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xtopher
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Topic: Most Wanted Prog Supergroup Posted: August 10 2006 at 03:25 |
Here's the deal: come up with a complete band of musicians to form a unique-sounding prog supergroup. Don't just come up with the "ultimate prog group (like the thread from March);" put some thought behind your decisions and explain why you chose those particular individuals. In fact, it would be great if you can describe the kind of music they would make, and how it would make them unique.
I shall start it out:
Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree): guitar, vocals, production
Kevin Moore (Chroma Key): keyboards, vocals
Mariusz Duda (Riverside): bass, vocals
Mark Zonder (Fates Warning): drumkit
They would expand on Moore's spacey work with Chroma Key, and would often be hypnotic, ambient, and occassionally minimalist, but would never lose sight of it's harder, meaner, more extreme side. Moore would also lend in his programming skills which are so solid with OSI—I think he and Wilson would really hit it off with their affinity towards sound effects. Moore's beautifully morose voice would take the lead in the bleakest, most minimalist tracks. Wilson would sing in more upbeat tracks, while Duda would sing in atmospheric, rhythmic tracks and in metal moments. Wilson would direct vocal harmonies, thus creating the lush vocal sound we all love from his PT output. And Duda's atmospheric bass playing would go perfectly with Moore's lonely synth work.
And Zonder would fit perfectly here, as he has previous experience with Moore and has a style somewhat similar to Gavin Harrison's (at least to my non-drummer ears). I think he would fit well with Duda, too. If there's one complaint I have about Riverside, it's the drumming. It just seems to get lost in the shuffle. Maybe it's just mixed in poorly; I don't know. But Zonder should be able to take care of this.
So yeah. Fire away, everybody.
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 03:34 |
Good Concept
Here is my band which I imagine would be quite unique:
Vangelis (Solo, Aphrodite's Child)/ Keybaords, Synthesizers
Ian Anderson(Jethro Tull)/ Vocals, Flute, Acoustic Guitar
Chris Squire (Yes)/ Bass
Steve Hackett (Genesis)/ Guitars
Mike Portnoy/(Dream Theater) Drums, Percussion
Edited by Australian - August 10 2006 at 03:36
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Sacred 22
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 03:36 |
Ok, here goes. Don't laugh OK. Alright.........let me think..........hmmmmmm.
I really do get a kick out of your Avatar. Ok, where was I??? Oh ya.
OK.
Steve Howe..........guitars (I love his multi-facited style)
Jon Anderson.........lead vocals (He has really cool lyrics and his voise is kinda unique)
Chris Squire............Bass (man can that guy play)
Bill Bruford.............Drums (always liked a guy who could weave a jazz style behind the kit)
Rick Wakeman.......Keyboards (He makes a mean curry)
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Australian
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 03:38 |
That is definatly the BEST band ever.
good ol' Yes
Edited by Australian - August 10 2006 at 03:38
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iguana
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 03:50 |
ok – how about
STEVE HOWE of YES on guitar,
who could lend his unique and instantly recognisable
guitar stylistics to an experienced group of musicians
and thus put his own stamp on the music and raise
the uniqueness of the material.
JOHN WETTON of KING CRIMSON, UK and many more
an experienced musician and master bass player with
an excellent instantly recognisable singing voice, who
is also a gifted songwriter with a knack for unexpected
twists and turns.
CARL PALMER of ELP
certainly rated amongs the world's top percussionists
and also a highly individual stylist, known from being
an expert supporting team member as well as an
outstanding showman plus being a creative force on
the drum set and thus leading the music to places
it would normaly not reach.
GEOFF DOWNES of THE BUGGLES and YES
not just a master pianist and organist but also on the
cutting edge of technology who can also tastefully imply
a quirky synth pop sensibility into the proceedings and thus
keep his virtuoso bandmates at bay if necessary.
certainly a man to guarantee taste and restraint while
still being able to raise the musicality bar once more.
hang on a sec... what year is it?
Edited by iguana - August 10 2006 at 05:52
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 03:53 |
Ok, let's start with Pierre Moerlen on drums. Not only is he my
favourite drummer, he is also a virtuoso on all kinds of tuned
percussion instruments; he was not awarded the prestigious "premier
prix du percussion" of the academy of Strasbourg for nothing.
Then I have to choose another member of Gong: Didier Malherbe on
woodwinds. No-one else plays such a huge variety of woodwinds as he,
including self-designed ones like the so-called zeff.
On guitar, oud and various other exotic string instruments: Roman Bunka of Embryo. Again I go for the variety of sounds.
