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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Well Jimbo, if I look at the Prog Archives homepage the last weeks, it's flooded by Iron Maiden reviews and many other prog-related, prog-folk and Art-rock bands, it seems that many reviewers are more pleased to write about these bands ... and you can expect a huge Led Zep flood within a few weeks
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Jimbo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 28 2005 Location: Helsinki Status: Offline Points: 2818 |
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Yes, this is true, but I don't see your point... We should let these bands in because they're well known and prog fans like them? ![]() Also, you may not think so yourself, but everytime we add another hugely popular supposedly "prog-related" group to the archives we're drifting away from our main goal IMO -- which should be to give information about the lesser known prog bands in the archives, not to praise well known "prog-related" albums that every music enthusiast already knows. We spend too much time discussing possible prog-related additions (roughly half of the posts in the Suggest New Bands/Artists section seem to be about prog-related additions), and not nearly enough time discussing unknown, real prog bands. This is why your symphonic prog thread is excellent, Erik! It is becoming increasingly difficult to defend the band-addition policy here. I almost laughed when I saw someone suggesting Faith No More to be added here. After thinking about it for a while, it started to make just as much sense as this Zep thing though. The bar is becoming so low that eventually we will have Sabbath, Cream, The Who, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Metallica, David Bowie here -- not a big concern for me, but calling this progarchives after that might be a bit cumbersome. What do we actually gain by adding these bands to the archives? Almost all members here have already heard them, so it isn't about giving exposure to these groups -- I have never met a prog fan who hasn't heard Led Zep f. ex. As you already stated, the frontpage will be even more flooded with albums not done by prog bands. Is this a good thing on a prog site? Everytime a Led Zep review appears on the homepage, it will push a good, genuine prog album out of the frontpage into the archives. It might take weeks before someone opens that page again. Oh well.. I know that this is what M@X wants and it will not change my life in any way, but I honestly think we need to set our priorities straight, and not bother with prog-related additions for a while. Rant over, thanks for listening! ![]() |
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andu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
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serious suggestion: the home page could be dedicated to displaying reviews for only prog issues, and there could be a different page for prog-related reviews. and as prog comes from "progressive rock", i think that would also be the place for fusion.
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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The reason why I don't have plans to make a Led Zep bio in short time (if I am allowed to do this) is because I prefer to write about symphonic prog bands that deserve it to be mentioned or to be added so in fact I agree with you Jimbo. I also agree that we are way too much discussing on the Forum instead of writing or making progress with developments on Prog Archives. Honestly, Andu his proposal is not a bad one
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Philéas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419 |
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If M@X says they're going to be added, I accept it (after all, Deep
Purple and Queen are here, why not complete the circle?), but I'd
rather see both the Prog Related and Proto-Prog categories remove. My
arguments can be found in a thread suggesting the addition of Cream, currently on page 4 in this section of the forum.
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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To clarify, M@x has confirmed the may be added, he's not adding them. While many have pushed for their addition, i don't think anyone has actually stepped up to add them yet.
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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I am willing to write a bio and add Led Zep to Prog Archives but not now, perhaps early November when I have more time and no other priorities. If anybody wants to write a bio and add Led Zep earlier, it's OK to me
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The Wizard ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7341 |
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I would love to write a bio for Led Zep!
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Go ahead The Wizard, perhaps I can deliver some fine facts and quotes if you like, I have lots of specials and interviews about Led Zep in several Dutch and English magazines and books.
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ResidentAlien ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 17 2006 Status: Offline Points: 441 |
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*Sigh*
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Can who ever write the biography please ensure it includes details of the pro related aspects of the band, i.e. it explains what it is about LZ's music which is prog related.
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Eetu Pellonpaa ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 17 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 4828 |
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^ I think LZ were influenced by other porg artists in their few songs, instead of them evolving the prog genre.
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mystic fred ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 13 2006 Location: Londinium Status: Offline Points: 4252 |
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...ME TOO!
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ResidentAlien ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 17 2006 Status: Offline Points: 441 |
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Here you go, a biography. Led Zeppelin were a leading band in the progressive-rock related scene as they knew a guy who knew a guy who's sister dated a guy who liked Yes. |
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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You are really from another planet, ResidentAlien
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video vertigo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 17 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1930 |
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I'm glad I'm not the only one ![]() ![]() |
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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ResidentAlien ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 17 2006 Status: Offline Points: 441 |
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Nah, I just don't try and rationalize the inclusion of a band on a progressive rock website whose only remote link to prog are at most 4 songs out of an entire discography. And the mention of the 2 Disc DVD earlier is rather absurd as I see it. I have that DVD, have watched it straight through, and can't think of any progressive song on either disc. Sure, there are long songs, but they aren't prog, just extended blues jams. Long doesn't equate progressive. Led Zeppelin are as much a progressive rock band as Green Day are punk. |
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Sasquamo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 26 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 828 |
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I couldn't agree more. Also, what is Greenday then? I guess it's irrelevant, I still highly dislike them, even if they aren't punk.
How about prog-blues for Led Zeppelin?
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Arrrghus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 21 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5296 |
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I like Deep Purp, also!
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S Lang ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 01 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 441 |
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