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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2006 at 15:30
I think yes, to the Progressive electronic section.
 
Unlike many other musicians working with electronics his music is heartfelt and, as far as I can tell, very Japanese in nature.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2006 at 15:49
I say no.

Kitaro is a very eloquent artist, very minimal and very concentric around every edge. his main characteristic is ambient, fixated upon the electronique technique (though there is no real resemblance of classic maneuvers and accurate such styled frames) and some new age. his music is the tranquil speech, monologue somehow, abundently serene.

with the word of ambient dominating completely, I don't believe he fit entirely the spectre of electronic and of any modality as such. let's don't mix ideas with Brian Eno, who has strong tangents with the electronic mode. Kitaro is ambient tranquillizers, made upon a form of chamber ambience and of background.

moreover, Kitaro is no such thing as a progressive music composer, alluder (sp?), or with strong intentions. his addition in PE would be a meer surface viewpoint, his addition in prog would find many pointless attributes. perhaps tradition. perhaps the spirit of doing a constant application. but nothing more.

my vote is towards no.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2006 at 15:50
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Prog related?
 
New Age Related IMO
 
Iván
 
No such genre here.
 
Do you propose that New Age <> Prog in any circumstances? Even prog related? F.ex. JADE WARRIOR has done new age oriented recordings like "Breathing The Storm".
 
LOL No Eetu, this is my attempt of sense of humour:
  1. New Age is not remotely Prog omg, do I smell Wakeman getting kicked out?! ShockedCry
  2. Kitaro is no even New Age, just plain boring music releated to this Genre created to relax stressed Yuppies.
  3. Ergo, Kitaro shouldn't even be mentioned here.

Iván



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2006 at 18:06
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Prog related?
 
New Age Related IMO
 
Iván
 
No such genre here.
 
Do you propose that New Age <> Prog in any circumstances? Even prog related? F.ex. JADE WARRIOR has done new age oriented recordings like "Breathing The Storm".
 
LOL No Eetu, this is my attempt of sense of humour:
  1. New Age is not remotely Prog omg, do I smell Wakeman getting kicked out?! ShockedCry
  2. Kitaro is no even New Age, just plain boring music releated to this Genre created to relax stressed Yuppies.
  3. Ergo, Kitaro shouldn't even be mentioned here.

Iván



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Rick Wakeman released:
 
  1. Six Wives of Henry the VIII
  2. Journey to the Centre of the Earth
  3. Myths & Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table
  4. No Eartly Connection
  5. Criminal Record
  6. 1984
  7. Softsword (King John and the Magna Carta)
  8. Black Knights at the Court of King Ferdinand IV
  9. Stella Bianca alla corte de Re Ferdinando
  10. Return to the Centre of the Earth
  11. 5 or 6 great DVD
  12. Co-author of the best Yes Albums
  13. At least 20 excellent live albums

Few artists dream on releasing this number of first class releases, some artoists are included because they released a partially Prog album, we're talking about 10 excellent albums and at least 20 Live ones plus several DVD's and his work in Yes.

Kitaro only released boring music for technocrat Yuppies who liked POP but wanted to look intelligent and Prog was too much for them, who's next, Yanni?
 
Kitaro has not where to start with Rick Wakeman, mnot a single trascendental album in all his life.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2006 at 22:12
He's a new age musician, and while some of his music verges on PE, I still say no.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2006 at 03:03
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:


Clap to everything said.


 
So also to what I said! Cool 
 
Well, "Boring" is quite subjective characterization. I'm not a fan of KITARO, but I don't loathe him. I think he's quite similar artists as JARRE, prog related being quite good place for both.
 
As you use RICK WAKEMAN for comparing, for me his music is quite boring too. (Tongue)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2006 at 07:11
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Prog related?
 
New Age Related IMO
 
Iván
 
No such genre here.
 
Do you propose that New Age <> Prog in any circumstances? Even prog related? F.ex. JADE WARRIOR has done new age oriented recordings like "Breathing The Storm".
 
LOL No Eetu, this is my attempt of sense of humour:
  1. New Age is not remotely Prog omg, do I smell Wakeman getting kicked out?! ShockedCry
  2. Kitaro is no even New Age, just plain boring music releated to this Genre created to relax stressed Yuppies.
  3. Ergo, Kitaro shouldn't even be mentioned here.

Iván



Clap to everything said.


 
Rick Wakeman released:
 
  1. Six Wives of Henry the VIII
  2. Journey to the Centre of the Earth
  3. Myths & Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table
  4. No Eartly Connection
  5. Criminal Record
  6. 1984
  7. Softsword (King John and the Magna Carta)
  8. Black Knights at the Court of King Ferdinand IV
  9. Stella Bianca alla corte de Re Ferdinando
  10. Return to the Centre of the Earth
  11. 5 or 6 great DVD
  12. Co-author of the best Yes Albums
  13. At least 20 excellent live albums

Few artists dream on releasing this number of first class releases, some artoists are included because they released a partially Prog album, we're talking about 10 excellent albums and at least 20 Live ones plus several DVD's and his work in Yes.

Kitaro only released boring music for technocrat Yuppies who liked POP but wanted to look intelligent and Prog was too much for them, who's next, Yanni?
 
Kitaro has not where to start with Rick Wakeman, mnot a single trascendental album in all his life.
 
Iván
 
 
 
functionally, yes. but he did released about 20 years of boring, plastic, occassionally, just occasionally succesful New Age/Disco/Ambient stuff.
 
