Bruford or Peart?

sleeper wrote: Your deliberatly being pedantic here arent you Tony. I chose Bruford because his drumming has immpressed me more than Pearts. Bruford seems to have more controle, he knows when to pound he hell out of the drum kit and when to be gentle and subtle to a degree that I havnt heard Peart get anywhere near . Though I only have A Farwell To Kings and 2112 to judge Peart on and I have more of Brufords work, those two Rush albums havnt impressed me enough to make me think wow and explore his work further. The Yes Album did that for me regarding Bruford.

Bruford's work on Yes is definitely short of spectacular, I wouldn't even have to think about this poll if Bruford hadn't joined King Crimson.

Tony R wrote: sleeper wrote: Your deliberatly being pedantic here arent you Tony.I chose Bruford because his drumming has immpressed me more than Pearts. Bruford seems to have more controle, he knows when to pound he hell out of the drum kit and when to be gentle and subtle to a degree that I havnt heard Peart get anywhere near . Though I only have A Farwell To Kings and 2112 to judge Peart on and I have more of Brufords work, those two Rush albums havnt impressed me enough to make me think wow and explore his work further. The Yes Album did that for me regarding Bruford.      You've only heard two Rush albums and that makes you qualified to sum up his career worth? I am stunned....

Clearly you didnt read my post Tony, thier was nothing about anything of Rush, drumming and all, that made me want to explore them furthure. Bruford was a damn good drummer in Yes and it was he that made me want to explore Crimson furthar after Islands as he joined Fripp then (I found Islands boring).

Ergo, Bruford>Peart since he got me interested in a band that I wasnt impressed with. Can you say that the abilities of Rush got a whole lot better after A Farewell To Kings, Since that is the only way that I could find Peart better than Bruford?


Edited by sleeper - November 25 2006 at 20:00

I find it hard to believe that you put these two drummers side by side on a stage and let them just cut loose, that most of the eyes wouldn't be on Peart. Bruford is very good; but, next to Peart it's no contest.

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Radar Love wrote: Peart's one of those drummers who needs to be suurounded by an array of drums just to make him look good, whilst if you listen, he over uses the snare so what's the point   Bruford is far, far better than Peart.

Ridiculous. It's not like he's Alex Van Halen who had these drum kits the size of a small town, but were only there as an illusion. Peart utilizes every square inch of that kit and makes his instrument a relevant part of Rush's music.

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sleeper wrote: Tony R wrote: sleeper wrote: Your deliberatly being pedantic here arent you Tony.I chose Bruford because his drumming has immpressed me more than Pearts. Bruford seems to have more controle, he knows when to pound he hell out of the drum kit and when to be gentle and subtle to a degree that I havnt heard Peart get anywhere near . Though I only have A Farwell To Kings and 2112 to judge Peart on and I have more of Brufords work, those two Rush albums havnt impressed me enough to make me think wow and explore his work further. The Yes Album did that for me regarding Bruford.      You've only heard two Rush albums and that makes you qualified to sum up his career worth? I am stunned.... Clearly you didnt read my post Tony, thier was nothing about anything of Rush, drumming and all, that made me want to explore them furthure. Bruford was a damn good drummer in Yes and it was he that made me want to explore Crimson furthar after Islands as he joined Fripp then (I found Islands boring). Ergo, Bruford>Peart since he got me interested in a band that I wasnt impressed with. Can you say that the abilities of Rush got a whole lot better after A Farewell To Kings, Since that is the only way that I could find Peart better than Bruford?

    
Well you only have to check out their BIO to see that Moving Pictures is considered their "pinnacle" followed by Hemispheres(both after AFTK - though I dont agree with Hemispheres in this position. AFTK was released in 1977 and their latest studio album in 2002. 2112 was only Rush's 3rd studio album to include Peart and AFTK the fourth an both were heavy rock albums,so there would be alot of pounding. Rush's music evolved greatly between 1974 and 1983 allowing Peart more freedom to express himself. Rush werte a far heavier band than Yes so obviously he played in that style!

This discussion is so lazy. There is so much snobbery at play here disguised as reasoned argument which itself,when you scratch the surface is mere suppposition.



Bah humbug!
If you are going to contribute to these things at least put some thought into it...original though at that.

Which only goes to show that such polls have little to do with the truth, whatever it is in this case.

Listening to "The Rhythm Method" from A Show Of Hands...love to see Bruford pull some of this stuff off. Wouldn't happen.

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yesfan88 wrote: Bill Bruford is probably the best drummer ever to walk the earth. Every time I listen to him play, I am astonished. He's so clean and precise and everything he does fits perfectly in the song. With other drummers, I sometimes imagine things they could have done to improve a particular song, but never with Bruford. Also, in response to E-Dub, my 19 year old friend can play the rhythm method. It's a question of style, not talent in that particular case. Peart is excellent, of course, but I think Bruford is capable of playing just about anything.

And he plays it as fluidly and brilliantly as Peart? Anybody can get out there and make a valliant attempt; but, it's another thing to pull it off. I've seen cover bands playing a Rush tune, but it sounds like total crap.

I'd still be surprised to hear Bruford ever play anything as crisp as Peart. Especially on some of those fills (i.e. "The Spirit Of The Radio" comes to mind). Bruford strikes me as one whose strength is hi-hat/snare/bass drum interplay. I've never heard a fill that just floored me, though.

Lastly, I think it's a testament when Peart's influencing a new generation of drummers like your buddy.   

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Edited by E-Dub - November 27 2006 at 18:18

sleeper wrote: Your deliberatly being pedantic here arent you Tony. I chose Bruford because his drumming has immpressed me more than Pearts. Bruford seems to have more controle, he knows when to pound he hell out of the drum kit and when to be gentle and subtle to a degree that I havnt heard Peart get anywhere near . Though I only have A Farwell To Kings and 2112 to judge Peart on and I have more of Brufords work, those two Rush albums havnt impressed me enough to make me think wow and explore his work further. The Yes Album did that for me regarding Bruford.

Listen to the end of Cygnus X-1 again.  What Peart does with the drums there is amazing.  I don't know what you see in Bruford's drumming with Yes.  He was awesome on King Crimson, but his playing with Yes is sort of lame.


Edited by Sasquamo - November 27 2006 at 19:46

I voted for Peart but I agree with Jeremy, Bruford's Yes output is very high quality. Heart of the Sunrise, South Side of the Sky, Close to the Edge, and more are all brilliant.