We should have some cello in the band, and here I go for Frank Wulf of
the Frankfurter Kurorchester (despite the name they were not an
orchestra, but a prog band, although an obscure one). No-one can make a
cello rock like Frank Wulf. On stage he even performed antics like
playing the cello behind his head in Hendrix style or running around
while playing.
Barbara Dennerlein on organ; we won't need a bass player that way,
because she provides the bass with the foot pedals of her organ.
They would play a kind of fusion with oriental influences and some odd experiments.
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xtopher
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 04:00 |
Sacred 22 wrote:
Ok, here goes. Don't laugh OK. Alright.........let me think..........hmmmmmm.
I really do get a kick out of your Avatar. Ok, where was I??? Oh ya.
OK.
Steve Howe..........guitars (I love his multi-facited style)
Jon Anderson.........lead vocals (He has really cool lyrics and his voise is kinda unique)
Chris Squire............Bass (man can that guy play)
Bill Bruford.............Drums (always liked a guy who could weave a jazz style behind the kit)
Rick Wakeman.......Keyboards (He makes a mean curry)
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I know I'm gonna get pummeled for this one, but it has to be said, because it is SOOO TRUE: Jon Anderson's lyrics give me the sh*ts! They distract me from the music, and annoy me with their nonsensicality! There! I said it! And I'll probably regret it! But at least I was honest!
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Sacred 22
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 04:03 |
xtopher wrote:
Sacred 22 wrote:
Ok, here goes. Don't laugh OK. Alright.........let me think..........hmmmmmm.
I really do get a kick out of your Avatar. Ok, where was I??? Oh ya.
OK.
Steve Howe..........guitars (I love his multi-facited style)
Jon Anderson.........lead vocals (He has really cool lyrics and his voise is kinda unique)
Chris Squire............Bass (man can that guy play)
Bill Bruford.............Drums (always liked a guy who could weave a jazz style behind the kit)
Rick Wakeman.......Keyboards (He makes a mean curry)
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I know I'm gonna get pummeled for this one, but it has to be said, because it is SOOO TRUE:
Jon Anderson's lyrics give me the sh*ts! They distract me from the music, and annoy me with their nonsensicality!
There! I said it! And I'll probably regret it! But at least I was honest!
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Well, all I can say is when you are 49 you might have a different opinion.
Good night!!!! Mr. Pink
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M. B. Zapelini
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 06:19 |
Peter Hammill: vocals
Steve Howe, Steve Hillage: guitars
Kerry Minnear: keyboards
Didier Malherbe, David Jackson, Elton Dean: saxes
Richard Sinclair: bass & vocals
B. J. Wilson: drums
Bill Bruford: drums & all kind of percussives, electric & acoustic
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"He's a man of the past and one of the present"
PETER HAMMILL
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Harry Hood
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 07:31 |
Jon Fishman - Drums, Vacuum
Robert Fripp - Guitar/Soundscapes
Tony Levin - Bass/Chapman Stick
Brian Eno - Keyboards, Effects
John Cale - Viola, Piano
Omar A. Rodriguez Lopez - Guitar
I guess they'd be sort of an atmospheric jammy instrumental group, with Fishman's vacuum and Cale's viola to keep things weird and interesting.
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pero
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 07:41 |
Keyboards and piano - Keith Emerson for me probably one of the most skiled performer composer and entertainer
Drums - Bill Bruford
Percussions - Pierre Morlein and Jamie Muir (no explanation needed)
Guitar - Robert Fripp
Violin - David Cross (exellent performer and inovative composer)
Bass - Chris Squire
Vocals - Peter Hammill (IMO the best vocal in prog)
Saxes - Didier Malherbe and David Jackson
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Lex C
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 09:42 |
Daniel Gidenlow(sp)-Pain of Salvation, Multiple singing styles and voices and a very wide range (Vocals)
Arjen Lucassen- Ayreon Multiple guitar playing styles including metal folk blues and straight rock (Lead Guitar)
Thomas Hakke- Meshuggah The only original active drummer right now as far is I am concerned he can lay down polyrhythms and Funk/Jazz grooves like no other (Drumset)
Mike Patton-Fantomas Mike would use his vocals as an extra instrument adding a very unique sound to the band. (Back up Instrumental Vocals)
Greg Lake- King Crimson 21st Century Schizoid man, listen to the bass part and enough will have been said. (Bass) Fredrik Thordenal- Meshuggah He would play rhythm guitar and melt faces with odd time signatures and very middle eastern guitar solos. (Rhythm Guitar)
Saxaphone-Jon Coltrane- Best Saxaphone player of all time and also a major influence of the Guitar Solo (Jon Coltrane)
Trumpet- Miles Davis- One of the fathers of Prog and inventor of Fusion not to mention pretensious as well as an amazing musician and composer, can hit high notes low notes and hold notes for a very long time.
