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Yukorin
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 19:46 | |||||||||
Very interested to get hold of this now! Thanks BV!
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listennow801
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:04 | |||||||||
lol! Thank you darling, but I'm afraid this las is already [well!] spoken for... ;)
[btw, 'mon' is for male [as in mon cher], female is 'ma'][pedantic jeez louise!][note: laugh here][that in case my immensely subtle sense of humour evades your awareness my love... ;)
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:06 | |||||||||
Too heartbroken for words ma Cher! 'Sides me French is bleedin' shocking
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listennow801
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:08 | |||||||||
man, just listening to Lard Free's self titled '73 lp as it's been a while.. this is frigging AMAZING! Anyone who doesn't know this MUST do so! Anyone who does, please share yr opine...
hmm, i guess this should rather be in the RIO thread.. or maybe we shld start an 'avant-prog' one...? Edited by listennow801 - November 21 2006 at 21:10 |
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:11 | |||||||||
Have the first 2 Lard Free C and yes they are largely forgotten but completely essential. Kinda like Faust meets Heldon
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listennow801
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:14 | |||||||||
Yea!
Now, shouldn't I have just expected it from you mon cher? so utterly tasteful my good boy is!
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listennow801
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:17 | |||||||||
lol!
mine too, i just happen to know that because i use the phrase so much mesef - Edited by listennow801 - November 28 2006 at 05:28 |
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avestin
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:17 | |||||||||
Have the 1st Lard free and very much love it!!
I am going through Laser's Edge and found some interesting stuff there - Semool, Flamen Dialis and Pyramid. Edited by avestin - November 21 2006 at 21:18 |
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Apsalar
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 00:34 | |||||||||
^^^ I have that Pyramid album, on CD version of course as the original version is quite hard to find. It is a decent album (though not amazing), just one single track (33mins) consisting of some very spaced out Krautrock jams. You should also check out the band Cozmic Corridors which came from the same infamous pyramid label. You should be able to pick it up for pretty cheap if you are interested.
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avestin
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 00:36 | |||||||||
I have Pyramid on mp3's and Cozmic as well. Like them both, and they are indeed cheap but not on the top of my list.
DO you know Semool? Also listened to Flamen and liked it as well. Thanks Yuko and Claire. Edited by avestin - November 22 2006 at 00:36 |
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Apsalar
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 00:42 | |||||||||
Check RIO thread for the Semool comments. Yes also had a listen to the Flamen, and it as very good album, I sure it rate quite poorly at one site, but they are known for the harsh reviews. Definitely and album which is going to receive a little attention soon; once I have shifted through all this new stuff coming in. I don't know why Cozmic really hits the spot of with me, but it is a much better album that the efforts of pyramid |
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 05:14 | |||||||||
Are you chaps familiar with this: http://curved-air.com/?paged=2 A few underground classics getting a mention/appraisal |
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 05:24 | |||||||||
