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Points: 13032 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2006 at 22:10
A couple of years ago i couldn`t get into it too... now i can suggest two of a bands that i sympathize very much:
 
Collage and Quidam.... the second one with female vocals... im not an expert in the genre, but believe me , both are great bands....
 
and for me... i dont like Pendragon at all

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try collage - moonshine! it is the best neo prog album ever made!
 
try also saens - hands of god
 
satellite
 
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jadis - more than meets the eye
 
iluvatar - children
 
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yeah.. Moonshine is awesome.. but something happens to me.. that i prefer a bit more Basnie for some strange reason...

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Points: 3300 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2006 at 22:33
Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

yeah.. Moonshine is awesome.. but something happens to me.. that i prefer a bit more Basnie for some strange reason...
 
i don't like the sound of basnie.


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Originally posted by lightbulb_son lightbulb_son wrote:

I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong here. For some reason I just cannot completely get into neo-prog. It seems odd that I am in love with Marillion and IQ's albums, but I can't find anything else I like. Right now I'm completely infatuated with Marbles, but I started neo-prog with Script For A Jester's Tear and Dark Matter. I love these discs and lots of Marillion and IQ's others. My usual music is PT, post-rock, Symphonic, Italian, and some progressive metal.
 
Did I start too high, and now everything else will seem mediocre?
 
Are Marillion and IQ the only good neo-prog bands?
 
Anyone else struggling with this genre?
 
 
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Yes you started too high, Marillion and IQ are amongst the best you can find, but there are numerous bands that are alike, and if you want similar sounding bands that's not hard to do, if you however want something unique within the Neo-prog style, that's a bit harder to do.
 
Best of the Bunch IMO:
 
Pendragon : Window Of Life, Masquerade overture, Not Of This World,
Arena: Pride, The Visitor, Contagion.
Clepsydra: More Grains of Sand, Hologram
Collage: Moonshine
Saens: Prophet in a statistical World, Escaping from the hands of God
Satellite: A street between sunrise and sunset
Shadowland: Ring Of Roses
Aufklärung: de la tempesta
Fish: Vigil in a wilderness of mirrors, Raingods with zippo's
Twelfth Night: Fact and Fiction
Discipline: Unfolded like staircase
Jadis: More Than Meets the eye
Pallas: Beat The Drum
Landmarq: Solitary Witness
Shakary: Alya
 
I'd start with Aufklärung if I where you, for it has that typical itallian flavour added to there sympho sound, maybe Discipline will do also, more than the others it is inspired by Van Der Graaf Generator, which gives it some unique quality IMO. of course Arena and Pendragon needs to be listened too aswell.
 
another band that i like to mention is not regarded as neo-progressive, but I regard it as a neo-progressive band:
 
Echolyn: Mei and Suffocating the Bloom are both excellent, as is the rest of their material.
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I can handle IQ without the vocalist.   He makes every song sound the same. Unhappy
 
I agree with Arena. Magenta is okay too.
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I highly recommend Red Sand if you love Script for a Jester's Tear.
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I'm very much the same way. I liked Marillion and IQ a lot, but then there was a number of other neo-prog bands I didn't like. I did however enjoy these albums:

Arena: Contagion
Aufklarung: de la Tempesta
Satellite: A Street Between Sunrise and Sunset

Maybe that will help.
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Who needs Neo when there's so much else?      
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Try "Believe" by Pendragon, if you found Masquerade Overture 'not the thing for you' you will find some different sounds and structures on Believe, check out some of the samples on the website (www.pendragon.mu) I was (and still am) amazed by this album!

For other stuff, have you tried other Jadis? or Steve Thorne's debut?

Out of the Arena paddock, my favourite is definitely Immortal?........... but we all have our quirks, its about wether or not you feel it, this is music , not science!
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violet district
 
pablo el enterrador
 
clepsydra
 
sagrado coraçao da terra (a blend of neo & sympho)
 
casino (with the great Geoff Mann on vocals)
 
shadowland (the album 'ring of roses', if you want an alternatove to the fish-like voice, with a more roberth smith-like voice)
 
colin bass - an outcast of the island
 
martin orford (keyboardist for IQ, his solo album is really sublime)
 
Saga - heads or tales
 
Michael Sadler - clear (vocalist for SAGA)
 
IONA - beyond these shores (a blend of neo, pop and celtic folk)
 
 


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And also worth mentioning :
 
It bites
 
Shaun Guerin
 
Mario Millo (Windchase, Sebastian Hardie)
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Twelfth Night's "Fact and Fiction" and "Live at the Target" are fantastic examples of Neo Prog - even though both were released before it became recognised as a genre.

I would also include Genesis "Duke" as the earliest Neo-Prog album, even though it's a bit of a crossover in many ways. It's a fantastic album, if you don't mind good tunes!
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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Twelfth Night's "Fact and Fiction" and "Live at the Target" are fantastic examples of Neo Prog - even though both were released before it became recognised as a genre.

I would also include Genesis "Duke" as the earliest Neo-Prog album, even though it's a bit of a crossover in many ways. It's a fantastic album, if you don't mind good tunes!


I recently rated Pink Floyd - The Wall on my website ... and IMHO it's Neo Prog.Smile Surely that's stretching the definition, but it's just definitely not classic prog.
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 09:36
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Twelfth Night's "Fact and Fiction" and "Live at the Target" are fantastic examples of Neo Prog - even though both were released before it became recognised as a genre.

I would also include Genesis "Duke" as the earliest Neo-Prog album, even though it's a bit of a crossover in many ways. It's a fantastic album, if you don't mind good tunes!


I recently rated Pink Floyd - The Wall on my website ... and IMHO it's Neo Prog.Smile Surely that's stretching the definition, but it's just definitely not classic prog.


I dont know, theres not a hell of a lot, if anything, on The Wall that I would consider Neo, not sure what you would call it though.
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Maybe a new word is in order, such as "clao" (combination of "classic" and "neo"). Or "nesic".Wink
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Here are some possibilities:
 
Arena:  The Visitor, Contagion
Pallas:  The Cross and The Crucible, The Dreams of Men
Shaun Guerin:  The Epic Quality of Life
Citizen Cain:  Somewhere But Yesterday 
Strangefish:  Fortune Telling
 
These albums are classed as either Neo or Symphonic here, but I think they are all on the boundaries of the two sub-genres.  Also, If you have only Dark Matter by IQ, you might pick up Ever, and/or Tales from the Lush Attic.  If you lean towards a more metal sound, Arena or Pallas should fit the bill, while still having some symphonic elements.  Shaun Guerin and Citizen Cain are more Genesis-like, and Strangefish is unique, perhaps trending toward the Spock's Beard sound.
 
 
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2006 at 10:14
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Maybe a new word is in order, such as "clao" (combination of "classic" and "neo"). Or "nesic".Wink

LOL
Maybe, but classic prog isnt a genre, it covers Art, Symphonic and others.

How about "Strange unclassified stuff"Wink
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Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Who needs Neo when there's so much else?      
 
well said!!ClapClapClap
I am so much obsessed with '70's prog (virtually of all kinds) that I can hardly find time to get into neo stuff..
Like lightbulb_son, however; I have a tendency towards those two bands anyway. I like Marillion (and absolutely Fish-era only) probably because they were among the first prog bands I started to listen...
about IQ, not so sure.... erm... maybe because they make so great musicLOL?
Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
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