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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2006 at 11:49

  Two of my favourites from that time were always Nurse With Wound and Throbbing gristle. Can't go a lot wrong with any of their recordings. Although, if I am unfamiliar with an artist I always start early. One wouldn't want to buy 'Human' by 'The Human League cos then one would never hear 'Being Boiled'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2006 at 11:53

  Might start a thread about The Human League. I have (subconsciously) ? mentioned them well more than I should. Possible zeuhl connection ? haha ! But there was a definate connection between the water supplies of Sheffield, UK and Nancy, France. Just have to prove it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2006 at 12:04

  To stay zeuhl related I had a rummage around the upstairs an' found me paper edition Eskaton 7"
(shoddy camera work again. Apologies) 








Available on the mighty Soleil Zeuhl label reissue cd
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2006 at 16:37
Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:


  Might start a thread about The Human League. I have
(subconsciously) ? mentioned them well more than I should. Possible
zeuhl connection ? haha ! But there was a definate connection between
the water supplies of Sheffield, UK and Nancy, France. Just have to
prove it


Haha, I think you would be more than welcome to start a thread. But then again it depends a lot of how many people are farmilar with the band, it would be interesting to see what sort of replies you would get.
I would definately agree there are ties from UK and France, just think how close they are. Surely some ideas were smuggled across the channel.

Also thanks for the pictures.

I was just listening to a CD this morning upon waking up and I was wondering what people thought of Shub-Niggurath's 1991 album C'Étaient De Très Grands Vents. I know nearly every man and his dog has heard there first and this seemingly get mixed reaction. But for me personally I have grown a percuilar like towards this second fully album of theirs. Needless to say it a far it more experimental than their first but giving persistance this is something very worth while. I just want to know what other people think? Also is their '94 album worth getting. The site only has one rating with no reviews at all.

Also is there no love on this site for Olive Mess or Uppsala?
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2006 at 04:01

   Olive Mess ! Great name for a band. Is this following Henry Cow(ell) ? Olive(r) Mess(ian) perhaps ? ! Never heard of 'em BV. Zeuhl ?

    Also never heard the '94 Shub cd. In fact, I didn't even know it had been released ! I'm living in the past somewhat.

     Have to admit the 2nd Shub has never really grown on me. Maybe if their debut wasn't so strong I might not have expected so much.

    Anyone familiar with Yog Sothoth ? Very powerful zeuhl from the late seventies if memory serves.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2006 at 04:38
Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:


   Olive Mess ! Great name for a band. Is this following
Henry Cow(ell) ? Olive(r) Mess(ian) perhaps ? ! Never heard of 'em BV.
Zeuhl ?



Ah yes you are very correct with your second guess. Not to mention good seeing another Henry Cowell fan . The band was named after the 20th century French composser Olivie Messian. Also not to mention the bands love for Olives For a lativan band they have a lot of French influecnce (especially in there lyrics), hence the Zeuhl leanings in their music. They are quite an odd band, mixing what seems to me tradional Latvian folk music with dark Zeuhl passages. I have written their bio for this site if you want a little more information. And yes they are Zeuhl.

    
Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:


     Have to admit the 2nd Shub has never really
grown on me. Maybe if their debut wasn't so strong I might not have
expected so much.


Yes for some reason I cannot really explain why I like their second so much, I think it has something to do with the atomsphere. It is really something hard to explain.


Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:


    Anyone familiar with Yog Sothoth ? Very powerful zeuhl from the late seventies if memory serves.


No I'm afraid this name doesn't even ring any bells with me Do you by any chance have anymore information you can share with us?
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2006 at 05:11

                 this is the fella:


http://cgi.ebay.com/YOG-SOTHOTH-RARE-ZEUHL-FRENCH-LP-MAGMA_W0QQitemZ250017229086QQcmdZViewItem
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2006 at 05:21

      Some more info on the mighty Yog:


http://www.agarthaprog.com/default.asp?pg=1&pag=allreviews&tip=relics&iniziale=y


                 Any Italian speakers willing to translate this ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2006 at 05:25
Are you are going to force me into yet another purchase. Now if only I had an ebay account

I have been trying to look for some information and there really doesn't seem to be much of anything does there! I keep getting references to H.P. Lovecraft

What are some other Zeuhl project you would recommend which are not on this sight? I'm really looks to expand my thoughts about Zeuhl and I think you might be the perfect person to help me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2006 at 05:37
Here we are:

"Artist: YOG SOTHOTH
Album: Yog Sothoth
Year: 1984

Yog Sothoth, that is one of the more terrible creatures and fascinating protagonists of the saghe of H.P. Lovercraft, master and founder indiscusso of the contemporary orrorifica literature, heir of authors like Poe or Hodgson, of which it made synthesis migliorativa, sublimando some and perfecting of the inspiration.
What therefore to attend from these French if not left music and alarming? … effectively our expectations come satisfied, even if, in primis, it goes said that the base on which they rest the brani of this disc unexpectedly turns out constituted from avant-jazz of French school, as soon as “soiled” with magmiane atmospheres (rilette in key sure more picked regarding Vander and associates), played shiningly from musicians it equips to you much, and enriched from a remarkable job of it arches and breaths that allow meaningfully to recover and to graft on the aforesaid premises strong infuences of classic contemporary: we are therefore in presence of one varying less frequent regarding the more usual situation for many “alternated you” of the school darker franc-Belgian (Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Vortex…) in which the classic contemporary it is placed like source of if by far not only dominant inspiration.
The brani alternate complex parts, strongly structured and premeditated, to passages less compounds, dedicates you to the improvisation on canovaccio, however absolutely never banal, it discounts to you or become simpler to you.

The adopted instrumentation, beside battery, contrabbasso, slowly, breaths and arches, clearly dominant, parcamente contemplates also of the keyboards, used a lot, and comes integrated from vocalizes feminine, raising the total musical restlessness rate.
A rich disc of personality and quality, unfortunately for still not reprinted hour on cd.

Not there is trippa for the sinfonici puristi, to avoid from part of the lovers of prog the more solar and little dissonante, lively advised to all the others.
… I forgot: the pornobambola usual used who characterizes the object photographed in cover (is recommended, writes to Agartha, not to the Carrà!)"


Not the best translation but at least it is understandable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2006 at 06:00

       You may be become credit card blacklisted if you go down this route BV !


So many great zeuhl relics not available on cd. Off me head:

LP only

  Eider Stellaire 1 and 2
  St. Erhart
  Ex Vitae
  Metabolist
  Resonanse 2
  Yog Sothoth
  Hiatus
  Noa
  Bedjabetch
  Verto (maybe on cd. Haven't checked)
  Komintern (not zeuhl but bizarre French jazz-rock)
  Music Is My Honey (Theleme label compilation)
  Evohe

Essential zeuhl available on cd: (only listing the more obscure here)

   Archaia
   Vortex
   Pataphonie ('Le Matin Blanc'. Whatever you do don't bother with their 1st !)
   Hellebore
   Honeyelk (again haven't checked)
   Xaal
   Kultivator

  
             
  
  
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2006 at 06:24
Thank you for this. Most of the strickly LP ones go straight over my head, Other than Eider Stellaire some of the names sound vage but that is about the extent of things. Luckly enough I have a vinyl play, it is just the prices of the actual vinyl which is going to be the issue here
 
On the CD side of things they are looking better. I have heard of all of those bands by name, but not on musical terms. I have been looking into Archaia though, from discriptions I have heard this one is really interesting me. Supposedly very dark atomsphere (correct me if I am wrong), figurse when looking at the cover!
 
Also I read your review on Hellebore, which kept me thorough entertain (needless to comment of the humour throughout ), and to say the least has intreged my mind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2006 at 15:38

       Buy the Archaia cd BV an' don't look back. May be a bit mellow for you but it is one helluva classic release. I made my usual drunk feelings on the matter here:


                  http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5701
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2006 at 15:48


     Yes I know that is a shocking review. Any way to edit these ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2006 at 16:11
You want to edit the review?
Send a PM to Atkingani or Easy Livin' and tell them waht you want to be changed.
I am planning on getting that album as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2006 at 16:13


     Thanks Avestin !


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2006 at 18:07
Yukorin, your reviews never fail to amuse and entertain me. Which is a good factor by the way! It many have even pushed me that little bit further to go and buy it. I'm might have a look sometime soon to see if my store can order it in, I'm assuming it is still available from soleil zeuhl? Or is this one going to be a wild goose chase!

I don't think mellow is going to be a problem, it is always nice to get away from the intensity of things every now and again. Give my poor head a rest.

On another note I was sorting through the mess on my computer and I came across Verto (one of the above mentioned bands). I only have one song "Et Terre" which I like, has almost a Krautrock feel to it with percuilar distortion to the guitars. I think I the found song somewhere on one of the numerous NNW list sites. I will have to do some more search to see what I can dig up from the archives.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2006 at 12:35


    Kind words BV !

I have Verto 'Krig/Volubilis on vinyl an' have to admit I haven't listened to her for a bit.


         Found a review on the Julian Cope website


http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/review/1521


               (expect the usual hyperbole)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2006 at 12:41
    I finally got a copy of "Eros," and it is good. I didn't know what to expect at all, having only heard Magma.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2006 at 12:42


    I can't quite make ol' Copey out. For someone who has a blind love of krautrock and Magma and regularly writes about obscure progresssive music from around the world he does love to sl*g off the ol' prog. I like his writing style and have a couple of books of his but he seems to try too hard to force an image of himself.
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