Saw this going cheap(ish) when it was released an' have been kicking myself for not getting it. Anyone have a copy and is it worth the trouble? (bearing in mind it's a Spalax release ). Here's a bit of spiel from forcedexposure: A three CD box with excellent 56 page booklet dedicated to the music of France that was initially fueled by the Revolt of '68, with one CD dedicated to each decade since. Some material is commonly available, much of it is not; the first CD covers the seventies (1969-77) and features some pretty mind-blowing stuff from the peak years of free-rock cacophony. The 1st CD features the following (an * indicates previously unreleased material, or least unavailable on CD): Jacques Dudon (*, classic freak out guitar mania from '69), Red Noise, Ame Son(*), Gong, Dashiell Hedayat, Catharsis, Contrepoint (*, primitive free jazz), Lard Free, Dagon(*, great progressive psych from 1972 by this undocumented & legendary group), Fille Qui Mousse (*, live track from 72!), Mahogany Brain, Majhun(*), Jac Berrocal & Musik Ensemble (*, brilliant space-improv alternate take from his debut album for Futura in 1973), Schizo (*, pre-Heldon group featuring Richard Pinhas, doing an early 7"-only version of 'Le Voyageur' -- historic psychedelic rock with spoken text by Gilles Deleuze), Oedipe (*, undocumented Canterbury style from '76)& Metal Urbain. The 2nd CD covers the eighties (1977-90) and a significant New Wave cadence starts to abound, featuring: Camizole (*, pretty wild associated of Etron Fou), Heldon(*, live from '78), Le Grand Nébuleux et ses Laveurs de Consciences (*, crazy electric jazz fusion from '78), Etron Fou, At et Technique (*), Jean-Marc Foussat (*, strange improv from '81), Vidéo Aventures, Kas Product, Fall of Saigon (*, YMG-ish synth pop pleasure from '81), Les I (*), Tanit (*), Pascal Comelade (*), Clair Obscure, Dazibao(*), Alto Bruit (*), Cosmic Wurst & Catalogue (*, live from '90). The third CD covers the nineties (1991-97) -- some okay stuff and some rather dire industrial rock material as well -- and features: Urban Sax, Jacques Dudon, M.K.B., Corman et Tuscadu, Francois Robert Lloyd, Vox Populi (*), Ulan Bator, Prime Time Victim Show, Alpes Patrice Moullet, Atta Sexden, Cape Fear, Ashtray Hearts, Viellistic Orchestra, Nicrik, Jean-Francoise Pauvros(*), Osaka Bondage (*) & Sun Plexus (*). |
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Apsalar
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 05:43 | |||||||||
Yep that page is a classic, though the post are becoming less frequent these days. That Moolah album is a classic in my eyes, others might not be as excited. Moolah’s “Woe Ye Demons Possessed” originally released in 1974. This album is absolutely amazing, and its no wonder why its on the NWW list. Here’s a write up over at Acquarius records that shared my enthuisam: YESS!!! Ohmigod, ohmigod, ohmigod! Those are direct quotes from
Allan the day he discovered, totally out of the blue, that this album
had been reissued on cd by the Japanese label EM Records (same folks
who put out the Symphony of the Birds reish reviewed elsewhere this
list). Kerry and Andee were both in the office that day and can attest
that Allan just about jumped out of his skin, his voice positively
yelping with excitement. And now we’re ALL going ohmigod, ohmigod too
since the box from Japan that Allan ordered arrived and Moolah is among
us. Good luck finding these in stock, but lord knows if you enjoy this then track it down and pay your dues!!! Here’s a little treat from the back cover: “by the mystic fire the whirlwind . . . . . . !” “look the dark clouds |
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 05:44 | |||||||||
Seemingly much better article here on the old 30ans albeit in French. Avec great pictures! http://paris70.free.fr/agitrock.htm |
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Apsalar
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 05:46 | |||||||||
That has some real rare gems on there, I think it would be worth it even for the documentation. A lot of those band elude me, but from the ones I recognizes it looks like something to be desired for. What exactly is a Spalax release? |
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 05:49 | |||||||||
...this being the most disturbing (with an honorary mention to Ame Son) |
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Apsalar
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 05:52 | |||||||||
For those who cannot read French this translation should be a little help, well at least for me.
It is the name of the compilation of French rock'n'roll underground carried out by Gilles YEPREMIAN and exit in a box of 3 CD on label SPALAX.
