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Atavachron 
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Posted: October 01 2006 at 23:39 |
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Though by its very nature prog will always be changing and presumably improving, other great music forms (such as jazz or reggae) have become somewhat staid and formatted. Is stagnation in our future or will the progressive perspective continue to thrive?
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Posted: October 01 2006 at 23:48 |
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I'm not really sure. Most prog these days is in the form of metal with slight prog influences.
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Posted: October 01 2006 at 23:53 |
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Well, yes, most 'popular' prog; that is, what you tend to hear on the online broadcasts and see on the prog sites. However there is a small but powerful contingent of modern progressive masters (Flat 122, David Bagsby, Planet X, Holdsworth, etc.) that seem to be quite buoyant.
Edited by Owl 3 - October 01 2006 at 23:55
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Posted: October 01 2006 at 23:58 |
 Owl 3 wrote:
Well, yes, most 'popular' prog; that is, what you tend to hear on the online broadcasts and see on the prog sites. However there is a small but powerful contingent of modern progressive masters (Flat 122, David Bagsby, Planet X, Holdsworth, etc.) that seem to be quite buoyant.
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Oh, definitely. There needs to be a huge band that changes all of that.
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:02 |
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I see-- you mean a *breakthrough* band that takes the best of those elements and does something digestable to a larger audience?
Edited by Owl 3 - October 02 2006 at 00:03
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:06 |
There's actually plenty of great modern prog: sumphonic like The Flower Kings and The Tangent, art rock like The Mars Volta and Dredg, RIO/Avant like Fantomas and OOIOO, etc..........
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:08 |
Owl 3 wrote:
I see-- you mean a *breakthrough* band that takes the best of those elements and does something digestable to a larger audience?
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Exactly! 
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:08 |
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Right on!
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:10 |
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As always, it depends on how you define Prog.
There will always exist a progressive approach to music, but if for you Prog is a movement that happened in the 70's, then Prog is already dead.
Edited by RaślGuate - October 02 2006 at 00:10
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:13 |
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Of course, and that's the beauty of the progressive approach; it can be similar or it can be different as long as it brings something reasonably new to the table
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:15 |
Owl 3 wrote:
I see-- you mean a *breakthrough* band that takes the best of those elements and does something digestable to a larger audience?
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That question has The Mars Volta all over it. IMO they are that breakthrough band that hopefully others will follow.
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:26 |
yea TMV are def that band. hope there can be more. DT is def one of them, though more on the metal spectrum of prog.
there needs to be a great prog band which incorporates funk really well, and other things, for i think my band is the answer to that
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:31 |
No stagnation possible. The future of Prog is unlimited.
Prog contains elements of rock, jazz, classical, middle-eastern, gypsy, folk, Celtic, avant garde, indigenous and who knows what else.
The only limit is the composer and the muscians playing the composition.
The audience is made up of listeners who have an open mind (and ear  ) to innovative and well crafted sounds.
A brief timeline of prog shows it's growth and diversity:
The Sixties
Beatles, Moody Blues, Frank Zappa, King Crimson, Fairport Convention, Soft Machine, Pentangle, The Nice
The Seventies
Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, ELP, Jethro Tull, VdGG, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Magma, Rush, Return to Forever, Gentle Giant
The Eighties
Brian Eno, Vangelis, Kraftwerk, Marillion, Klaus Schulze, Tangerine Dream, Peter Gabriel, The Residents
The Nineties
Savatage, Ozric Tentacles, Lengendary Pink Dots, Primus, Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, Tool, IQ, Anekdoten, Spocks Beard, Radiohead
21st Century
Godspeed You Black Emperor!, White Willow, Taal, Behold....the Arctopus, The Tangent, The Mars Volta, Beyond Twilight, Kayo Dot, Riverside, Indukti, Pure Reason Revolution
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Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:37 |
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I dig that, Schitz, and I like the decadal breakdown.
darkshade: I'm afraid I'm not a huge DT fan, but Liquid Tension Experiment, now *there's* a phenomenal band with some occasionally gonk-ish Levinisms, though I don't see them 'breaking through' much more than they already have.
Edited by Owl 3 - October 02 2006 at 00:45
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:43 |
Owl 3 wrote:
I dig that, Schitz, and I like the decadal breakdown.
darkshade: I'm afraid I'm not a huge DT fan, but Liquid Tension Experiment, now *there's* a phenominal band with some occasionally gonk-ish Levinisms, though I don't see them 'breaking through' much more than they already have. |
Thanks. It was fun doing it.
Prog will still be here when all of us are long gone.
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Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:44 |
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I have little doubt, though perhaps unrecognizable...
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:52 |
Owl 3 wrote:
I dig that, Schitz, and I like the decadal breakdown.
darkshade: I'm afraid I'm not a huge DT fan, but Liquid Tension Experiment, now *there's* a phenomenal band with some occasionally gonk-ish Levinisms, though I don't see them 'breaking through' much more than they already have.
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oh i love LTE, probably more than DT. but they're done, and probably not getting back together. itdbe great if they were bigger, though im sure every DT fan knows and owns their 2 albums, so they probably are.
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:58 |
...and it's a shame, too, but it kinda' makes them special and unspoiled. Luckily I hear Planet X is prepping a new CD with Holdsworth on guitar! 
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 01:16 |
For about a year now I've thought that something really interesting would be prog-hop: put a couple rappers on top of prog instrumentation. From what I've heard, the opening to a track of The Mars Volta's new offering Amputechture does exactly that.
Prog's not going... er, staying... anywhere!
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 01:18 |
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There is a lot of hope for prog fans in the near and distant future, particularly if you're the type to appreciate the new sounds of bands like Opeth, Mars Volta, Riverside, etc.
I personally am very excited about several new bands that have emerged since 1995 or so, and I believe that it is very likely that we will see even more great acts debut in the near future.
After all, now that such a huge amount of recorded prog material is out there, musicians have more and more influences to draw upon. That means, as long as you have an open mind, you have a lot to look forward to.
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