of western world just because they were ignoring state's orders and playing underground music inspired by MR.Zappa,Velvet Underground,Fugs and others  >

Cd "Kolejnice duni" .Cd is NEW and  sealed .For fans of Velvets,Zappa,Cpt.Beef.,Fugs, This heat and others; very essential band.Look into it.

THIS IS MY LITTLE TRY FOR A REVIEW(sorry for my sometimes improper english):They started like everybody else,wanted to be famous rock star.Well that did not happened.Instead they were persecuted by the state.Even today they are not widely known in the public.I am glad because to me it is the only undergound band who never sold out.Their spirit remained free untill today still performing for small audiences and what is more important playing still psych,underground rock music!!How many bands can say that?Anyway by listening to this album  while  writting this add I have to admire them for playing stuff like this in those years (69-72) in Czechoslovakia.This raw and often harsh sound was unbeliavable to people in this country,to them it was crazy freaky hashis, lsd stuff which they did not understand.I know because I was there!!What's amazing that they found music of Mr.Zappa,VVU and Cpt.Beefheart and The Fugs in 60's when even in their country (USA)people hardly  knew  them.Anyway their music inspired them greatly.I can say that often  PPU's  music was more enthusiastic and expressive then those above mentioned(some can argue about their musicianship at that time but they made it up by their creativity and enthusiasm).Who could belive that?The band started to be hated by officials and soon their rights of playing were revoked.Well PPU were very stubborned and played anyway.Court hearings,persecutation,prison followed.That did not stopped them.That made them stronger and stronger.Haw many bands could measure up to this level of artistic courage  in USA and UK?They were continuing playing illegaly in farm houses,on friends weddings,organising secret gigs in small villages.IMAGINE THIS PICTURE:groups of  long haired strangelly dressed freaks in kind of zappish-beefheart fashion walking from train and bus stations through the woods just to see and experince illegal secret show in a country were idols were polka and Karel Gott(national singer) . Through the rest of the decade, the band found it increasingly difficult to perform their music without retribution. Whenever their friends had marriages, a wedding party provided an occasion to rent a hall and put on a private concert. Usually, however, putting together a concert was more akin to a cloak and dagger movie. A remote site in the woods near an isolated Bohemian village was picked, word of the location was then passed among friends, whispered from ear to ear. The exact location of the site was never revealed more than one day in advance and sometimes not revealed until that night. Fans would get off at the nearest rail station, then walk miles through the forest and across farms, sometimes for hours in rain or snow, searching for a remote farmhouse or barn. Their shows were very sporadic and many times police found out and stopped it,beated and arrested many of them including their fans who also deserve big time applause for their courage for wanting to be around those dangerous rebels to society where there was no tolerancy whatsoever..They were in total isolation,no money,no future.It made them stronger and stronger.They lived for their  music and for their freedom.Actually they created their freedom,their little world no matter what.The Velvets influence extended to the PPU's live shows, in which they would employ psychedelic light shows, makeup, and outrageous costumes to create a multi-media happening not unlike the Velvets' early concerts as part of Andy Warhol's Plastic Inevitable.  Like the Velvets, they also employed the unusual (for rock) feature of a viola player to give their music a shrill edge.Although the primitive technological conditions made them sound like a garage avant-rock band, the originality of their vision comes through in the creepy cheap electric piano, ominous violin scrapes, gravel-textured vocals, and dissonant melodies that owed as much to the recesses of the Bohemian forest as Western pop.  In some ways, it was a fusion of the sensibilities of the Velvet Underground and Frank Zappa -- an ironic critical postulation, considering that the Velvets took mean-spirited swipes at Zappa on several occasions during interviews.  Lyrics were supplied by Czech dissident poet Egon Bondy.  PPU would record several more albums over the next dozen or so years, but Egon Bondy remains Hlavsa's personal favorite.  .

Strange things were happening.The house where they were recording their music next day burned to the ground,that happened on more occasions.Probably just to warn people not to contribute in this fight.
On the end it sounds like a fairy tale of underground music and for PPU:playing in the national castle in front of president Vaclav Havel and other dissidents who became members of the goverment of Czech Rep,playing in Paris on Andy's Warhole exhibition,Zappa singing with them in Prague same as Lou Reed and finally even playing along Lou Reed in front of President Clinton in the White house at the dinner.Who could imagine that  in 60's and 70'.

