Åkerfeldt vs. Wilson

It wasn't you bashing Rush, Cyggie, it was Flossy... And I agree with you on all counts!

Cygnus X-2 wrote: King of Loss wrote: New Rush is just not good, they should think about trying to write more 10 minute songs than boring 5 minute pop songs. IQ, on the other hand, is growing. One of my favorite Neo-Prog bands. New Rush isn't the best out there, but they're trying and that's really all that counts. And they are comfortable where they are at musically and I don't think they plan on returning to the 10 minute Sci-Fi vibe they went for in the late 70s ever again, but it would be nice.

As if Micky was not enough, there's more people dissing Rush around here... Anyway, who says that 10-minute songs are better than 5-minute ones? DT are proof enough of the untruth of this statement...

*rushes for flame shield*

Then, I don't really think that the songs on "Vapor Trails" have much to do with pop. Perhaps Rush did some poppier tracks in the past, but their new direction seems rather different to me. Then again, perhaps it's just the fangirl in me speaking...

King of Loss wrote: New Rush is just not good, they should think about trying to write more 10 minute songs than boring 5 minute pop songs. IQ, on the other hand, is growing. One of my favorite Neo-Prog bands.

New Rush isn't the best out there, but they're trying and that's really all that counts. And they are comfortable where they are at musically and I don't think they plan on returning to the 10 minute Sci-Fi vibe they went for in the late 70s ever again, but it would be nice.

New Rush is just not good, they should think about trying to write more 10 minute songs than boring 5 minute pop songs.

IQ, on the other hand, is growing. One of my favorite Neo-Prog bands.

King of Loss wrote: Cygnus X-2 wrote: FishyMonkey wrote: Cygnus X-2 wrote: Tony R wrote: swilson wrote: SPS - PAIN OF SALVATION??????  Shhhhhhhiiiiiiiite!  No actually I never heard them, just kidding...      So are Porcupine Tree going to continue more and more towards Prog-Metal territory? As long as PT doesn't make an album that has a contrived concept like BE I think we'll be ok. Oh god, I second that with all my heart. Here's to hoping Scarsick won't be too concept heavy. I doubt it, judging form what I've heard, but still.      It should be a good album, but I think that if it has another concept in the vein of BE (I mean, Gildenlow has come up with much better)... Yet the concept is so deep that it makes all those other more "realistic" concepts look very narrow and just plain weak. The concept that would please Cyggie would be a plain and emotional one (ala Remedy Lane). One of the weakest PoS concepts and the content is all too one-sided       Hopefully Scarsick isn't like that.

Hey, that's not true, I love a lot of concept albums, in fact my favorite album is a concept album.

Some concept albums I really enjoyed:

The Who- Quadrophenia
The Who- Tommy
Frank Zappa- Joe's Garage
Ayreon- The Human Equation
Dream Theater- Scenes from a Memory
Marilllion- Misplaced Childhood
Marillion- Brave

I just don't want some obtuse concept about how God is unsure of itself (not going to get in a religious discussion about if God is a he or a she) and made humans to be in that image, it's all a little too cryptic for me. I think the album is good, but the concept is what killed it for me.

stonebeard wrote: ^ I'm still thinking of how to....tactfully describe that concept.   Which reminds me:   New PoS, Marillion, and possibly Porcupine Tree albums in 2007!  If IQ manage to release a new album before the year is over I'll be in heaven.   Edit: Can't forget Rush!!!

I'm excited about the new PoS and PT albums (I love In Absentia and Deadwing).  IQ and Rush, well lets just say I can forget about them.

Cygnus X-2 wrote: FishyMonkey wrote: Cygnus X-2 wrote: Tony R wrote: swilson wrote: SPS - PAIN OF SALVATION??????  Shhhhhhhiiiiiiiite!  No actually I never heard them, just kidding...      So are Porcupine Tree going to continue more and more towards Prog-Metal territory? As long as PT doesn't make an album that has a contrived concept like BE I think we'll be ok. Oh god, I second that with all my heart. Here's to hoping Scarsick won't be too concept heavy. I doubt it, judging form what I've heard, but still.      It should be a good album, but I think that if it has another concept in the vein of BE (I mean, Gildenlow has come up with much better)...

Yet the concept is so deep that it makes all those other more "realistic" concepts look very narrow and just plain weak.

The concept that would please Cyggie would be a plain and emotional one (ala Remedy Lane). One of the weakest PoS concepts and the content is all too one-sided
     

Hopefully Scarsick isn't like that.

^ I'm still thinking of how to....tactfully describe that concept.

Edited by stonebeard - August 09 2006 at 14:12

FishyMonkey wrote: Cygnus X-2 wrote: Tony R wrote: swilson wrote: SPS - PAIN OF SALVATION??????  Shhhhhhhiiiiiiiite!  No actually I never heard them, just kidding...      So are Porcupine Tree going to continue more and more towards Prog-Metal territory? As long as PT doesn't make an album that has a contrived concept like BE I think we'll be ok. Oh god, I second that with all my heart. Here's to hoping Scarsick won't be too concept heavy. I doubt it, judging form what I've heard, but still.

Have they finally released details on it?  PoS are really sparse on detail it seems (they never update their website).

Cygnus X-2 wrote: Tony R wrote: swilson wrote: SPS - PAIN OF SALVATION??????  Shhhhhhhiiiiiiiite!  No actually I never heard them, just kidding...      So are Porcupine Tree going to continue more and more towards Prog-Metal territory? As long as PT doesn't make an album that has a contrived concept like BE I think we'll be ok.

Maybe your puny Neo-Prog specialist mind simply cannot digest the concept?