For Gilles, the release in France was May 68 like the war of Vietnam
could be it in the USA. At the end of the Sixties, it meets, in the
Parisian concert halls, of people like Gabriel Ibos, who will create
later Vamp Records then Spalax, or Henri-Jean Enu leader of the Fille
group Who Foams and founder with fire Gilles February of one of the
very first reviews underground Frenchwomen, the Umbrella. Gilles
Yéprémian holds the musical heading of the Umbrella. Then it organizes
concerts on Paris and becomes the Bacon manager Free, the group of
Gilbert Artman. It will also deal with Kominern, Urban Sax, Catalogue,
Urbi FIAT, Quad Sax. It will make turn to France Third World War, and
Pink Fairies, two English groups among most committed politically. I
remember Pink Fairies in particular, with their insane beater with half
Twink, which lived with a Belgian. They often played saturdays with
Portobello, on a waste ground close to West Way. Among the 54 artists who are on this compilation: Jacques DUDON, who walked some of the way a bit of a walk with Hog Farm, this community of freaks American right come from the experiments of Ken Kesey (Acid test). Its first group was Blues Bag. They played the Pop Club of Jose Artur in May 68 during the riots, and festival of Biot after Franck Zappa. Besides one finds Jacques on compiles for another piece recorded in 1992 RED NOISE, with Patrick Vian, the son of Boris, and John Livengood who will join PLANETARIUM thereafter. They recorded an album into 70, “Teals-Locheres” for the Futura label of Gerard Terronès. HEART ITS was initially a group which played in the rallys of the beautiful districts, the “Primativ', then they became “Expression” into 67, at the moment of the psychedelic explosion. White Marc and Patrick Fontaine then met Daevid Allen, which had just left Soft Machine and they played together from 67 to 69 under the name of Banana Moon, in the Balearic Islands and in the south of France. At that time, there were relatively few groups and they easily found work in the boxes of the Mediterranean coast for which it was larger “In”. It is as like that as Soft Machine, whose music did not age, was found to play for a part of Picasso, “the Devil drawn by the Tail” with St Tropez into 68. It was also the time when Ibiza was a destination very run in the underground medium (see “More”, the film of Schroeter Barbet spaniel, with the music of Pink Floyd), before the arrival of the charters and the concrete. People as Nico attended the island as of the Fifties (and it is there that she died into 88). But let us return to our heroes. After Banana Moon, Marc and Patrick founded Ame Its into 70. They recorded an album for BYG, the label of Jean Karakos, “Catalyses” and played festivals of Amougies and Biot. Marc played thereafter with Jean-Louis Aubert, and Alain Renaud (you will be able to meet them besides with the tennis of the garden of Luxembourg!). After two albums D '' Ame songs' in the Eighties, Marc for submission to leaving a new album soon. http://www.ameson.net/ The history of GONG is indissociable among that, attractive, of Daevid ALLEN and Gilli SMYTH. The group was formed into 69 by Daevid, after Soft Machine and Banana Moon, and Gilli with Didier Malherbe (alias “Bloomdido Bad de Grass”, flute, sax), Christian Tritsch, Rachid Houari, then Pip Pyle, Pierre Moerlen, Mike Howlett, Tim Blake, was entered to Gong like roadie and which formed Crystal Machine
thereafter… Their first recording was the music of film of Jerome
Laperrousaz, “Continental Circus” into 70. They occurred with the
festival of Amougies,
and remained in France until 73, where they recorded four delirious
albums for BYG, of which famous “the Electric Camembert cheese”, and
one with Dashiell Hedayat. GONG it was more than one group, it was a family, a community living in the countryside, with beautiful chicks with their dresses gipsies and their hair with henné, and of the children. Then they migrated on other side of the English Channel, signed with Virgin, and were joined by Steve Hillage. Daevid Allen and its gang always prevail, for example in the festivals hippie as in Stonehenge. More on the epopee of the tribe Gong, the site of the 'Gong Appreciation Society (GAS): http://www.planetgong.co.uk Listen to an extract of “Poem Gong” in Dashiell HEDAYAT was initially made known as translator of Dylan and Tolkien, then it recorded two albums: the first under the name of Melmoth had as a title “the front of intoxications” and second the “Obsolete one” with the collaboration of Gong and William Burroughs, and from which the title “Chrysler results” (pink). Since Dashiell its career of writer with success under his true name of Jack-Alain Leger continued.
BACON FREE
was formed into 70 by the beater Gilbert Artman. In formed also part
Philippe Bolliet (known as “Bolle”), François Mativet, Jean-Jacques
Miette and Domenica Triloff. They recorded 3 albums, then Gilbert
trained URBAN SAX,
group of saxophones making of the repetitive music being able to
comprise to 53 members, and always in activity. They played in all
kinds of places and events, as in factories, at the top of the castle
of Versailles, the world expo of Vancouver or the inauguration of the
Arch of Defense. Gilbert also took part in other groups like VIDEO
ADVENTURES, also with Domenica Grimaud (ex Camizole) and Monique Alba
or CATALOGUES with Jean-François Pauvros and Jac Berrocal, present also
on compiles. DAGON is one of the legendary groups Parisian underground of the beginning of the Seventies. Jean-Pierre Lentin, of the first team of Current formed part of it, like Patrick Vian after Red Noise. They were characterized by particularly delirious settings in scene at the time of their concerts. They formed also part of the transitory FLIP of Michel Muzac and Komintern. Another journalist/musician was Henri-Jean Enu, founder of the “Umbrella” and of GIRL WHO FOAMS, present on compiles with a piece recorded with a concert with the FAC Dauphine into 72 (I was there), with grinds light shows.
