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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2006 at 22:49
Originally posted by Alucard Alucard wrote:



 
... obscure band nirvana , I always thought I had a big record collection , but these names... I just checked out the contact on the record( in the French 'Alsace' region) and this must be the contact man: just write him maybe he sends you a signed vynyl.Wink
Michel Hartmann:
 
 
 



Mornin' Alucard! How did you come across an e-mail contact address?! Is M.Hartmann quite a well known character in France?
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Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Wacko
It keeps surprising me that Yukorin Still isn't a Zeuhl Speciallist



Abs..!

有難うけど何かちょっとめんどくさいなぁ〜！



 
WTF!?
Translate that, will you?



Thanks Abs, but, you know, I really can't be arsed...!
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Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:




Hmmm... I never knew Steve had involvment with this band. There are a few CD's down at my store from these guys, definately going to be doing some research to see if they are worthwhile.

Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:





Interesting band which people should check out. I have only one split record with them on, and that was only two shortish tracks from them. It was with NWW and current 93.

NWW really was prolific, as you said Yu if this band gets added there is going to be a hell of a lot of work to be done on someones part.


Back in the mid-eighties I picked up a copy of 'An Afflicted Man's Musica Box' (United Dairies compilation) and it features a wonderful mysterious track by the underground krautrock legends Anima. Didn't know them at the time and just assumed it was some contemporary avant/industrial outfit. Don't know if it has seen a cd release but it is a great collection. NWW and the Jim Thirwell (this time as 'Foetus In My Bed') tracks are particulary great.

And yes, adding this band is gonna cause some major headaches for some. If you think Iron Maiden opened up a can of worms...
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[QUOTE=Black Velvet]
KULTIVATOR : BARNDOMENS STIGAR (SWEDEN'81)
  • 1 Höga hästar (3: 32)
  • 2 Vemod (2: 35)
  • 3 Småfolket (5: 15)
  • 4 Kära jord (7: 07)
  • 5 Barndomens stigar (5: 13)
  • 6 Grottekvarnen (7: 05)
  • 7 Vårföl (2: 52)
  • 8 Novarest (6: 14)
  • 9 Häxdans (6: 35)
  • 10 Tunnelbanan Medley (3: 13)
I've been so close to getting this on vinyl only to have been sniped at the last second on Yahoo! Auctions and eBay. Maybe three times now! It's an absolute stone-cold classic. A wonderful mix of zeuhl and Canterbury with some unforgettable melodies and sexy female singing ala Cos. On the reviews page one of the reviewers claims to be one of the bands son.





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Incidentally, what happened to the last page?! Marginal,heh!
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Haha ! Holy Cow ! If NNW does get added... it'll probably be tossed into Rio/Avant sense that's the only place that would work haha.

And i do not wanna be incharge of gathering the info like you said. haha crazyness.




As for the next one to get.. just grab anything i can get my hands on



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Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Haha ! Holy Cow ! If NNW does get added... it'll probably be tossed into Rio/Avant sense that's the only place that would work haha.

And i do not wanna be incharge of gathering the info like you said. haha crazyness.




As for the next one to get.. just grab anything i can get my hands on



You do like to suffer Faaip!

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Edited by Yukorin - October 08 2006 at 01:29
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Anyone farmiliar with this one? Just wondering whether it is worth the effort.

RIALZU

Rialzu (Ricoridu LM 16) 1978

Bernard Gueffier - La Discographie du Rock Francais (Translation: Dan Techno)

This group, led by the Renne brothers (with Gilles on the guitar) and the McDaniel brothers, recorded this album in a day but it was distributed solely in Corsica. RIALZU merge progressive rock, Zeuhl music and the Corsican culture. On side A, they develop a single theme, beginning with an energetic rhythm, broken by a sequence, which fades out, to be succeeded by the main theme. The vocals sung in Corsican, increase on the former and institute a solemn climate, loaded with emotion and tension. Ample feminine and male choruses relay this sombre chant. Side B is introduced by the blowing, anguishing wind, to which is chained a slow and muffled climbing of choruses impregnated with this fervour, this tender chant of Corsican sadness. The ascension of the theme continues, punctuated by incisive strings of the violin or flights of the guitar before dying with the disappearance of choruses snatched by the wind. Constantly, a sombre lyricism reigns on this disc devoted to legends or poems - a marriage of Corsican culture with rock music. Between Magma, Ottobre and King Crimson. - Album deleted, but "La Discographie" is available from Musea.(Something that the incredibly good "a Discographie du Rock Francais" failed to mention is that RIALZU introduced their album with 'Köhntarkösz').
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Points: 2888 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2006 at 18:42
Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

