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Points: 20030 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2006 at 08:52
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Yes, I also had a 386SX, although it wasn't my personal machine, but the family one, but I used it most.

Ah yes, Bob is right, PASCAL teaches you structure, such as IF/THEN/ELSE/WHILE/FOR statements.

You guys are lucky, I was tried to be taught PERL.  Horrible language!

I don't know Prolog, but I did do COBOL as well.
My first computing job was with COBOL. I had to amend a batch program, so I printed a listing off and it was about 10" thick. Ah, those were the days!Dead


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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ my first computer was the Commodore C64 ...
 
Mine too! I didn't think you were that old Mike! The C64 was a brilliant machine. There were some great games for that machine and considering that it only had 64k memory, they were quite astounding. I used to write lots of games for myself in Basic - they were very often just little characters moving around the screen.


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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

My first real PC had a vast 120Mb of disk space! I now have 200Gb. That's progress!
 
The progress of disk space always amazes me. When I was a student, I used a PC with a 128MB disk and I had to share it with someone else! I remember just 10 years ago, we bought a very expensive machine with a 20GB disk for the use of the whole department - about 30 people.


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started programming in Coral-66 and DEC assembly language back in the good old days (late 70's),

real programming languages, not like this AJAX crap today!
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48K Spectrum.  Amazing what you could do with it.  Anyone have the "Hobbit" game for Spectrum?
When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

started programming in Coral-66 and DEC assembly language back in the good old days (late 70's),

real programming languages, not like this AJAX crap today!

I have done some coding in mainframe Assembler - Dead
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Points: 2808 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2006 at 11:19
^ having looked again, you may have a point.

Addr Label Instruction Object code[2]


.begin


.org 2048

a_start .equ 3000
2048
ld length,%
2064
be done 00000010 10000000 00000000 00000110
2068
addcc %r1,-4,%r1 10000010 10000000 01111111 11111100
2072
addcc %r1,%r2,%r4 10001000 10000000 01000000 00000010
2076
ld %r4,%r5 11001010 00000001 00000000 00000000
2080
ba loop 00010000 10111111 11111111 11111011
2084
addcc %r3,%r5,%r3 10000110 10000000 11000000 00000101
2088 done: jmpl %r15+4,%r0 10000001 11000011 11100000 00000100
2092 length: 20 00000000 00000000 00000000 00010100
2096 address: a_start 00000000 00000000 00001011 10111000


.org a_start
3000 a:</tt
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Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

[QUOTE=alias10mr]By the way, Bob, have you found some good music to help your child fall asleep? Remember that thread?




Wow, you remembered! I just put on a radio station that plays a lot of ambient music http://www.republicradio.gr/ while I read her stories and then turn it off when it's time to sleep. I don't know if it relaxes her but it relaxes me while I'm reading!
 

That website is still under construction ...

Of course I remembered    , reading stories to our children at bedtime is such a joy and privelege so when a fellow dad needs help it's an honor to step in and give my two cents worth of advice! By the way, what's Greece like, it's on my to-do list of places I want to see .
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Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

    I guess I'm going to have to visit the U.K., so I can understand half of what you guys are talking about.
 
Me too. Smile
 
 
that's the only way you're gonna find out!!!! it's that island mentality...LOL
 
 
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[QUOTE=prog-chick]here's one for the really very grey room.......
woke up this morning, sneezed................and put my back out!!!
I am now wedged in a chair at the desk.........have no idea how to get out of it though..........kids (on holidays) are milking it for all they are worth and the beloved figured ther was no point looking for dinner and has gone to pick up pizza (kids are much impressed!)

So here I am.... aging cripple.....hoping to recover in time for a gig at the weekend.........might need to hire a zimmer at this rate!

 

QUOTE]
 
occupational hazard at our age PT !!!LOL
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Heavyfreight Heavyfreight wrote:

48K Spectrum.  Amazing what you could do with it.  Anyone have the "Hobbit" game for Spectrum?
 
 
I had a 48k spectrum.."you are in a cave.." remember that one?LOL i kept getting lost..
 
 
 
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OK, I've set you off and running on old computers and old computer languages... now let's see what else I can mess with . Middle-age crisis, are you going through it and how has it changed your life! Buy a ferrari or trying to hide the grey? For me ( and I know this is silly! ) it's rediscovering the music of my youth without playing it too loud! But I'd still settle for a Ferrari .
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2006 at 21:24
Originally posted by Heavyfreight Heavyfreight wrote:

At Uni in 1985 they had just got an IBM Prime system and were very proud of it.  It was a main frame with dumb terminals but it meant that about 40 people could work at once.  It filled a plant room and I think that your average desktop PC now has more memory and processing power.  That's progress for you.
 