Three days before the end of the decade, on December 29, 1989, Vaclav Havel (big time friend of Plastic People and disident who were jailed along PPU)became President of Czechoslovakia and began replacing the Communist officials in his office with his friends including other Czech dissidents and rock musicians. In January of 1990, just as the new democracy had begun, Frank Zappa flew to Prague at the invitation of Havel, one of his greatest fans. 5000 rock fans were waiting at the airport to witness the historic arrival of the famous American. A Prague film crew captured Zappa's arrival at the airport just as Shirley Temple Black, the former "good ship lollipop" girl, then the acting ambassador to Czech , was leaving. Mrs. Black was asked about her views on the distinguished Frank Zappa's visit. Czech citizens did not understand her horrified reaction to this question. Zappa met Havel at Prague Castle and presented the new president with several ideas on how to help Czechoslovakia move into the democratic age, such as cellular phones and tourism. Zappa was emotionally overcome upon meeting older fans of his who had endured beatings by the Secret Police for the sake of his music.

Another historic meeting was that between Havel and Velvet Underground founder Lou Reed, who had traveled to Prague in 1990 to interview Havel. In Prague Castle, Reed presented Havel with a copy of his latest album as Havel unfolded the incredible story of the Plastic People to an awed Lou Reed, explaining how influential the Velvet Underground and rock music had been in the Velvet Revolution. Later that night, Reed was taken to a club where a band was playing. As Reed recalled, "I suddenly realized the music sounded familiar. They were playing Velvet Underground songs „ beautiful, heartfelt, impeccable versions of my songs. To say I was moved would be an understatement." The band was Pulnoc. Reed joined them on stage as they performed for Havel and 300 of his friends. After the concert, an ecstatic Havel introduced Reed to his friends, most of them former dissidents, as they recalled reciting Reed's lyrics in prison for comfort and inspiration.

The Plastic People were ultimately a major catalyst to the overthrow of communism in Eastern Europe. History would most surely have been very different without them. Apart from the aforementioned Beatles and the Velvet Underground, there's not a lot of rock and roll bands you can say that about.

Also, knowing that the true cultural heritage of Czechoslovakia includes not just Jan Hus and Franz Kafka but also Lou Reed and Frank Zappa makes it easier to understand why Vaclav Havel's record collection includes not just Antonin Dvorak but also "White Light White Heat" and "Bongo Fury." Let's face it. There's not a lot of national presidents you can say that about.They did a great show here in New York on July 18, 1998 with Gary Lucas (ex-Beefheart guitarist), John S. Hall (King Missile), Tuli Kupferberg (Fugs) and Jim O'Rourke opening for them- it was the first and only U.S. date that they've done so far. On September 16, 1998, Milan played a dinner show in Washington D.C. for President Clinton and Havel, accompanying his old hero, Lou Reed.

This band needs and deserves your full attention.I am happy to present their music to people like you.If you read their shortened story above you must agree.Now it is up to you whether you'll ignore it or start exploring something wonderfull.I could not imagine to live without it!Actually it is sad to say but those moments with their music were only happy times while I was living in Orwell's world 1984.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 06:11
It is interesting to consider what this place really stands for. What the term "progressive rock" really means. I have noted in the last wk or so since I have become a bit more active here, that this is an exceedingly contentious point at PA. It seems to mean very many different things to very many different people. I have noted that I seem, relatively, arcane in my application of the term; thus I have been trying to define and understand what the term actually means to me. [That is, for many a year I have not even thought about it - music just is or is not prog to me. But why is that so? What critical apparatus do I apply to making these judgments, almost knee jerk at this point?] I realized that the difference in my [personal, albeit] definition of the term lies, often, in the fact that the word 'rock' in the compound phrase is really quite an innocuous one to me. That is, my experience of prog, via RIO esp., which really denies the limits which the term 'rock' engenders, is often about subverting the very limits that the word 'rock' defines. Is that not why we have an alternative phrase? What shines forth is the term 'progressive.' When I think of this and apply it to my listening[s], I think of, and apply it, literally. Just think of what the word really means, of all it's [pretentious!][note: laugh here] implications...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 09:25
Like I said before, this is not really a website dedicated to progressive rock as in rock that is progressive, but to prog rock, as a genre/style.

Re The Plastic People Of The Universe: I have some of their music on my pc, but in poor sound quality unfortunately...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 19:12
Poclet Orchestra are excellent, has anyone else heard their album?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 19:33
I've actually grown to really appreciate the quirkiness that is The Residents.  I have Duck Stab / Buster & Glen and was wondering if this album is weirder or less weird than their other albums and where to go from here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 19:38
Anyone knows this band - No Secrets In The Family ?


Here is their myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/nosecretsinthefamily
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 19:38
Originally posted by Howe Protege Howe Protege wrote:

I've actually grown to really appreciate the quirkiness that is The Residents.  I have Duck Stab / Buster & Glen and was wondering if this album is weirder or less weird than their other albums and where to go from here.
 