[QUOTE=Black Velvet]
KULTIVATOR : BARNDOMENS STIGAR (SWEDEN'81)
  • 1 Höga hästar (3: 32)
  • 2 Vemod (2: 35)
  • 3 Småfolket (5: 15)
  • 4 Kära jord (7: 07)
  • 5 Barndomens stigar (5: 13)
  • 6 Grottekvarnen (7: 05)
  • 7 Vårföl (2: 52)
  • 8 Novarest (6: 14)
  • 9 Häxdans (6: 35)
  • 10 Tunnelbanan Medley (3: 13)
I've been so close to getting this on vinyl only to have been sniped at the last second on Yahoo! Auctions and eBay. Maybe three times now! It's an absolute stone-cold classic. A wonderful mix of zeuhl and Canterbury with some unforgettable melodies and sexy female singing ala Cos. On the reviews page one of the reviewers claims to be one of the bands son.



I thought you would be interested in this one, I still need to listen to this one a little more. For some reason this album is just one of those which is taking me a while to digest

Also did someone meantion Cos Not Zeuhl but bloody good.



Nowadays, three decades after the zenith of progressive rock, and having been witnesses of its demise around 1979, we can consider ourselves able to reach several interesting conclusions. One of them is, of course, that prog rock itself was the smartest son of Mother Psychedelia, another conclusion (among many) is that the internationalization of progressive rock (a phenomena that started around 1971), lead to the development of certain characteristics that could be (in a very broad and loose sense of course) assigned to each country.

We could say for example that the birth of Zeuhl in France permeated many bands and created a solid movement which is avant-garde, and also very influential, but which is above all, very much French.

The same can be said about Kraut-rock. The quality here is "cold logic & brain", synth-driven intellectuality, techno-teutonic discipline. Very German.

And the Italians, are baroque, delicate and symphonic. And deliciously Italian.

The list could go on and on.

They are generalizations and of course as any generalization these could lead to many mistaken preconceptions. But they are also helpful hints for those of us who teach history of rock, to understand certain bands and movements.

So we need to reach to a definition of Belgian prog.

I believe that in Belgium things had two sides during the 80’s. One side was occupied by bands like Machiavel or Banzai (Recently posted in this blog) both under the influence of British Prog (Yes, Genesis , etc)

The other side was immersed in deeper avant-garde waters. Belgium was the home land of extraordinary bands like Univers Zero or Present, Godfathers of Chamber Rock, a Prog sub-genre close to classical avant-garde and sometimes with a sinister and somber quality.

In the Middle ground between both sides we find the exquisite Cos. A band whose leader, Daniel Schell, was an adept to occultism and Alchemy and thus was not afraid to experiment or even go cryptic when he felt it was needed to.

The other notable member of Cos, and probably the person responsible for Cos, peculiar personality was Pascale Son, singer and Oboe player whose style had influences of Flora Purim, Ursula Dudziek or Gayle Moran, that is, she used her voice as another instruments, improvising, making articulated sounds and explosive onomatopoeias, thus going well beyond the restrictions of the lyrics, specially in concerts, This made Cos a great band to see live.

Viva Boma is a very diverse album. It opens with the short, spacey and ahead of its time track named “Perhaps next record” which sounds like Ozric tentacles but twenty years before them.
Then it goes to the pseudo African (of Belgian-Congo rendition if you like) Viva Boma, which gives the name to the album.

After those two tongue-in-cheek short experiments the album enters the realm of Canterbury, jazz, odd instrumental passages, hard psych and other sound weavings that remind us of Hatfield and The North, Robert Wyatt, Henry Cow, Hawkwind and Floyd.

It contains a classic: L’idiot Leon. And a million great moments.

In a way, I think that Viva Boma is an album of draft notes. It has so many ideas, so many inventions that it is like a treasure for every experimental musician, because here a musician will find unfinished drawings, waiting to be perfected, developed, waiting to be born.

This edition comes with 4 extra tracks. One of them is truly marvelous.

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http://prognotfrog.blogspot.com/

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Magma - ''Live/Hhaï (Köhntark)



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Weren't you supposed to send me some zeuhl, Yukorin?
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Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Haha ! Holy Cow ! If NNW does get added... it'll probably be tossed into Rio/Avant sense that's the only place that would work haha.

