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Easy Livin 
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 Posted: October 15 2006 at 11:04 |
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I find "Circle of Hands" from the acoustic set particularly memorable. I posted a lengthy observation on it a while back, which I've now made into a blog.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 17:25 |
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They're a bit of an odd case really - I've just bought "Very 'Eavy, Very 'Umble" and "Look at Yourself", mainly because they turned up in my local vinyl treasure-trove and I don't already own copies.
But I've listened to "Demons and Wizards" and "Magician's Birthday", and felt a bit bitten from a Prog Rock perspective. It's great rock, with some blinding tunes and the legendary Heep choir - but it ain't Prog Rock. I note we file them under "Art Rock", which is a bit of a joke really! Great band, but shouldn't be in the Prog lounge. |
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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mina
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 17:36 |
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i've only heard salisbury, but it blew away my misconceptions of the band.
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tuxon
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Posted: October 15 2006 at 19:47 |
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Good read there Easy livin'
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I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
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T.Rox
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 05:55 |
I suppose I was a bit miffed when I first saw Heep in PA. I would have placed them more in the Proto-Prog / Prog Related areas rather than Art Rock, if in PA at all.
When I was a youngster I never considered UH, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Queen or Golden Earring to be anything other than rock or hard rock acts; whereas I always considered Yes, Genesis, Tull & Floyd to be Prog artists.
...but all of this I feel is an endless debate!  Edited by T.Rox - October 16 2006 at 08:13 |
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"Without prog, life would be a mistake."
...with apologies to Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 06:45 |
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At least I see their albums "Salibury" and "Magician's Birthday" as progressive rock.
Another case could be DEEP PURPLE which are proto prog, having three psych albums + orchestral symphonic album out of 54 releases, 50 of them being basic hard-rock.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 07:58 |
Deep Purple are Proto-Prog...  http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1969
(Sorry, hyperlink widget fluffs up in IE7). Without wishing to enter into this particular debate in this thread (start another?) I reviewed "Magician's Birthday" a while back, and found it severely lacking in the Prog department: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=31302 |
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 08:02 |
Yes, but only their 3 albums out of 54 are that.
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T.Rox
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 08:18 |
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"Without prog, life would be a mistake."
...with apologies to Friedrich Nietzsche |
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M. B. Zapelini
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Posted: October 17 2006 at 06:06 |
 What a great place to start. This album turned five friends of mine into UH fans! Hope this happens to you too.
Uriah Heep was always one of my favorite bands - I actually like all their albums, except "Equator", which is a crap (still there's a few decent pop tunes, like "Heartache City", "Poor Little Rich Girl" and "Night of the Wolf"; even "Different World" has his moments. I think John Lawton is one of the most underrated rock singers of all time, and he's still doing a terrific job today, as everybody can see at UH recend videos (although he's sporting an horrible toupeé!). But his work with UH wasn't as strong as Byron's, so most fans tend to underrate him. It's a shame.
By the way, what would be your ideal UH line-up? Mine is a six piece band:
John Lawton - lead vocals
Mick Box - guitar
Ken Hensley - keyboards & guitar
Phil Lanzon - keyboards
John Wetton - bass
Lee Kerslake - drums
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"He's a man of the past and one of the present"
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salmacis
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Posted: October 17 2006 at 13:51 |
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Well I consider myself to be a die hard of their 70s period but I found the 80s stuff quickly wore out its welcome and was basically anodyne AOR that any band could have recorded. Very little of the Heep sound was in these albums. They only found it again with the superb 'Sea Of Light'- right up there with the very best imo.
As for Lawton, I agree and posted here that he was the most underrated rock vocalist ever- close run with Samson's Nicky Moore. I think Lawton saved some of the albums he did with Heep. 'Firefly' is a classic and one of their best but the other two and the unreleased 'Five Miles' sessions are often obvious AOR missives that are a million miles away from the direction the fans liked. Lawton makes silk purses out of sow's ears like 'Keep On Ridin', 'Roller' and 'Put Your Lovin' On Me' which are all slight soft rockers.