 
Eskimo from 1979 is probably their most inaccessible release ever, more bizarre than Duck Stab/B&G, though in a calmer way. I think "Not Available" is a great choice if want to get more "into" them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 20:35
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Originally posted by Howe Protege Howe Protege wrote:

I've actually grown to really appreciate the quirkiness that is The Residents.  I have Duck Stab / Buster & Glen and was wondering if this album is weirder or less weird than their other albums and where to go from here.
 
 
Eskimo from 1979 is probably their most inaccessible release ever, more bizarre than Duck Stab/B&G, though in a calmer way. I think "Not Available" is a great choice if want to get more "into" them.


Eskimo is a great suggestion even thought could be a testing listen for some. There are not many concept albums out their entailing the intimate lives on Eskimo's. Though headphones are a must for this release.

Along with "Not Available" I would like to push forward their 76 album "The Third Reich 'N Roll". I think with the re-release of the album these days comes with some bonus tracks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 20:40
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Anyone knows this band - No Secrets In The Family ?


Here is their myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/nosecretsinthefamily


This is an interesting one, having a listen to the songs on the myspace as we speak. Influences spewing out from all over the shop, complex and playful... will have a further dig around for some more info sometime. I will tag this one a try and come back to it when I have some more focused time on my hands.

No another note Bj-1 I just noticed Ahvak on your recent purchases list! How is it treating you?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 20:51
I love Ahvak, I listened to that album for the first time earlier in the week.  Great stuff!

I know I'm not Blowie, but I just wanted to comment on them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 21:31
Thanks, I will definately check those out!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 21:53
Listened to two albums deeper today:
Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar
Komintern - Le Bal Du Rat Mort

Now the first, though it is tagged here as Zeuhl, has other styles it ventures to (as noted by reviewrs) such as fusion and Canterubry. Nice album, only not essential stuff, but a very nice listen.
As for Komintern, well here I was more enthusiastic - great oddity this one is, and an album all people of this thread should listen to.

http://gnosis2000.net/reviews/komintern.htm

http://goanuj.topcities.com/nww/komintern.html



    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 22:12
I agree with you fully about the Kultivator album. I always enjoy it when I decide to put in on for a spin, but am never full astounded. I have always thought of it as Zeuhl-Canterbury, it still holds that throbbing bass, while having a playful Canterbury feel.

As for Komintern; I have not heard of them, read over both those reviews, things sounded promising. The mention of French music has gotten me interested already. Just a notes those two link keep getting reverted back to this page (just to let you know).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 22:22
Look again, I think you'll find you were wrong. Wink

Weidorje are excellent, by the way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 22:28
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

I agree with you fully about the Kultivator album. I always enjoy it when I decide to put in on for a spin, but am never full astounded. I have always thought of it as Zeuhl-Canterbury, it still holds that throbbing bass, while having a playful Canterbury feel.As for Komintern; I have not heard of them, read over both those reviews, things sounded promising. The mention of French music has gotten me interested already. Just a notes those two link keep getting reverted back to this page (just to let you know).


Again, we agree fully in regards to Kultivator.

As for Komintern, of course you know them. I saw you discuss this with Yuko in the Zeuhl 5 thread... or have I?



    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 22:30
I'll try and check them out soon.  Expect things to slow down over the Christmas period my end (not too much, but just a little).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 23:10
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

I agree with you fully about the Kultivator album. I always enjoy it when I decide to put in on for a spin, but am never full astounded. I have always thought of it as Zeuhl-Canterbury, it still holds that throbbing bass, while having a playful Canterbury feel.As for Komintern; I have not heard of them, read over both those reviews, things sounded promising. The mention of French music has gotten me interested already. Just a notes those two link keep getting reverted back to this page (just to let you know).


Again, we agree fully in regards to Kultivator.

As for Komintern, of course you know them. I saw you discuss this with Yuko in the Zeuhl 5 thread... or have I?



Hmmm... If I have I cannot remember have done so, I'm hoping not; I thought my memory was a little better than this Ouch. Though that stunning cover does look rather familiar.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2006 at 23:16
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Look again, I think you'll find you were wrong. Wink

Weidorje are excellent, by the way.


Well it is still stuffed for me LOL But it didn't stop me from hastily reading the reviews.

I would agree with you on Weidorje, they are quite a piece. It is a shame there was only one album coming from their direction. But still the are plenty of other side project in this direction to keep us all interested Smile

James are you familiar with the band Cos. They are under Canterbury here, but a very perplexing one at that! I have talked with Yu about them. I think they could be something you like.


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