And i do not wanna be incharge of gathering the info like you said. haha crazyness.




As for the next one to get.. just grab anything i can get my hands on



You do like to suffer Faaip!

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That's what i've been hearin'


Finally got to hear 'Eros'. Good stuff. Although Arrakis is still my favorite from the album. And i can hear that here, hehe.



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Just Found an .mp3 of "Kulivator - Barndomens Stigar" Shocked
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Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Anyone farmiliar with this one? Just wondering whether it is worth the effort.

RIALZU

Rialzu (Ricoridu LM 16) 1978

Bernard Gueffier - La Discographie du Rock Francais (Translation: Dan Techno)

This group, led by the Renne brothers (with Gilles on the guitar) and the McDaniel brothers, recorded this album in a day but it was distributed solely in Corsica. RIALZU merge progressive rock, Zeuhl music and the Corsican culture. On side A, they develop a single theme, beginning with an energetic rhythm, broken by a sequence, which fades out, to be succeeded by the main theme. The vocals sung in Corsican, increase on the former and institute a solemn climate, loaded with emotion and tension. Ample feminine and male choruses relay this sombre chant. Side B is introduced by the blowing, anguishing wind, to which is chained a slow and muffled climbing of choruses impregnated with this fervour, this tender chant of Corsican sadness. The ascension of the theme continues, punctuated by incisive strings of the violin or flights of the guitar before dying with the disappearance of choruses snatched by the wind. Constantly, a sombre lyricism reigns on this disc devoted to legends or poems - a marriage of Corsican culture with rock music. Between Magma, Ottobre and King Crimson. - Album deleted, but "La Discographie" is available from Musea.(Something that the incredibly good "a Discographie du Rock Francais" failed to mention is that RIALZU introduced their album with 'Köhntarkösz').




I've heard this once a long time ago and it is something I really want to buy. Rarely seen and largely forgotten unfortunately.

Also agree that Bernard Gueffier's (Musea label owner) 'Discographie' tome is an exceptional work and obvious labour of love and well worthy of your attention
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Stairway to Heaven...
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The sign reads: PuroguresshivuRokkuKan (Progressive Rock Hall) and is a must visit if you are ever passing by Tokyo
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I thought I would knock off a review of Vortex's 'Les Cyclones De Thanatos' (1979) as it really deserves your attention







Distant cymbal crashes, controlled snare rolls brushed with the touch of a feather and an electric piano sounding unnervingly like Chick Corea and we're off into an ever descending journey to hell accompanied only by a dozen or so mute Frenchmen from Lyons sporting tight fitting Pringle jumpers, facial hair configurations designed by Deep Blue, and a general disregard for personal hygiene. Oh an' The Electric Light Orchestra and the Dutch '74 World Cup squad's hairdresser and fashion adviser is taggin' along for good measure. Pot-Pourri.

When I close my eyes and really listen to the sumptuous opener I see two things. The first is Valerie Leon and Claudia Cardinale having a catfight in 1968. The second is a crack-squad of teenage North Korean female unicyclists wearing brown and orange striped hot-pants waving ribbons in one hand and AK-47's in the other guarding a sacred river that has water so pure it is said to alleviate stresses from the back of one's mind caused by a general lack of understanding of how an ant can expect to see an average life-span of approximately five years.

This gentle opener can not prepare anyone for what is about to follow. The greatest piece of music ever created by humans.

If there was ever a detective series set in France from 1979 starring Alain Delon and Jean-Paul Belmondo as two men who wandered the rain drenched streets of autumnal Saint-Germain des Pres drinking Sancerre from hip-flasks and chain smoking Gauloises Brunes looking for whoever it was who stole Serge Gainsbourg's ashtray whilst driving their beat-up low-rider off-white Citroen SM in cream leather slip-ons then this is the opening sequence theme. Sounds a bit like what would happen if the drummer from Curtis Mayfield's 'Superfly'  and the brass section of Out Of Focus with an unshaven Jannick Top on bass and Stevie Wonder on keys and a select, invitation only swarm of mosquitoes loaded on Valium with Bernard Herrmann orchestrating had an impromptu jam session on Concorde flying at low altitude over Big Ben. With brie.

