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chopper
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20030 |
Posted: October 23 2006 at 13:46 |
You have my sympathies p-c. You just need to get someone to walk up and down on your back, that should sort it out. I'm off to see Anderson and Wakeman tomorrow. My wife reckons they'll finish by 9 as they both need to be tucked up in bed with their cocoa by 10. I reckon they'll stop for a quick game of Countdown in the middle. |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: October 23 2006 at 19:01 |
Ah yes, The Now Show!
I remember The Mary Whitehouse Experience, but I thought it was David Baddiel and the other guy? Hey P-C, don't think I can make it Saturday unfortunately, as I have no possible way of getting there, grrr! I guess I'll try and catch up with you some other time, once I have my car back. |
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alias10mr
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 25 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 218 |
Posted: October 23 2006 at 20:54 |
OK, I've read all 17 pages of this thread ( should've been called The Earl Grey Room ) , I'm up to speed on sheds, Basil and his towers, inexpensive pints and general madness. Now for a little Canadian content from across the pond! Greetings to all of you and I hope I can bring something to this thread. I'm 43, married with 2 kids. I live 40 minutes outside of Montreal. OK, enough about me. My first concert was Pink Floyd in 1974. I've seen Genesis a few times, Queen, Yes,Harmonium ( A rare treat ), Marillion and the list goes on. Most of the complaints about youth and whatever else are generally the same here. By the way, as far as computers go, I studied Fortran, Pascal, and other ancient computer languages in college ( for those who remember those punch cards we used to use... ) and in high school we had one of the first Macs. I'm proud to say I'm still using Apple computers today.
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: October 23 2006 at 20:57 |
^Hey, I studied PASCAL at uni last year!
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alias10mr
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 25 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 218 |
Posted: October 23 2006 at 21:02 |
You mean they're still using that programming language... It's been so long... |
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: October 23 2006 at 21:08 |
Probably not, we were taught it as a sort of introduction to computer programing, didnt make much sense to me to use a dead language.
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alias10mr
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 25 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 218 |
Posted: October 23 2006 at 21:14 |
a dead language That's when you know you're getting old . |
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: October 23 2006 at 21:19 |
^In computer terms, and as far as I know, it certainly is.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: October 23 2006 at 21:34 |
It is dead, I also studied Pascal, but at College.
It's not much use nowadays. |
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: October 24 2006 at 03:24 |
Oh yes - I distinctly remember Fortran & punch cards @ college in 1979 ; I seem to remember before that, we had a BBCB at school on which we learned BASIC (but all we really wanted to do was play that fantastic tennis game....)
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: October 24 2006 at 03:30 |
Oh, PC, you have my sympathies - I'm lucky in that I've never had the misfortune to put the old back out, but a friend did manage to slip a disc whilst brushing his teeth And as far as The Mary Whitehouse Experience is concerned, I have two words for you... |
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Neil
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 04 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: October 24 2006 at 06:07 |
Edited by Heavyfreight - October 24 2006 at 06:09 |
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When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Neil
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 04 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: October 24 2006 at 06:11 |
I learnt Pascal at uni as well. I was told that it was the best language to teach good structured programming techniques because you couldn't jump back and forth through the code but had to plan it out properly. Perhaps that's why they still use it.
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When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Bob Greece
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 1823 |
Posted: October 24 2006 at 06:37 |
I used to teach Pascal 10 years ago. It might be an old language but fundamentally things don't change much. At the bottom it's all IF-THEN-ELSE-WHILE-FOR... and you can learn that as well in Pascal as you can in Java or any other new language.
If you think Pascal is bad just be grateful you didn't learn Prolog. I used to teach that as well. Edited by Bob Greece - October 24 2006 at 06:38 |
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alias10mr
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 25 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 218 |
Posted: October 24 2006 at 06:49 |
Did not study Prolog but heard various gripes from others who were much more advanced than I was. By the way, Bob, have you found some good music to help your child fall asleep? Remember that thread? |
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Bob Greece
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 1823 |
Posted: October 24 2006 at 06:55 |
That website is still under construction ... Edited by Bob Greece - October 24 2006 at 06:57 |
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chopper
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20030 |
Posted: October 24 2006 at 08:02 |
Blimey, I also remember punch cards, but that was before I started in IT.
I learned to program in QBasic on a ZX81! It was a nightmare with up to four functions on each key and it had a massive 1K memory!
My first real PC had a vast 120Mb of disk space! I now have 200Gb. That's progress!
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21206 |
Posted: October 24 2006 at 08:09 |
^ my first computer was the Commodore C64 ... my first PC I can't even remember, I think it was a 386 with a whopping 1MB of memory.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: October 24 2006 at 08:20 |
Yes, I also had a 386SX, although it wasn't my personal machine, but the family one, but I used it most.
Ah yes, Bob is right, PASCAL teaches you structure, such as IF/THEN/ELSE/WHILE/FOR statements. You guys are lucky, I was tried to be taught PERL. Horrible language! I don't know Prolog, but I did do COBOL as well. |
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Neil
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 04 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: October 24 2006 at 08:47 |
At Uni in 1985 they had just got an IBM Prime system and were very proud of it. It was a main frame with dumb terminals but it meant that about 40 people could work at once. It filled a plant room and I think that your average desktop PC now has more memory and processing power. That's progress for you.
The other great thing that I remember about our computing building was that it had a Paternoster. This was an elevator that had a whole chain of carriages that kept moving slowly up one side and down the other and you stepped in and out of the carriages at the correct floors. We never had any accidents with it (although my mate got stuck trying to go through the basement pit in one of the carriages) but funnily enough Health and Safety banned its use in the early 90's.
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