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Quote Also, you may be right about Pawn Hearts' "undarkness" only in terms of lyrics... Musically, I don't recall any darker VdGG album, really.


I concur. No contest!!
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Originally posted by babydoctor babydoctor wrote:

Quote I'll go along with Friede and vote for "Xitintoday". very dark album; you can't go any darker than a trip to the ancient Egyptian underworld. highly recommended album, but unfortunately only available on vinyl and a real rarity.


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Nice one (though I'm not sure which version I have.... I have it in mp3, probably ripped from the newer CD version, but the sound is so '70's.... anway)


So is _Xitintoday_ currently available on CD or not?! If so, I must have it!!!


the answer is here:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1744
"Their only album was recorded inside the great pyramid and deals with ancient Egyptian mythology. It is rather meditative with the flute of Nik Turner being predominant; lots of synthesizers and spacey guitar and vocoder. The album gets rockier towards the end, but don't expect any crashing guitars like HAWKWIND. For any fan of the psychedelic branch of prog this is an absolute must album.

Unfortunately it does only exist in a vinyl version; a 1994 CD-issue of Nik Turner of the same name includes the same lyrics, but completely different music! Not a bad album, but fades in comparison to the vinyl."
my concern was that since I had it on a Russian mp3 CD, I wasn't sure which version I really had... Russians are known to have converted vinyl-only albums to mp3 as well; I have a copy of No Earthly Connection (actually even two different copies: Music Reincarnate in a single piece in one, broken down in the other!!!) btw, another partly dark album ehWink?
What doubts me most is that the music in my mp3 CD is exactly as described above! btw, I'll be happy if someone informs me of what exactly do I have Confused... I can give the track durations and more detailed info if needed... (besides, what Russians put inside the CD as the album cover is completely different than that featured in PA... it has a picture of Sphynx with some UFO's flying around...)
Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Points: 10387 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2006 at 13:22
Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by babydoctor babydoctor wrote:

Quote I'll go along with Friede and vote for "Xitintoday". very dark album; you can't go any darker than a trip to the ancient Egyptian underworld. highly recommended album, but unfortunately only available on vinyl and a real rarity.


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Nice one (though I'm not sure which version I have.... I have it in mp3, probably ripped from the newer CD version, but the sound is so '70's.... anway)


So is _Xitintoday_ currently available on CD or not?! If so, I must have it!!!


the answer is here:
"Their only album was recorded inside the great pyramid and deals with ancient Egyptian mythology. It is rather meditative with the flute of Nik Turner being predominant; lots of synthesizers and spacey guitar and vocoder. The album gets rockier towards the end, but don't expect any crashing guitars like HAWKWIND. For any fan of the psychedelic branch of prog this is an absolute must album.

Unfortunately it does only exist in a vinyl version; a 1994 CD-issue of Nik Turner of the same name includes the same lyrics, but completely different music! Not a bad album, but fades in comparison to the vinyl."
my concern was that since I had it on a Russian mp3 CD, I wasn't sure which version I really had... Russians are known to have converted vinyl-only albums to mp3 as well; I have a copy of No Earthly Connection (actually even two different copies: Music Reincarnate in a single piece in one, broken down in the other!!!) btw, another partly dark album ehWink?
What doubts me most is that the music in my mp3 CD is exactly as described above! btw, I'll be happy if someone informs me of what exactly do I have Confused... I can give the track durations and more detailed info if needed... (besides, what Russians put inside the CD as the album cover is completely different than that featured in PA... it has a picture of Sphynx with some UFO's flying around...)

if you give me the track durations I can tell you whether you have the vinyl or the CD version


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Gentle Giant's "Aquiring The Taste" is very, very dark in my opinion.

And King Crimson's "Red" either.
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I only listened to 5 of the albums listed here, so I won't vote: I'll just express my opinion by naming the darkest album of these 5: Pawn Hearts
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:


if you give me the track durations I can tell you whether you have the vinyl or the CD version
Thanx, Jeanine! unfortunately I don't have any copies of the CD at this workplace Ouch (I loaded it on computer in my previous work, damn itAngry!) I still haven't loaded it in my mp3 player, either... I don't think it will be worth the try if it's the new version, ehTongue?
 
I'll get the CD or make the list at home this evening, and give you the list tomorrow! Just don't go anywhere LOL!!!
Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:


if you give me the track durations I can tell you whether you have the vinyl or the CD version
Thanx, Jeanine! unfortunately I don't have any copies of the CD at this workplace Ouch (I loaded it on computer in my previous work, damn itAngry!) I still haven't loaded it in my mp3 player, either... I don't think it will be worth the try if it's the new version, ehTongue?
 
I'll get the CD or make the list at home this evening, and give you the list tomorrow! Just don't go anywhere LOL!!!

here a list of the tracks and their lengths from the original vinyl:

1) The Awakening (Life on Venus) 4:35
2) Pyramid Spell 3:43
3) The Hall of Double Truth 3:00
4) Anubis 4:54
5) Thoth 3:52
6) Horus 5:37
7) Isis and Nephtys 6:05
8) Osiris 5:25
9) God Rock 6:49


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On that list, Comus : First Utterance.

In reality, Necronomicon : Tips Zum Selbstmord.
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:


if you give me the track durations I can tell you whether you have the vinyl or the CD version
 
Thanx, Jeanine! unfortunately I don't have any copies of the CD at this workplace Ouch (I loaded it on computer in my previous work, damn itAngry!) I still haven't loaded it in my mp3 player, either... I don't think it will be worth the try if it's the new version, ehTongue?
 