MAHOGANY BRAIN was formed by the poet/writer/scenario writer Michel BULTEAU. It describes them as follows: “Mahogany
Brain was a phantom group. Only one concert in Lucernaire during summer
70. It was also a laboratory where the gang of the electric poets could
play of goods towers to the madness”. MAHJUN, the group of Jean-Louis of the same name knew two periods, one rather committed politically, the other more folk and opened with various influences. They lived in community. Mahjun is a Moroccan receipt of cake to the sh*t. Jac BERROCAL, actor, poet, trompetist is a large nomad of the Parisian scene. It formed “Musik Ensemble” into 71, then “Rock' N Roll Station” with legendary Vince Taylor. Then it knocked about the world and worked with all kinds of people like the poet Jacques Doyen, the guitarist Jean-François Pauvros, the beaters Jacques Thollot, Gilbert Artman, within groups as Catalogue, MKB, Bad servant boys in France, Nurse with wound in England, Telectu in Portugal or James Chance in New York!
Richard PINHAS has been another central figure for 30 years and its
influence is still very present, including among the younger
generation. I knew it since 1967 places Victor Hugo in 16th whereas it
was one of only in Paris to raise a cut Dylan/Hendrix. In 68 it formed
Blues Convention, in the line of British Blues with Klaus Basquiz,
future singer of Magma. In 71, it was Schizo, with Patrick Gauthier,
George Grumblatt, Coco and Pierrot Roussel, Richard with the guitar and
with being synthé. They recorded two individual, the first with the
singer Olivier Pamela. The second, present on compiles, left in 500
specimens and was distributed free, produced by the actor Matthieu
Carrière. He was called “the Traveller” and consisted of a text of
Nietzche called by the philosopher Gilles Deleuze, then very known for
his “Anti-Oedipus” coécrit with the psychoanalyst Felix Guattari. When
Schizo separated into 72, Richard formed HELDON:
it was another association between the experimental electronic music,
of the literary connections and an anarchistic philosophical base. The
name of the group came from a novel of the writer of anticipation,
Norman Spinrad, who was a major influence at Pinhas. But Heldon was
also a group of Rock' Roll, with Alain Renaud
(guitar), Didier Batard (ex Tryptique) with low, François Auger with
the battery, Patrick Gauthier with the keyboards and thereafter of
other musicians like Alain Bellaiche. Are also present on compiles: Catharsis, Counterpoint, Oedipus, Urbain Metal, Camizole, the Large Nebulous one, Insane Leloublan, I, Fall of Saigon, Pascal Comelade, Clearly Obscure Etron, Kas Product, François Robert Lloyd and well of others…
Several groups could not be included, for various reasons. Among them, Crouille Hammer, with Pierre Clémenti and Jean-Pierre Kalfon, Chico Magnetic Band, Crium Delirium, Catherine Ribeiro + the Alps (Patrice Moullet), Comintern, Jacques Thollot, Albert Marcoeur,…
Pop Groups of the Seventies - Brigitte Fontaine and Areski with Art Together of Chicago of which the pieces “As with the Radio” and 'Mister the station master” accompanied our first joints - Magma - Grass Red (with Jean-Louis.)- ZNR (ex Barricades) of Marseilles with Hector Zazou and Joseph Rabble - |
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 05:57 | |||||||||
Spalax is a French re-issue label (with many classic French and German artists) who share the same attention to detail with the artwork as Musea. Typically expect no information (except their other releases), a botched facsimile of the LP sleeve processed through a broken photocopier, and a 'Made in EU' stamp obscuring minor details like band line-ups |
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 22 2006 at 06:14 | |||||||||
Always loved this picture of Richard Pinhas. Such a handsome geezer! Looks like he's just wandered off from his yacht after finishing a days work with Alex deRenzy at some 70s Parisian penthouse and then caught up with the cameraman (P. Gauthier) and the 'financial backer' for some Beaujolais and After Eight mints later |
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