I'm not implying anything, regarding Wakeman. just your phrase "New Age isn't prog" is very debatable. and Wakeman is a notorious name, coming in mind, regarding the New Age brand, no?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2006 at 07:12
Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:


Clap to everything said.


 
So also to what I said! Cool 
 
Well, "Boring" is quite subjective characterization. I'm not a fan of KITARO, but I don't loathe him. I think he's quite similar artists as JARRE, prog related being quite good place for both.
 
As you use RICK WAKEMAN for comparing, for me his music is quite boring too. (Tongue)
 
well no, mainly to what Melgar said. LOLEmbarrassed
 
I've argued why prog related isn't proper either; Jarre as Jarre, but Kitaro has no connection with prog. we can't have them all! (or can we......? Ermm)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2006 at 07:15
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I've argued why prog related isn't proper either; Jarre as Jarre, but Kitaro has no connection with prog. we can't have them all! (or can we......? Ermm)
 
Well, some people here seem to think he has realtions with prog. Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2006 at 07:18
Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I've argued why prog related isn't proper either; Jarre as Jarre, but Kitaro has no connection with prog. we can't have them all! (or can we......? Ermm)
 
Well, some people here seem to think he has realtions with prog. Confused
 
mainly, I see opinions regarding the touch of electronic technique being an electronic motivation.
 
anyway, I don't. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2006 at 10:19
You've gotta hand it to Rico, he's the man. (what's he going on about?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2006 at 12:32
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

 
functionally, yes. but he did released about 20 years of boring, plastic, occassionally, just occasionally succesful New Age/Disco/Ambient stuff.
 
I'm not implying anything, regarding Wakeman. just your phrase "New Age isn't prog" is very debatable. and Wakeman is a notorious name, coming in mind, regarding the New Age brand, no?
 
Wakeman New Age albums are not¨Prog, that's not the reason why he is here.
 
Rick is here for releasing more Prog albums than lets say 80% off the Prog artists, he0s categorized here in Symphonic for that reason as Genesis is here for their Prog and not for their POP albums.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2006 at 12:38
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Kitaro is no even New Age, just plain boring music releated to this Genre created to relax stressed Yuppies.
 
attempt succesfull LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2006 at 13:29
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

 
functionally, yes. but he did released about 20 years of boring, plastic, occassionally, just occasionally succesful New Age/Disco/Ambient stuff.
 
I'm not implying anything, regarding Wakeman. just your phrase "New Age isn't prog" is very debatable. and Wakeman is a notorious name, coming in mind, regarding the New Age brand, no?
 
Wakeman New Age albums are not¨Prog, that's not the reason why he is here.
 
Rick is here for releasing more Prog albums than lets say 80% off the Prog artists, he0s categorized here in Symphonic for that reason as Genesis is here for their Prog and not for their POP albums.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2006 at 05:29
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Anyway, I don't. Wink
 
You should get yourself as "Progressive Electronic" specialist team leader, then your opinion about the subject would mean more. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2006 at 10:41
Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Anyway, I don't. Wink
 
You should get yourself as "Progressive Electronic" specialist team leader, then your opinion about the subject would mean more. Smile


is a label the only thing that counts. Smile

not enough experience to be an Electronic specialist. and hell no to being leader. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2006 at 12:00
Yeah we need an Electronic Prog specialists here!!.



Ricochet for Electronic Prog specialistWinkCoolConfused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2006 at 02:22
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Anyway, I don't. Wink
 
You should get yourself as "Progressive Electronic" specialist team leader, then your opinion about the subject would mean more. Smile


is a label the only thing that counts. Smile
 
Not the only thing, but if you want to overrule the majority, it would help.
 
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:


not enough experience to be an Electronic specialist. and hell no to being leader. Wink
 
At least I think you are quite experienced and you have a strong % rational view when reading your reviews of TD and Schulze. I understand that being a leader is not maybe fun, but if a such team would be formed, I think you could be a good team member!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2006 at 02:24
I think yes,after all kitaro was a keyboardist of Far East Family Band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2006 at 12:44
Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Anyway, I don't. Wink
 
You should get yourself as "Progressive Electronic" specialist team leader, then your opinion about the subject would mean more. Smile


is a label the only thing that counts. Smile
 
Not the only thing, but if you want to overrule the majority, it would help.

oh yeah!!! Evil SmileLOL
 
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:


not enough experience to be an Electronic specialist. and hell no to being leader. Wink
 
At least I think you are quite experienced and you have a strong % rational view when reading your reviews of TD and Schulze. I understand that being a leader is not maybe fun, but if a such team would be formed, I think you could be a good team member!


well, thank you for the opinion, but I think that just knowing Tangerine, Schulze, Froese, Froese, Vangelis, Eno and (by the hatrid side) Kraftwerk means only that I am an electronic (optimistic) lover. like I said in my bio. the fact that every other names in the electronic genre is one empty for me frightenes me and makes me be modest. It's not about fun, it's about a "label" that means dexterity through a wide and open-minded documentation.

but hey, if an Electronic Team finally gets out of future tense and I, by my merits, get nominated as a member of it, guess there's another majority over which I can't pass. Tongue

anyway, back to the subject, enough reflection on me being specialist (though I'm surprised NutterAlert hasn't showed up till now to make his usual "Rico's da man" statement LOL). Wink

so...I don't. (starting it over again). Wink

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