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Hierophant 
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 Posted: November 22 2006 at 19:13 |
 stonebeard wrote:
I'll breaki it down what I think a bit (on memory alone, so I may be a bit messed on some albums I'm not too familiar with):
I : A few songs that are a bit proggy, but overall, this is a bluesy rock n roll album.
II : Even fewer prog aspects. I don't listen to it much, but I suppose this is where the influence Rush might have gathered is most prominent. A bit less blues, a bit more hard rock.
III : I can't remember much prog-relevent music here, just half good English folk tunes and half good rock tunes.
IV: Here we go. The progginess kicks in, but I would go so far as to call it any sort of prog album. "Four Sticks," "Stairway to Heaven."
Houses of the Holy : Slightly less prog aspects than IV, and a bit poppier in my mind.
Physical Graffiti : Oh yeah, lotsa prog here ("In the Light" and "Kashmir" come to mind first), but an equal amount of just plain good rock.
I'm even less familiar with Presence, though I understand it has several long songs ("Achillies Last Stand" is rather proggy) and I've got nothing for or against In through the Out Door. |
Kashmir prog? you mean the same song that goes like this for about 12 minutes or so... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN... prog at its finest
Edited by Hierophant - November 22 2006 at 19:14
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Sasquamo
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 19:31 |
Hierophant wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
I'll breaki it down what I think a bit (on memory alone, so I may be a bit messed on some albums I'm not too familiar with):
I : A few songs that are a bit proggy, but overall, this is a bluesy rock n roll album.
II : Even fewer prog aspects. I don't listen to it much, but I suppose this is where the influence Rush might have gathered is most prominent. A bit less blues, a bit more hard rock.
III : I can't remember much prog-relevent music here, just half good English folk tunes and half good rock tunes.
IV: Here we go. The progginess kicks in, but I would go so far as to call it any sort of prog album. "Four Sticks," "Stairway to Heaven."
Houses of the Holy : Slightly less prog aspects than IV, and a bit poppier in my mind.
Physical Graffiti : Oh yeah, lotsa prog here ("In the Light" and "Kashmir" come to mind first), but an equal amount of just plain good rock.
I'm even less familiar with Presence, though I understand it has several long songs ("Achillies Last Stand" is rather proggy) and I've got nothing for or against In through the Out Door. |
Kashmir prog? you mean the same song that goes like this for about 12 minutes or so... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN... DUN DUN DUN...
prog at its finest
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You'll never understand, Hierophant, prog doesn't have to be complex, lots of prog repeats itself, like, uh, krautrock, and...nothing else I guess, but the bottom line is, Led Zeppelin is definitely a prog band because it's awesome and I love it. (I'm being sarcastic, of course, Kashmir is one of the worst, most boring songs to disgrace my ears.)
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The Rock
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 19:53 |
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no way not golden earring! they suck! |
No they don't!
And even if they did,that shouldn't stop them from being included here.
If Led Zeppelin,Uriah Heep,Iron Maiden,Wishbone Ash,Queen,ect....are on PA so should GOLDEN EARRING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop"
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The Rock
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 19:56 |
Flasket Brinner
Tumulto
Bandolero
Fifty foot Hose
GOLDEN EARRING
THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN PA!
GOLDEN ARRING GOLDEN EARRING GOLDEN EARRING!!!!!!!!
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What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop"
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chamberry
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:11 |
We barely get "thank you" when we add prog bands to the site, but when one prog related or proto-prog band is added then we get flamed for it.  The special collabs are adding prog bands every week. Celebrate those addition instead of doing the opposite for non prog bands.
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avestin
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:18 |
chamberry wrote:
We barely get "thank you" when we add prog bands to the site, but when one prog related or proto-prog band is added then we get flamed for it.  The special collabs are adding prog bands every week. Celebrate those addition instead of doing the opposite for non prog bands.
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Exactly.
Has anyone noticed the following additions:
Brèche
Frohmader, Peter
God Is An Astronaut
Extrovert
L'Engoulevent
Egyptian Kings
Kin Ping Meh
Octopus (Chi)
Decibel
Set Fire To Flames
Eider Stellaire
Aquelarre
And many more...
And more to come... (from me especially French bands mainly rooted in the RIO/Avant/Zeuhl field, but not only).
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:19 |
chamberry wrote:
We barely get "thank you" when we add prog bands to the site, but when one prog related or proto-prog band is added then we get flamed for it.
The special collabs are adding prog bands every week. Celebrate those addition instead of doing the opposite for non prog bands.
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Yes! 
In a couple of days SCs will add a new US prog band that released their 1st album now in 2006. Apparently all agreed they're real prog and there's also a healthy dispute to see if they go to the Symphonic or Art-Rock genres. Wait and see, fellows! 
