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Vibrationbaby 
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Posted: September 16 2006 at 14:35 |
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The Miracle
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Posted: September 16 2006 at 14:42 |
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Philéas
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Posted: September 16 2006 at 14:45 |
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The song Rhayader by Camel. That defines the '70s sound for me.
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Posted: September 16 2006 at 16:15 |
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Yes's Gates of Delirium has my vote for quinessential progressive rock, particularly the live version on YesShows.
Edited by Proteus - September 16 2006 at 16:16
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Liquid Len
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Posted: September 16 2006 at 16:26 |
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Posted: September 16 2006 at 16:41 |
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I normally use the term Prog as an abbreviated form of the term Progressive Rock, so, in a nutshell, it is rock music that is progressive in nature, as opposed to rock music that is a bit progressive in places.
To be progressive in nature, a song or album must satisfy three simple criteria;
1. That it is progressive in all 5 of the basic elements of music.
2. That it is also lyrically progressive.
3. That it is clearly the artists' intention to create a progressive work of art, not simply to play in what is considered to be a progressive style.
Obviously none of this can happen in a vacuum, but there is always something both subjective and relative about measuring quality in music.
Even the terms "rock music" and "progressive" are subjective to some degree - but that's part of what makes analysing Prog Rock so much fun!
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martinprog77
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 04:40 |
 Philéas wrote:
The song Rhayader by Camel. That defines the '70s sound for me.
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Nothing can last
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Mikerinos
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 08:47 |
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SolariS
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 13:11 |
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Think about the definiton of the word 'progressive'. If a band these days re-uses the same sounds as a 70's prog band, is that band really making progress on any sound or style of music? NO, it's actually regressive.
For me, progressive rock is not a static genre. It's not even a well-defined genre. It only characterizes the mindset of a band who intends to use their musical talent to create an original sound or idea. In the 70's, bands like genesis and yes were considered progressive because they were creating a new sound for rock. If a band tried to follow their sound now, it would no longer be "making progress" since it has already been done before.
Progressive Rock = Innovation, Originality, Experimentalism
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MadcapLaughs84
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 18:05 |
Prog is something that's not easy to define. The song that could define progressive rock prefectly ineach element could be "Close To The Edge" or "Machine Messiah" by Yes
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martinprog77
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Posted: September 18 2006 at 03:57 |
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jplanet
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Posted: September 18 2006 at 12:41 |
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Things can be proggie in different ways for me. For the most part, I'd define it as rock music that incorporates melodies that would be too melodic for traditional rock-and-roll, more based on diatonic scales than pentatonic blues.
Added points for use of unusual time signatures, recurring themes, longer songs...
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Posted: September 18 2006 at 15:01 |
Prog is a multi-faceted Diamond!
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The Lost Chord
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Posted: September 18 2006 at 15:11 |
My definition:
The greatest music ever, existing between 1965 and 1979 wherabouts.
Blending of different genres with a basis of rock and roll and psych. Key elemnts that make it prog are the Synths and pianos used at the time and the drumming and sound quality.
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mrgd
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 21:25 |
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IMO, GENTLE GIANT.
They took the then emerging progression in rock music, refined and crafted it, wrapped it shiny cellophane,tied a ribbon around it with a bow and left it under the Christmas tree of every enthusiast who was or is prepared to embrace the challenge that their music offers.
[NB.Please, I'm not suggesting you have to be a Christian to enjoy prog or GG. I am ,of course ,speaking metaphorically. Is it necessary to explain this ? I hope not because there is no offence meant].
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Looking still the same after all these years...
mrgd
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: September 21 2006 at 11:43 |
mystic fred wrote:
Prog is a multi-faceted Diamond!
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Phil Collins is guilty of crimes against prog 
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