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bluetailfly
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 12:12 |
marktheshark wrote:
We've all heard the countless claims Frank made over the years that he only smoked pot once and didn't like it. Didn't do LSD, Heroine, Coke or anything else other than ciggies, coffee and wine occasionally (and of course burn't weenie sandwiches). But a lot of people have had some doubts as a result of his music and usual antics. There have even been stories of him being seen snorting and even injecting!
Personally I believe it. His music was just way too sophisticated and complex for an average stoner to compose. Not to mention how well he took care of his family and brought up his kids. And one thing Frank was not was a phoney. Pretentiousness was an absolute no-no in his world. What say you?
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Zappa wrote in his autobiography that througout the sixties he tried pot appox. 10 times and that he didn't like it because it made him sleepy. He said if he would have liked it, he would have continued to smoke it, because he liked to smoke. Cigarettes to him, he said, were like food.
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"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."
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Dr4Wazo
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 13:37 |
Empathy wrote:
I believe him.
I am a tad taken aback at your assertion that all people who do drugs
are incable of writing sophisticated music, or maintaining a proper
family.
That seems like an unfair sterotype to me.
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It doesn't help.
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"Mëem Otsilennhetëe Dros Sun Surra Steuhn Do Nansei"
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 15:10 |
Dick Heath wrote:
Drug-free but at the same time notorious for dosing up on penicillin before tours to ward off doses of the clap from the groupies that inhabited backstage. Where do you think the experience for songs like Why does it hurt when I pee, come form? |
I believe that perticular song was about a band member. Which one I don't know without looking it up.
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Philéas
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 15:25 |
Does it matter?
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King of Loss
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 15:27 |
Philéas wrote:
Does it matter?
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cuncuna
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 15:32 |
Zappa was plain weird a diabolically genius. Smoking marihuana would probably disturbed his composition work, so I guess "drug free" it is; if he says so.
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¡Beware of the Bee!
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maani
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Posted: August 25 2006 at 14:44 |
Zappa was not always drug-free. He dabbled in more than just marijuana, but stopped doing all drugs fairly early. He certainly did not stop prior to beginning recording in 1966, and likely continued until at least the early 70s. Why he would lie about it is his own business.
Peace.
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Empathy
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Posted: August 25 2006 at 14:57 |
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Pure Brilliance:
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: August 25 2006 at 23:05 |
I think similar claims have been made by Patton (or for him), and I believe both. To me, that certain kind of madness that they orchestrate can only come from a calculated, well thought out person, which is marred by drug use
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goose
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Posted: August 26 2006 at 04:21 |
Well Patton only plays non-smoking gigs to preserve his voice, so I doubt he's smoking anything else, at least, in his spare time.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: August 26 2006 at 05:47 |
did not read the thread (no time).
Zappa's music certainly sound like he was on drugs.
Most likely he got high on air and life.
But the man did smoke ciggies, drink coffee (both drugs)
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 26 2006 at 22:32 |
Hm.......maybe he did SO many drugs that he dosn't remember doing them.
No no, I believe Zappa. I dont think he would lie, and like many have said why would he? What would be the point of lying?
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DallasBryan
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 15:38 |
if you ever did LSD and (not at the same time) and watched 200 Motels, you would know the answer, NO BRAINER!
His whole band was on acid in the 60's. Heroin I would think was Frank's baby, he finished the acid experiment early on.
Swiss tiles..........
Edited by DallasBryan - August 27 2006 at 15:42
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Arsillus
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Posted: August 27 2006 at 15:50 |
Most likely- he probably didn't need them. I heard his dad was like a scientist and Frank would play with mercury and other dangerous chemicals when it was considered okay to do so. That kind of exposure would mess anybody up for a lifetime.
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DallasBryan
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 10:15 |
maani wrote:
Zappa was not always drug-free. He dabbled in more than just marijuana, but stopped doing all drugs fairly early. He certainly did not stop prior to beginning recording in 1966, and likely continued until at least the early 70s. Why he would lie about it is his own business.
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take it from the pro!
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SolariS
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 22:44 |
I like FZ, so I'm going to go with the drug free option.
I guess the only people that really know are his friends and family..
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Drew
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Posted: September 05 2006 at 23:57 |
no, but who knows.
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I|I|I|I|I
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Posted: September 08 2006 at 17:16 |
Philéas wrote:
Does it matter?
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No.
That being said, can we still speculate? I didn't hear of any rules that we couldn't discuss things that don't matter.
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Go and listen to my music.
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31725
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Pneubauer
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Posted: September 08 2006 at 18:43 |
Dr4Wazo wrote:
Empathy wrote:
I believe him.
I am a tad taken aback at your assertion that all people who do drugs
are incable of writing sophisticated music, or maintaining a proper
family.
That seems like an unfair sterotype to me.
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It doesn't help.
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Says who?
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Visitor13
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 12:06 |
I believe Maani.
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