I'll get the CD or make the list at home this evening, and give you the list tomorrow! Just don't go anywhere LOL!!!

here a list of the tracks and their lengths from the original vinyl:

1) The Awakening (Life on Venus) 4:35
2) Pyramid Spell 3:43
3) The Hall of Double Truth 3:00
4) Anubis 4:54
5) Thoth 3:52
6) Horus 5:37
7) Isis and Nephtys 6:05
8) Osiris 5:25
9) God Rock 6:49
 
This is my exact track duration listing, with less-than-minor, 1 second variations in 3 tracks. I am surprised how Russians (or whoever the hell it was who converted the vinyl into mp3...) did such a precise job.Confused
 
(I was pretty sure of the '70's sounds anyway... besides, the music is just as described in band info, and the track tags are credited to 1978)
 
btw, I was wrong about the cover. I confused it with Anubian Lights' 2nd album, which is also in my disc. It is still different than the one featured in PA discography anyway... hard to describe, but basicly it's a graphic of "Sphynx" words in various sizes, forming a shape of scorpion...
 
Thanks again, Jeanine... Is the CD version track durations much different?
Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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you can easily tell the CD-version from the vinyl version. if you hear sounds that seem to be knocks on a wall at the beginning of the first three tracks, you have the vinyl version. these are knocks on the walls of the Great Pyramid (from within; the album was recorded inside the Great Pyramid)


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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

On that list, Comus : First Utterance.

In reality, Necronomicon : Tips Zum Selbstmord.


Yes, its dark. Another dark and creepy krautaband/album is German Oak. Highly reccomended. Read the tho reviwevs and you'll get the idea.

All this talk about the Xitintoday album I haven't heard, makes me very curious.
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

you can easily tell the CD-version from the vinyl version. if you hear sounds that seem to be knocks on a wall at the beginning of the first three tracks, you have the vinyl version. these are knocks on the walls of the Great Pyramid (from within; the album was recorded inside the Great Pyramid)
 
unfortunately I don't have the "other" version anyway Cry... strangely enough; my computer's soundcard is broken down here (at work) and though I loaded the CD here, I'll have to wait 'till I get home to check out your instruction Big smile... Durations match, anyway...
 
and I'll have to wait 'till another spring to get the CD version, if ever Confused
 
those who are curious of the mp3'ed vinyl version; you'll have to track it down in Russia (a CD called "Space Rock", printed by a group which call their CD's "domashniaya kollektsiya" - "home collection"...) or, more easily, when you drop in at Istanbul; I'll give you a copy for free Big smile
 
I'm sorry for deviating this much from the original topic; but at least I help to keep the thread aliveWink
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Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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I'd say Comus

seeing as its discussing rape and murder and the likes
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Originally posted by OpethGuitarist OpethGuitarist wrote:

I'd say Comus

seeing as its discussing rape and murder and the likes

when it boils down to that, no album is darker than "Phallus Dei" by Amon Düül 2. the song "Dem Guten, Schönen, Wahren" ("For the Good, the True, the Beautiful") is about a child rapist and murderer. here the German lyrics and their translation:

"Ihr ließet die Kindlein zu mir kommen!
In weißen Kleidern mit Blumen im Haar
hab' ich ihnen die Unschuld genommen,
kann euch nicht sagen, wie schön es war!!

"You let the children come to me!
In white clothes, with flowers in the hair,
I took away their virginity!
Can't tell you how wonderful it was!"

Dienet dem Schönen, dem Guten, dem Wahren!
Peitschet ihn aus, er bebt schon danach!
Lasst ihn die süße Qual erfahren;
er sehnt sich so nach Schande und Schmach!
Ja!

Serve the Beautiful, the Good, the True!
Whip him, he is already quivering for it!
Let him experience the sweet torment;
he so craves for disgrace and ignominy.
Yes!

Wir tanzten zusammen Ringelreih'n
und sangen ein wunderschönes Lied.
Die Kleinste fing an, nach der Mutter zu schrei'n.
Ich durchbohrte sie sanft mit meinem Glied.

We danced ring-around-the rosy together
and sang a beautiful song.
The smallest started crying for her mother.
I gently penetrated her with my member.

Kommet zuhauf und seht ihn euch an!
Das Haupt kahlgeschoren und lächelt noch!
Frisch ans Werk, 's ist gleich getan.
Hängt ihn auf, den geilen Moloch!
Ja!

Get thee all here and behold him!
His head shaved bald and still he smiles!
Let's get to work, 'tis easily done!
Hang him, the lusty moloch!
Yes!

Now that's what I call "dark".


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...and disgusting.

What's yer faovrite album? =^_^=
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Originally posted by NecroManiac NecroManiac wrote:

...and disgusting.

I certainly don't deny that


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Edited by WickerRocker - September 21 2006 at 11:59
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by NecroManiac NecroManiac wrote:

...and disgusting.

I certainly don't deny that
 
your posts evoke several feelings:
 
- I would've thanked for the lyrics; for I love that album and wanted to sing; but as I learn the meaning beneath them; I'm not so sure of that anymore Wink (actually I already knew what "Phallus Dei" actually means... but I never thought they would take it this far!)
 
- I speak a little German, and I wanted to improve it; but after this I'm not sure of that, either! after all, I listen to the songs without paying attention to their meanings, and enjoy them; but when I sense their contrast to my beliefs, I can't enjoy them at all!!! The same happened when I discovered what it was about VdGG's White Hammer Wink... what can I do, I'm a conservative christian! ("conservative" in this sense doesn't mean "catholic" or "traditionalist"... I'm neither!)
 
all in all, you're doing a good job here! keep on!
Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Pink Floyd - The Wall
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Peter Hammil - In camera is a great sad album

Jacula - Tardo pede in magiam Versus great obscure avantgarde.!

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