The other great thing that I remember about our computing building was that it had a Paternoster.  This was an elevator that had a whole chain of carriages that kept moving slowly up one side and down the other and you stepped in and out of the carriages at the correct floors.  We never had any accidents with it (although my mate got stuck trying to go through the basement pit in one of the carriages) but funnily enough Health and Safety banned its use in the early 90's.

You're all going to hate me for saying this but................ you lot are making me feel extremely young! I was only born in '85.






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Originally posted by alias10mr alias10mr wrote:

Middle-age crisis, are you going through it and how has it changed your life! Buy a ferrari or trying to hide the grey?


For me, I guess, it was discovering the noble art of clubbing at Psy-Trance parties at the ripe old age of 40 which has since developed into DJ-ing in chillout rooms to captive blissed-out audiences (next gigs 11th November & 25th November, both in Bristol) - one advantage of my age being it enables me to cross-contaminate by playing seriously chilled out beats & ambient soundscapes, but mixing in Floyd, Ozric Tentacles, Hillage & Gong...

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Originally posted by alias10mr alias10mr wrote:

Middle-age crisis, are you going through it and how has it changed your life! Buy a ferrari or trying to hide the grey?  .
 
I'd prefer a TVR Chimera to a Ferrari.
 
I guess I went through that whole re-evaluating your life thing recently.  I've downsized a bit, sold the house and moved to a bungalow in the country, quit the job and gone self employed, got rid of a load of my posessions. 
 
Well worth doing for me as I was in a rut, not enjoying work and getting depressed.  Now things seem a lot more interesting.  Now I'm pusuing one of my hobbies a lot more; restoring and operating steam engines.  I'm now a steam driver at my local steam railway and recently became their operations director.  All voluntary of course so I'm now quite poor, but money isn't everything.Wink
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2006 at 07:15
Originally posted by heavyfreight the wise heavyfreight the wise wrote:

...money isn't everything




Indeed - in many cases, it only provides a higher standard of unhappiness.

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by heavyfreight the wise heavyfreight the wise wrote:

...money isn't everything




Indeed - in many cases, it only provides a higher standard of unhappiness.
 
Sage words Mr G.
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Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

[QUOTE=prog-chick]here's one for the really very grey room.......
woke up this morning, sneezed................and put my back out!!!
I am now wedged in a chair at the desk.........have no idea how to get out of it though..........kids (on holidays) are milking it for all they are worth and the beloved figured ther was no point looking for dinner and has gone to pick up pizza (kids are much impressed!)

So here I am.... aging cripple.....hoping to recover in time for a gig at the weekend.........might need to hire a zimmer at this rate!

 

QUOTE]
 
occupational hazard at our age PT !!!LOL
 
 
 
 
Ooh, I thought you said "at your age" for a minute there Steve! That would be asking for trouble (but only if p-c could get out of her chair!).
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Points: 20030 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2006 at 07:34
Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

^ having looked again, you may have a point.

Addr Label Instruction Object code[2]
.begin


.org 2048

a_start .equ 3000
2048
ld length,%
2064
be done 00000010 10000000 00000000 00000110
2068
addcc %r1,-4,%r1 10000010 10000000 01111111 11111100
2072
addcc %r1,%r2,%r4 10001000 10000000 01000000 00000010
2076
ld %r4,%r5 11001010 00000001 00000000 00000000
2080
ba loop 00010000 10111111 11111111 11111011
2084
addcc %r3,%r5,%r3 10000110 10000000 11000000 00000101
2088 done: jmpl %r15+4,%r0 10000001 11000011 11100000 00000100
2092 length: 20 00000000 00000000 00000000 00010100
2096 address: a_start 00000000 00000000 00001011 10111000
.org a_start
3000 a:</tt

 
Well, it's obvious to anyone what that bit of code does.
 
Er...
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

^ having looked again, you may have a point.
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<TD><TT>10001000 10000000 01000000 00000010</TT></TD></TR>
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<TD><TT>2076</TT></TD>
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<TD><TT>ld %r4,%r5</TT></TD>
<TD><TT>11001010 00000001 00000000 00000000</TT></TD></TR>
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<TD><TT>2080</TT></TD>
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<TD><TT>ba loop</TT></TD>
<TD><TT>00010000 10111111 11111111 11111011</TT></TD></TR>
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<TD><TT>addcc %r3,%r5,%r3</TT></TD>
<TD><TT>10000110 10000000 11000000 00000101</TT></TD></TR>
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<TD><TT>2088</TT></TD>
<TD><TT>done:</TT></TD>
<TD><TT>jmpl %r15+4,%r0</TT></TD>
<TD><TT>10000001 11000011 11100000 00000100</TT></TD></TR>
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<TD><TT>2092</TT></TD>
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Well, it's obvious to anyone what that bit of code does.

 

Er...


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