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Points: 6336 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 21:32
Just one person said something about ther ebeing more light epics than dark...Cry


Hey, so much talk about Godspeed!...now I definitly will check them out!
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Originally posted by Harold Demure Harold Demure wrote:

. And have you heard the album "Unfolded Like Staircase" by Discipline? Virtually all of the tracks there can be cold epics because of their length and it's the best "dark" prog I've ever hard (except for VDGG of course )You must listen to it if you haven't yet.    
 
"Unfolded"is a Great CD!Thumbs Up
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Points: 9008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 23:07
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Just one person said something about ther ebeing more light epics than dark...Cry


Hey, so much talk about Godspeed!...now I definitly will check them out!


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Points: 1655 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 23:16
Tool's Aenima, if it can be considered as such


it is also considerably better than Lateralus, although lateralus is good.
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Points: 16310 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 23:22
Tool- wings for Marie
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Points: 10094 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 00:32
Originally posted by king of Siam king of Siam wrote:

Tool- wings for Marie


Yes!!

And could A Change of Seasons be considered dark? I think it is

hmm....The Drapery Falls- Opeth.....
I'll try to think of some others....


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Green Carnation - Light Of Day ,Day Of Darkness
Tako - Druga Strana Mene(which means other side of myself...the best song in prog rock history from Yugoslavia)
Riverside - Second life syndrome
Opeth - Dirge for November(not really an epic,or maybe..)
Pulsar - Strands Of the Future
Klaus Schulze(the second song on Timewind,i dont remember the name)
Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene 2
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
Tangerine Dream - Force Majeure
Sigur ros - Danarfregnir og jardafrarir
Ange - Capitaine coeur de miel
 
 
I think thats it...
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Points: 249 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 01:59

Tuzvihar,

I really like that painting you have on your message screen.  That's good. What is that? It looks like pentamethylcyclopentane or something.

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Points: 13536 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 04:14
Originally posted by ldlanberg ldlanberg wrote:

Tuzvihar, I really like that painting you have on your message screen.  That's good. What is that? It looks like pentamethylcyclopentane or something.


It's a fractal:

A fractal is an object or quantity that displays self-similarity, in a somewhat technical sense, on all scales. The object need not exhibit exactly the same structure at all scales, but the same "type" of structures must appear on all scales. A plot of the quantity on a log-log graph versus scale then gives a straight line, whose slope is said to be the fractal dimension. The prototypical example for a fractal is the length of a coastline measured with different length rulers. The shorter the ruler, the longer the length measured, a paradox known as the coastline paradox. (quoted from MathWorld: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/).

I just found the image on the net by googling the word.
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Points: 934 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 05:18
How about Metamorfosi's album Inferno.  Thumbs Up
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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 07:53
Originally posted by Paulieg Paulieg wrote:

How about Metamorfosi's album Inferno.  Thumbs Up


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wouild toss Biglietto Per L'Inferno's debut album in there as well.... a real laugh riot that was LOL 
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 08:06
Not musically dark,but thematically bitter and twisted,I recommend "The Shaming Of The True" by Kevin Gilbert. Similar in some ways to "The Wall" or "Wish You Were Here" when they touch on the Music Business,its a savage indictment of the whole industry circus and a must for the cynics amongst us.
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Points: 7003 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 09:42
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

I think one of the dead give aways would have to be pretty much anything Devils Doll has release.

Univers Zero - La Faulx
Present - Souls for Sale
Guapo - Five suns part 1 - 5

Along with most of Art Zoyd's later material

The are many more but that is what I can think of for the moment.

Also Ivan good to see Esoteric getting represented here



 
Beat me to it. Shub Niggurath are about as dark as Zeuhl gets - Incipit Tragadaeia form Les Morts Vont Vite is an extremely disturbing 15 minutes of music.
 
Art Zoyd's Etat D'Urgence (Phase IV) is my favourite of their extended pieces.
 
And from the Krautrock scene Can - Augmn and Halleluwah and Faust - Miss Fortune and Listen to the Fish.
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Points: 720 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 10:36
Pink Floyd - Echoes is pretty dark in my opinion. Feel free to correct me again... lol.


You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks.
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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 11:03
Originally posted by Kleynan Kleynan wrote:

Pink Floyd - Echoes is pretty dark in my opinion. Feel free to correct me again... lol.



with pleasure hahahhah Wink

seriously though... you must the type us  normal mortal men must hate....  trophy wife,  a Ferrari in the drive way,  3 story beach house, more money than you can count... dude you need to listen to some DARK prog hhahahah Wink


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Anything by Lacrimosa.
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Points: 13536 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 11:15
Originally posted by Forgotten Son Forgotten Son wrote:

Anything by Lacrimosa.


True!
"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."

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Points: 184 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 12:17
While not an epic compared to the length of some bands songs, such as Opeth's Black Rose Immortal or whatever, I feel that there is a very dark and dreary feel to the two big Pain of Salvation album closers from The Perfect Element and Remedy Lane.

The Perfect Element closes with a title track that closes a tragic concept album is total tragedy, and Remedy Lane closes with Beyond The Pale, which is actually somewhere near the middle of the concept chronologically, has such a feeling of deep emotional scarring and pain.

They are not very long, but both have a very epic feel to them for sure.
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Points: 881 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 12:42
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Yeah. Sure.There's this band that I've been talking since I joined her called Godspeed you! black emperor I don't believe you noticed yet, but they have 2 really really dark albums called F#A#oo and Yanqui U.x.o.

Check them out.

Yanqui U.X.O is amazing... I think it's underrated by the fans! My fave from them.

So, yes, check this out, people. Big smile
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Points: 720 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 13:15
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

dude you need to listen to some DARK prog hhahahah Wink
 
Getting there. Been listening to alot of Godspeed and Opeth. Besides that, I need to study my dark side some more. LOL
 


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