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avestin
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:21 |
Atkingani wrote:
chamberry wrote:
We barely get "thank you" when we add prog bands to the site, but when one prog related or proto-prog band is added then we get flamed for it. [IMG]alt=Ermm src="smileys/smiley24.gif" align=absMiddle>The special collabs are adding prog bands every week. Celebrate those addition instead of doing the opposite for non prog bands. |
Yes! [IMG]height=17 alt=Clap src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" width=18 align=absMiddle>
In a couple of days SCs will add a new US prog band that released their 1st album now in 2006. Apparently all agreed they're real prog and there's also a healthy dispute to see if they go to the Symphonic or Art-Rock genres. Wait and see, fellows![IMG]height=17 alt=Smile src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle> |
Are you refering to my new protege, Guigo?
If so, then yes!!! instead of fighting over this, go listen to one of this year's highlights in the form of Baltimore based - Deluge Grander.
I hope to add them asap.
Edited by avestin - November 22 2006 at 20:21
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tardis
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:23 |
chamberry wrote:
We barely get "thank you" when we add prog bands to the site, but when one prog related or proto-prog band is added then we get flamed for it.
The special collabs are adding prog bands every week. Celebrate those addition instead of doing the opposite for non prog bands.
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THANKYOU!!!  
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johnobvious
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:24 |
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Chamberry, you are right. I deal with it all the time in my job. Do one hundred things right and noteworthy and not hear a peep, but do something wrong and all the sudden you have issues. Not that adding LZ is wrong. Hopefully people gripe in a constructive manner. But of course, the collabs had to know this was coming. It had to be quite a process to even get them added and I'm sure there was nowhere near a consensus.
I hope I speak for others by saying thank you to the people who do the heavy lifting behind the scenes, not for money, but for the love of the music.
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Biggles was in rehab last Saturday
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valravennz
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:25 |
chamberry wrote:
We barely get "thank you" when we add prog bands to the site, but when one prog related or proto-prog band is added then we get flamed for it.
The special collabs are adding prog bands every week. Celebrate those addition instead of doing the opposite for non prog bands.
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A big " THANK-YOU" special collabs for adding Led Zeppelin -  - I know many are happy with their inclusion, including myself. Well done!!
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
- Robert Fripp
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The Whistler
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:29 |
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Yeah, Led Zep rawks, and anyone who doesn't think so has a different opinion than I do!
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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chamberry
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:44 |
You are all very welcomed. And I hope everyone could enjoy the other 2,556 bands in the database. 
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tardis
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:45 |
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The Whistler
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:47 |
chamberry wrote:
You are all very welcomed. And I hope everyone could enjoy the other 2,556 bands in the database. |
Ha-ha! Silly fool! There is no band but Led Zeppelin!
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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tardis
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:50 |
The Whistler wrote:
chamberry wrote:
You are all very welcomed. And I hope everyone could enjoy the other 2,556 bands in the database. |
Ha-ha! Silly fool! There is no band but Led Zeppelin! |
You betrayed the singular, absurdly fantastically egotistically-driven existence of the farcical Moody Noobs!  Now they'll never let you back in!
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The Rock
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 21:35 |
chamberry wrote:
We barely get "thank you" when we add prog bands to the site, but when one prog related or proto-prog band is added then we get flamed for it.
The special collabs are adding prog bands every week. Celebrate those addition instead of doing the opposite for non prog bands.
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Agreed!
All additions I agree with,the more we have to choose from,the better.
I never flame no one for adding bands,but for not adding!  Anyway this band deseves it,big time:Golden Earring
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What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop"
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Man With Hat
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 22:34 |
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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The T
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 22:36 |
I would say: let's add everything our readers and contributors think is prog... a good percentage of them I mean (off course, if some PA member thinks Papa Roach is prog, we have to stop him)....
But when a lot of PA readers and, therefore, Prog-fans, agree something is prog, that should be enough...
I think with Zeppelin justice has been made... And I DON'T like Zeppelin... But I respect them, and I know they were influential....
Now is time for Manzarek....
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The Rock
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 22:48 |
Hi,
I think most if not all bands on PA deserves to be in.
But I firmly believe that Golden Earring should be in.Most of their albums recorded between 1968 and 1977,were either 100% prog or had a lot of prog elements on.
Long tracks,keys,organ,synth,sax,flute,ect...not to mention Supersister's keyboardist Robert Stips with them for a few albums.
Lots of complicated elements,guitar and keys intertwined with some flute and sax.
People remembers them for their 2 hits Radar Love and Twilight Zone,but there is much more to them then those 2 simple songs,well not that simple actually.
So please bring GOLDEN EARRING to PA!
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What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop"
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