Side two is one long, treacherous journey to escape Styx (unfortunately we also have to endure 'Paradise Theatre'). Originally commissioned for the aborted Alexandro Jodorowsky filming of 'Dune' this is one hell of a dark epic. Would have fitted the original King Kong perfectly.The music picks up after fifteen minutes but still manages to stay as depressing as finding a pubic hair embedded in your Big Mac and it comes as no surprise to learn that Art Zoyd used to join Vortex on stage to perform this at many of their shows.

Only 3000 copies were printed and mainly sold at their gigs. Track her down if you can.

Anyone familiar with The John Gregory Orchestra? Johnny did a lot of exotica and television and soundtrack work in the 60s and 70s and used to go by the nom-de-plume 'Chaquito'. In 1976 he released 'The Detectives' to a shocked world. His takes on 'McCloud' and 'Policeman' and 'The Rockford Files' raised the bar to such a height it was thought for the longest time that nothing could ever come as close to this for orgasmic aural pleasure again. They were wrong.

Theme from Shoestring excepted.











(usual edits...)












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That's right. With brie!

Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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I thought I would knock off a review of Vortex's 'Les Cyclones De Thanatos' (1979) as it really deserves your attention







Distant cymbal crashes, controlled snare rolls brushed with the touch of a feather and an electric piano sounding unnervingly like Chick Corea and we're off into an ever descending journey to hell accompanied only by a dozen or so mute Frenchmen from Lyons sporting tight fitting Pringle jumpers, facial hair configurations designed by Deep Blue, and a general disregard for personal hygiene. Oh an' The Electric Light Orchestra and the Dutch '74 World Cup squad's hairdresser and fashion adviser is taggin' along for good measure. Pot-Pourri.

When I close my eyes and really listen to the sumptuous opener I see two things. The first is Valerie Leon and Claudia Cardinale having a catfight in 1968. The second is a crack-squad of teenage North Korean female unicyclists wearing brown and orange striped hot-pants waving ribbons in one hand and AK-47's in the other guarding a sacred river that has water so pure it is said to alleviate stresses from the back of one's mind caused by a general lack of understanding of how an ant can expect to see an average life-span of approximately five years.

This gentle opener can not prepare anyone for what is about to follow. The greatest piece of music ever created by humans.

If there was ever a detective series set in France from 1979 starring Alain Delon and Jean-Paul Belmondo as two men who wandered the rain drenched streets of autumnal Saint-Germain des Pres drinking Sancerre from hip-flasks and chain smoking Gauloises Brunes looking for whoever it was who stole Serge Gainsbourg's ashtray whilst driving their beat-up low-rider off-white Citroen SM in cream leather slip-ons then this is the opening sequence theme. Sounds a bit like what would happen if the drummer from Curtis Mayfield's 'Superfly'  and the brass section of Out Of Focus with an unshaven Jannick Top on bass and Stevie Wonder on keys and a select, invitation only swarm of mosquitoes loaded on Valium with Bernard Herrmann orchestrating had an impromptu jam session on Concorde flying at low altitude over Big Ben. With brie.

Side two is one long, treacherous journey to escape Styx (unfortunately we also have to endure 'Paradise Theatre'). Originally commissioned for the aborted Alexandro Jodorowsky filming of 'Dune' this is one hell of a dark epic. Would have fitted the original King Kong perfectly.The music picks up after fifteen minutes but still manages to stay as depressing as finding a pubic hair embedded in your Big Mac and it comes as no surprise to learn that Art Zoyd used to join Vortex on stage to perform this at many of their shows.

Only 3000 copies were printed and mainly sold at their gigs. Track her down if you can.

Anyone familiar with The John Gregory Orchestra? Johnny did a lot of exotica and television and soundtrack work in the 60s and 70s and used to go by the nom-de-plume 'Chaquito'. In 1976 he released 'The Detectives' to a shocked world. His takes on 'McCloud' and 'Policeman' and 'The Rockford Files' raised the bar to such a height it was thought for the longest time that nothing could ever come as close to this for orgasmic aural pleasure again. They were wrong.

Theme from Shoestring excepted.


(usual edits...)

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Nice stuff, Yu, entertaining as always. We are actually voting on this band at the moment. So hopefully given sometime they are going to be added to the site. I don't think there is going to be many arguments about them. You really have no idea how much I would kill to see both Art Zoyd and Vortex playing together, would have been spectacular. Did you ever get to witness this?
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Nice, tell us what you think, a nice Canterbury-ish introduction if I might say so myself.
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You really have no idea how much I would kill to see both Art Zoyd and Vortex playing together, would have been spectacular. Did you ever get to witness this?



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