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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 18:18
Also (I've finally decided to make the effor and listen to all the streaming songs...)
I just came across Don Calloabaro (or whatever...) and It first struck me as math metal, and I was confused as to why it was in thsi catagory. So I clicked on to their page to read what was written about them ,hoping there would be something about why they were included in this section and not prog metal, but no. Their paragraph calls them math-metal as well.
 
So my question is, what is the link between post-rock and math metal, if any. Why is this band here?
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 18:25
Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

So, there are only 23 bands listed in this genre on the archives.

Are there many others that we know about?
and if so..why haven't they been added?


Yes. There are tons of post-rock bands that aren't in this site. Some of them are post-rock, but aren't really progarchives material. Some of them are too poppy others are too ambient or they aren't clearly post-rock ect. Another problem is the lack of information. Most of this bands prefer to live in the shadows giving very little to none info of their sound, of who they are, discography, band photos and other things like that wich makes it hard for us too write a decent bio or add their albums because of it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 18:30
oh yea... I noticed that with GY!BE. i could barley find ANYTHING on them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 18:37
Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

Also (I've finally decided to make the effor and listen to all the streaming songs...)
I just came across Don Calloabaro (or whatever...) and It first struck me as math metal, and I was confused as to why it was in thsi catagory. So I clicked on to their page to read what was written about them ,hoping there would be something about why they were included in this section and not prog metal, but no. Their paragraph calls them math-metal as well.
 
So my question is, what is the link between post-rock and math metal, if any. Why is this band here?


They are math metal, but as you can see we don't have a math metal genre. I think they are in post-rock because math rock is a close relative to post-rock. Hella is another math rock band and they are in the Avant-garde genre.
I don't know alot from the genre, but I believe the band Slint where the fathers of math rock and coincidentally most of the post-rock bands are influenced by this band. The missing link? I think so.

Excuse my babbling.Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 18:42
Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

oh yea... I noticed that with GY!BE. i could barley find ANYTHING on them.


GY!BE has alot of info around the internet compared to a band we're trying to add, Daturah.

Here's the info their website has to offer:

DATURAH
is an instrumental five-piece from Frankfurt/Germany playing some kind of ambient noise rock.

Members:
Mathias - guitar, sounds // Flo - guitar // Patrick - drums
Benni - bass, synth // Seb - samples, synth

Additional Members:
Raul - live visuals


And that's it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 18:43
Thats awesome, haha
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 19:03
Really? I think they're mocking us.Angry

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 19:07

I was just listening to The Velvet Underground, that's pretty experimental/post-rockish to my ears.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 19:21
I know I'll sound ignorant, but I still haven't listened to The Velvet Underground...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 20:54
yep they were one of the first few rock acts to heaviliy incorporate avant garde elements into their music, though they always wrote such amazing pop songs like Sunday Morning, Femme Fatale etc
 
Have been listening to sound samples of Tarentel and yeah they're really good, their current stuff is v heavily percussive and loopish, bit like This Heat.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 20:55
Have anybody heard to They dont sleep? They aren't on this site but there's no doubt they're post rock. They are as post rock as yes is symph. Look for their Space site.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2006 at 21:15
Well my dear friends... I live in Chile I mean the end of South America so you can imagine how hard it's for me to find/buy music... Thanks to PA I found this new stuff called Experimental/POst Rock so I began to buy CDs in order to enjoy the music of this fabulous bands...

There are really new and good stuff in most of the albums that I got. Exquisite compositions, weird athmospheres, awsome lyrics (specially on Sigur Rós albums) and a real compromise ti take music beyond the actual frontiers...

RIght now I've got in my colection:

GODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR
-F#A#o
-Yanqui U.X.O
I really love this bands because almost every song is a chaotic epical full of sadness and dark athmospheres...

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65daysofstatic
-The Fall of Math
It's the first album that I buy of this band. Very electronic and very weird too. It's one of my last acquisitons so give a few weeks to understand it...

A SILVER MT. ZION
-He has left us alone but shafts of light sometimes grace the corner of our rooms
-Horses in the Sky
Really good stuff, very romantic and nostalgic, full of epical moments... Totally recommended...

RED SPAROWES
-At the soundless Dawn
One of the most amazing surprises that I heard in years. This album is totally amazing from first to last track. Powerful guitars, and compositons full of anger and angst...

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MOGWAI
-Come on die young
-Rock action
-Happy songs for happy people
-Mr. Beast
Really good stuff. Great band, honestly. Every album it's a great surprise, full of memorable and sad songs. Great work on keyboards/synths and a constant tendence to make mini-epics...

