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Prog-jester 
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 Posted: September 11 2006 at 06:18 |
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EXTROVERT!!!!!!!!!
Great Russian Prog-Metal band.They're even better than DT,despite the likeness in some aspects.They're not clones,but pretty close...Check their "Awakening the Ocean" 2005 - I ain't a fan of traditional Prog-Metal,but this album kicks a lot of a$$e$ !!!
It's a shame that they're still not here!!!
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Padraic
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 07:36 |
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As I explore more prog metal, I've still not come across a band that
beats DT for me personally. Maybe Symphony X or Opeth comes close.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 09:50 |
 OpethGuitarist wrote:
btw as for the YouTube video
Kiko isn't the fastest and he's also not very precise, not to mention he's boring as hell.
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No one is saying he is the fastest, but he is very precise (Listen to his solo album)
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Bj-1
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 09:59 |
I think Meshuggah blows all other ProgMetal I've heard out on the water. I don't care if they doesn't have "emotion" etc. I just think their music is better. DT and SX both comes close behind though.
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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BePinkTheater
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 10:18 |
See I've never been able to 'get' Meshuggah.
I really don't see the technicallity in there. i just hear really raw and gross chords going over and over with growling vocals...
Maybe I'll see it one day, but not today.
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I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
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slowfire85
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 10:39 |
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Psychotic waltz is a great tech/psych metal band with great vocals. They generally are considered to be as good as watchtower/fates warning, but to me their vocalist blows them all away. Anyone who can sit through 60+ minutes of spastik inc. and not want to dunk their head under water is a brave person. Meshuggah is great but a little to repetitive to be up their with the best.
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What is prog rock ?
It is music that does progress. Progressive music takes a riff, turns it inside out, plays it upside down and the other way around, and explores its potential.
K.Emerson
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Padraic
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 10:48 |
BePinkTheater wrote:
See I've never been able to 'get' Meshuggah. |
Same here. What samples I've heard on their PA page left me cold. I might try an album by them in the future, but probably not any time soon. What's odd is that the Pain of Salvation album I just purchased didn't do anything for me either, and this band is supposed to be on the opposite end of the emotional spectrum. Go figure.
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Yito
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 11:10 |
The skills of Dream Theater is very hard to reach, but not imposible; but the composition level of DT is almost imposible to reach.
-sorry for my bad english-
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Psalm 96
1 Sing to the LORD a new song;
sing to the LORD, all the earth.
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Asphalt
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 14:15 |
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well, not to blow yer candle there, but DT aren't alone, neither on the composition level, nor on the techincality one; and while we're at it, their last two studio outputs haven't quite been up to the level
as mentioned, bands like Pain Of Salvation or Psychotic Waltz hava had a far more constant streak of good albums with outsanding output of techincal skill [without standing in the way of their songwriting ]; not to mention bands such as Arcturus, Sieges Even, Sleepytime Gorrila Museum or SikTh, or recent outputs such as Beyond Twilight's For The Love...
p.s.: this is coming from a guy who's no 2 all time favourite albums is DT's Metropolis SFAM
Edited by Asphalt - September 11 2006 at 14:16
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 14:40 |
^ all the bands that you mention (except maybe for Arcturus) are on a stellar level of musicianship and compositional skill, so it seems kind of silly to me to talk about them like a few of them totally suck, and a few others are totally ahead of the rest. I guess that we sometimes forget that musicians make their music not just to "show off" ... they don't need to prove that they can play, it's plain to see. Sometimes less is more, and - to quote Devin Townsend - "Life is all dynamics", and so is music. 
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Trickster F.
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 15:11 |
SolariS wrote:
Dragonforce
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Stole my response.
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stonebeard
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 15:15 |
NaturalScience wrote:
BePinkTheater wrote:
See I've never been able to 'get' Meshuggah. |
Same here. What samples I've heard on their PA page left me cold. I might try an album by them in the future, but probably not any time soon.
What's odd is that the Pain of Salvation album I just purchased didn't do anything for me either, and this band is supposed to be on the opposite end of the emotional spectrum. Go figure.
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Which album by PoS do you have?
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Padraic
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 15:17 |
stonebeard wrote:
Which album by PoS do you have? |
Remedy Lane. Edit: It still hasn't had enough plays for me to really give it fair judgement, but it certainly didn't grab me at all immediately.
Edited by NaturalScience - September 11 2006 at 15:18
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stonebeard
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 15:20 |
NaturalScience wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Which album by PoS do you have? |
Remedy Lane.
Edit: It still hasn't had enough plays for me to really give it fair judgement, but it certainly didn't grab me at all immediately.
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Padraic
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 15:22 |
Don't cry stoney, I'll try harder, I promise. 
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sleeper
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 16:00 |
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^You should try The Perfect Element (they have about 20-30 minutes of it up for free download on their website), and I think they pretty much match DT technically in most aspects on that album as well.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Benjamin_Breeg
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 16:22 |
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In my opinion Angra is the only band that can close Dream Theater technically speaking.
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patomtz
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Location: Mexico
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 16:52 |
what about Ice Age, or lemur voice...
Spherical Universe Experience, is a band that totally blows DT, with their debut album Mental Torments, I really dont know why they are not on the archives... Ive asked many times to add them, but nobody answers!
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I still can't get how Dream Theater music is created by humans
Dream Theater in Monterrey, Mexico 03.03.06 Unforgettable
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OpethGuitarist
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 17:39 |
BePinkTheater wrote:
See I've never been able to 'get' Meshuggah.
I really don't see the technicallity in there. i just hear really raw and gross chords going over and over with growling vocals...
Maybe I'll see it one day, but not today. |
attempt to play Meshuggah (drums/guitars) and you will understand the drumming is near impossible to get down correctly on some songs
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back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums
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Cristi
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 16:36 |
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Pain of Salvation.
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