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bryantm3 
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 Posted: October 26 2006 at 03:46 |
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someone explain to me: why can led zeppelin be added to progarchives and underworld cannot? i believe it's because they're more popular. that's it.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: October 26 2006 at 04:48 |
I don't remember Underworld ever being proposed.
Why not start a new thread in this section suggesting them, and see what the reaction is like.
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mystic fred
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Posted: October 26 2006 at 04:59 |
 bryantm3 wrote:
someone explain to me: why can led zeppelin be added to progarchives and underworld cannot? i believe it's because they're more popular. that's it. |
Led Zep added to PA ?????news to me! 
bryantm3 -
if you have knowledge of Underworld and exactly why they have a strong case to be included any further info would be well appreciated! 
if anyone believes a band they know about has been missed (a recording group with a discography) tell us why!
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Chus
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Posted: October 26 2006 at 11:30 |
crimson thing wrote:
Actually, Tony, I've just finished Keith Shadwick's tome...er, I mean coffee table book...on Led Zeppelin ("The story of a band and their music").....and I made a mental note of a quote by Page that (at one point) at least, they did consider themselves to be proggy......shame I didn't follow up the mental note with a yellow post-it sticker, but I'm not wading through...er, I mean reading the book again to find it....
FWIW, I reckon Zep should be here; they're more inventive than most bands, used funny instruments (including the Holy Mellotron, and Lol Creme's "gizmotron"), were different from the vast majority of their contemporaries, produced music influenced by a wide variety of styles (blues, yes, but also folk, rock, jazz & even a bit of country), and had a sense of humour to boot....and I've never understood why blues influences per se should debar a band from PA.... 
To be fair, Shadwick's book is actually very informative, although admittedly heavy going with lots of dense text. My biggest criticism would be that, although published in 2005, it stops abruptly at the moment of Bonham's death (this is deliberate & justified by the author as solely a book about the band). Nevertheless, I'd like to have seen how Shadwick saw Plant, Page & Jones's subsequent careers as compared to Zep's.
And how come JPJ's solo stuff isn't listed here? I'd have thought albums such as Zooma would tick most of the boxes for inclusion? |
Yes, John was actually the most talented of the band, but that's my opinion... He said once that King Crimson was having an influence on him and, although I haven't yet heard his solo projects I bet they are more progressive than Led Zeppelin.
This is the way I see Led Zep... a very ordinary rock 'n roll band most likely to have pioneered heavy metal, and which on occasions would compose some weird folksy music or fusions with ethnic music... a bit of keyboards here and there.... But I think we're missing something here: ethnic elements, as opposed to academic, does not a progressive band make, and even when we have "prog folk", Jethro Tull was not mainly just folk with rock and blues, they also included academic attributes to their music, either jazz and classical, so there's more to it than just the idea of including a zithar or a banjo on a rock album; therefore I think they shouldn't be included but in prog-related perhaps, but nothing more.
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bryantm3
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Posted: October 26 2006 at 11:53 |
mystic fred wrote:
Led Zep added to PA ?????news to me!
bryantm3 -
if you have knowledge of Underworld and exactly why they have a strong case to be included any further info would be well appreciated!
if anyone believes a band they know about has been missed (a recording group with a discography) tell us why!
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i did submit them, look lower on the forums. apparently they're too 'dance like' to be progressive. if led zeppelin isn't too 'rock like' to be progressive, why is UW too 'dance like'? brian eno and kraftwork are on this website!
Edited by bryantm3 - October 26 2006 at 11:55
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Uther
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Posted: January 10 2007 at 22:16 |
Hi to everyone
Well, a lot of things happened when i was out. I read Led Zep were added.
Thanx to all the people whose supported this addition & the adm staff for the patience 
see ya!
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: January 11 2007 at 00:30 |
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Since they have been added I think this thread can be closed.
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