SIGUR ROS
-Agaetis Byrjun
-Ba Ba Ti Ki Di Do (EP)
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-Takk...
Like I said before, great lyrircs and also great compositions. Maybe SR it's one of the most "famous" bands of this stuff but their albums are simply wonderful, specially my favouriote Agaetis Byrjun...

EXPLOSIONS IN THE SKY
-Friday Night Lights OST
-The Rescue
Maybe I still don't get the stuff of EITS but it's one of my least favourites (I need to find more of their albums)...

DON CABALLERO
-What burns never returns
-American Don
-World class listening problem
Another niche surprise. Every album it's really a challenge even for prog rock fans. With some delicate inffluences of Crimson any of their albums will make you feel very-very uncomfortable...

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TORTOISE
-It's all around you
Unfortunately it's the only Tortoise album that I have. Great stuff, for some moments very close to fusion and minimalism...

ULVER
-Kveldssanger
-Perdition City
Unfortunately I don't own more Ulver albums. This two are great but totally different. Kveldssanger it's dark, medieval and classical. Perdition City it's full of electronics and samplers (well, it's "mucis to an interior film") and totally sad... Great stuff, really...

Well, that's all... If we are looking for the next prog music, here it is...

Peace & love...
... E N E L B U N K E R...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2006 at 11:46
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:


Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:


Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I want to try out some Mono.Recommendations?

 

Try One More Step And You Die for the amazing Com ().
Indeed. It's my favourite Mono album (haven't heard the debut though).
Indeed! A great album. I like it more than the follow up. I don't have their debut nor their new album, but I've heard alot of people talking about Mono's You Are There being one of the best albums of the year from the post-rock side of music. I'll be buying it with some christmas money.To DamianC:Sorry man. I don't know of a band that sounds like 65daysofstatic. If you find one then feel free to spread the word. I would like to hear it.

    

Good news friend I was told about a band similar to 65days. They way t hey explained it to me was they sound like a heavier version of 65days and they are called "maybeshewill" www.maybeshewill.net
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2006 at 11:59
Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

So, there are only 23 bands listed in this genre on the archives.

Are there many others that we know about?
and if so..why haven't they been added?

As chamberry already pointed out, there are TONS of bands still waiting to be added. When we first started out earlier this year, there were only a few bands in this section, so I think we've done pretty well, considering how little information is available.

However, should any of you guys want to speed up the process, you can always write biographies for bands that have already been accepted. You can monitor our progress here:

http://www.progtology.com/home/progarchives/postrockchart.xhtml

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2006 at 20:49
Added Set Fire To Flames. Anyone who likes A Silver Mt. Zion, Godspeed might wan't to check them out.

Here's a little info on them:

Initially the idea was to gather a group of folks together in a members montreal apartment and record as much as they could over a five day period. As set fire to flames explains, ”...[we wanted] to conduct the whole five day recording session like a series of experiments… to get lost in the sound as it was actually happening… to make the whole recording an exploded intense event… to push tolerance levels and limitations with a group of people sonically… to become shut-ins… to operate on no sleep/confinement/ intoxication… some of us were interested in seeing what would actually happen if we attempted to record improvised drones and textures under those conditions… and what impact that might have on yr. head… how individual/collective tension would play out… and what the end result would sound like… so a lot of experimentation with tolerance, repetition and duration… drones…”

http://www.alien8recordings.com/artists/11/Set-Fire-to-Flames

Sounds interesting? Then check them out!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2006 at 20:59
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Added Set Fire To Flames. Anyone who likes A Silver Mt. Zion, Godspeed might wan't to check them out.

 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2006 at 22:17
I don't have the link at hand right now, but in MySpace you can find a Japanese band called STILL LIFE IN THE ATTIC: they play a RIO-meets-postrock kind of prog that I find turly amazing, They should be listed here in PA.

    Check them out and see if you enjoy them as well!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2006 at 22:29
So( sorry I'm being noobish her, but I'm new to this genre and just love everything to death, I love the music, the sounds, the idea, and even the culture and people of it! but i still feel like I don't "get" a lot of things in it) are there bands that are definitely post rock and exerimental/drone bands that are accepted into that genre, but are prog enough to be in the prog archive's version of that genre?
 
Like... can a band be undoubtably post rock, but not be accepted here because their brand of post rock isn't proggy enough?
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2006 at 22:31
That sounds like a very interesting mix Cesar. I really like the RIO and Avant-garde genre and of course post-rock as well. I'll look for them and check them out.

Thanks for the info.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2006 at 22:33
Just discovered GY!BE this past week.
It's brilliant, atmospheric epic.
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