John Wetton's contribution to Heep was mainly down his close friendship with David Byron, imo. Rumour has it he was the only member of any incarnation of Heep that attended Byron's funeral over 20 years ago. Wetton turned up at the Magician's Birthday Party event signing memorabilia etc. I think (I'm sure I can see him on the DVD), and was even due to play with them at the 2003 one but he never did. He did play a short tour with Ken Hensley, as has John Lawton.
I agree that 'The Magician's Birthday' isn't a progressive album as such- songs like 'Blind Eye', 'Echoes In The Dark' and 'Tales' have a sort of folk prog tinge that came out more in the 'Acoustically Driven' project. I always found the title track to be more excessive than progressive, particularly the gratuitous guitar solo section...However, I think their first 4 albums have a fair bit of prog here and there- never more so than 'Salisbury', their most progressive album. Edited by salmacis - October 17 2006 at 13:54 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: October 18 2006 at 03:01 |
Welcome Mina.
If you liked Salisbury you should try "Look at Yourself" it's the fisrt really Prog Heep album, still Gary Thain and Lee Kerslake hadn't joined the band for their best lineup (They had 30 changes in 10 years
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If it was only for this three songs, the album would be worth already, but it's much more. Iván
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mina
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Posted: October 18 2006 at 03:04 |
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ah, my first recommendation. exciting! thank you, ivan. i will definitely check that album out.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: October 18 2006 at 03:54 |
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Welcome Mina, always good to have another Heep fan on board!
I wouldn't read too much into the fact that only Wetton attended Byron's funeral. The rest of the band all had their own problems at the time, and had pretty much lost touch with David. It wasn't a deliberate snub as such.
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salmacis
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Posted: October 18 2006 at 05:34 |
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Yeah I know that Mick Box was shocked and took to drinking for a short period after it, and I think it was one of the catalysts in Ken Hensley cleaning up his act. I think anyway...
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baldy flapstick
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Posted: October 18 2006 at 19:31 |
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I'm not really
a fan of Uriah Heep and never considered them to be a prog band. I had
a compilation of their early material when I was a kid including July
Morning on it and I just considered it to be rock music, no more
adventurous than Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin, neither of whom I
classify as prog either. Firefly was an acceptable album but the only
other album I'm familiar with is Conquest which is ok in places but at
times almost embarassing. John Sloman's vocals didn't help. There are
any number of bands who have prog moments without really being prog but
how we classify what is and isn't prog I guess will be a debate which
rattles on forever.
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Here Comes The Supernatural Anaesthetist
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: October 18 2006 at 19:36 |
Yes Salmacis and remember thay had already passed for that same situation a few years before when Gary Thain almost died electrocuted on stage and his addiction to heroine rised so fast they had to kick him despite being probably the best bassist ever.
A short time after Gary Died woith OD so David Byron's situation was more of the same in a short lapse of time, it's understandable they were shocked.
Iván
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Prog-jester
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 06:31 |
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This is one of my fathers' fave bands!!!
I grown up with the sounds of "Weep in Silence","Sunrise","Lady in Black","Illusion","Sympathy","July Morning","The Park","Choises","The Dance" and other legendary Heep tracks.I don't consider them to be Prog,but they're excellent anyway.Fave albums - "The Magician's Birthday","Innocent Victim","Demons and Wizards","Salisbury" etc |
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kev2307
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 13:18 |
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I was lucky introduced to Uriah Heep by my first girlfriend back in 1972 - I tried to educate her about Deep Purple and failed.
But I must admit I love the 'Live' album. The whole tuning bit at the beginning and Dave Byron telling everyone it was going out live, pure musical theater.
I was lucky enough to have an instructor in the army who taught us to type to Uriah Heep - he felt they had good rhythm.
One song no one seems to mention is 'Illusion' - I am a great fan of the early stuff but I did think this was an acceptional song from the late 70's
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: October 20 2006 at 17:54 |
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Well, post thee here ye ratings:
 URIAH HEEP - Conquest URIAH HEEP - Head First URIAH HEEP - Different World URIAH HEEP - Sea of Light URIAH HEEP - Sonic OrigamiEdited by Eetu Pellonpää - October 20 2006 at 17:54 |
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