That would be my supergroup personally maybe throw in a percussionist but this group seems pretty solid, musical and rhythmically complex
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sm sm
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 12:19 |
How many supergroups have failed because of egos, one person trying to dominate all others, or everyone not trying to outdo one another?
That said, If Guitarists/Vocalist/Composer Ronnie Stolt is in one, then I want Sax palyer, David Jackson, for his time in Tangent resulted in Stolt not trying to dominate the band.
To compliment it, give me bassist Les Claypool, who still plays heavy and in Primus always let his guitarist and drummer be part of the action, and it seems Chris Squire is just content to be part of the rhythm section now.
Likewise, I want gutarist, Buckethead, who has worked with Claypool, a good team player, whose avante guard style would complement Stolt.
For keyboards, give me the underrated Richard Wright of Pink Floyd, or if still alive, Peter Bardens of Camel, or Clive Nolan of Pendragon/Arena, all would be content to be in the background, but still be respected for any input they gave. Their etheral sound would also compliment because the composers would be sensible enough to highlight in many spots.
Drummer, John Weathers of Gentle Giant, a good team player and and excelllent percusionist as well as a drummer.
Vocalist, multi-instrumentalist, composter, Derik Shulman of Gentle Giant (providing he want to play music, more than making money - remember he signed Bon Jovi) would also be a great addition, especially since he has worked in the bean counter part of music business, thus would help the band enormously with such politics.
Edited by sm sm - August 10 2006 at 12:19
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 12:25 |
Gosh almighty, this has been done at least ten times before... With people suggesting such unlikely combinations as Emerson and Blackmore (a nuclear explosion would do less damage) and countless others that now I can't possibly remember.
In my very humble opinion, supergroups are never a very good idea, precisely because of the egos involved. Most human beings have much bigger egos than they believe, and artists of any kind develop even bigger ones because of the attention and flattery to which they are subjected.
BTW, if I were to choose one, I'd choose a supergroup that actually existed and lasted the space of a single album - that is, UK's first lineup, with John Wetton (bass/vocals), Eddie Jobson (keyboards/violin), Allan Holdsworth (guitar) and Bill Bruford (drums). How much better can you get?
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 12:33 |
Zappa - guitar, grandstanding
Belew - guitar, talk talk talk......it's only talk
Bruford - drums
Geddy Lee - bass
Levin - stick, moustache aura
Rudess - keyboard wizardry
Schulze - layers of swirly sound
Orchestra of Eternity - yep
Eno - production
Blackmore, Petrucci - roadies
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 12:36 |
stonebeard wrote:
Zappa - guitar, grandstanding
Belew - guitar, talk talk talk......it's only talk
Bruford - drums
Geddy Lee - bass
Levin - stick, moustache aura
Rudess - keyboard wizardry
Schulze - layers of swirly sound
Orchestra of Eternity - yep
Eno - production
Blackmore, Petrucci - roadies |
What kind of sound will this band have? Me? Steve Hackett- Guitar Terry Bozzio- Drums/Vocals Tony Levin- Bass/Stick Mark Kelly- Keyboards Fish- Lead Vocals
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 12:39 |
Drums - Danny Carey
Bass - Tony Levin
Main Vox - Russell Allen (Symphony X)
Main Vox - Amy Lee (Evanesence)
Keys - Kevin Moore
Guitar - Alex Lifeson
Guitar - Steve Hackett
Supplemental Vox - Ian Gillian, Peter Gabriel, Brent Smith (Shinedown), Harriet Wheeler (The Sundays), and Les Claypool (would provide the comic relief).
Overall sound would waver between dark and aggressive to moody and ambient. NO POP BALLADS! This band would produce a rock opera that would consist mostly of a Romeo and Juliet type tragedy.
I see the key musical elements coming from Carey and Moore.
Band Name: Allegro's Patience
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 12:40 |
Greg Lake on vocals
Robert Fripp, David Gilmour, and Frank Zappa resurrected from the Land of the Dead on Guitars
Jordan Rudess on keyboards
Mike Portnoy on Drums
Chris Squire on Bass Guitar
Alan Parson as Producer
This Supergroup would rock all the world
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 12:41 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
What kind of sound will this band have? |
I have no idea, but with Levin's Magical Moustache Aura, anything can happen!
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 12:42 |
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
What kind of sound will this band have? |
I have no idea, but with Levin's Magical Moustache Aura, anything can happen! |
That's what I was thinking, but you know there was a time when Levin didn't have the 'stache.
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