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Poll Question: Which Band Should Not Be on Progarchives?
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34 [38.64%]
6 [6.82%]
22 [25.00%]
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Most of the bands on this site are rightfully there, but one that I have a big problem with is Death. I'm a metalhead at heart and absolutely love Schuldiner's work, but I can not see why people think they are progressive!

I got back into Death a long time ago, and I would have been laughing my ass off if someone suggested that Scream Bloody Gore was progressive.
 
I know the argument has been made that their later albums are progressive, but I just cannot see classifying them as "Progressive Metal".
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WO!!!
 
I just found out that the Japanese band, Dir En Grey are on this site. ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS?!?
 
Terrible, Mindless, Un-talented, Nu-Metal would fit much better, and that is just me being nice. How did they get on here?
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Originally posted by OpethGuitarist OpethGuitarist wrote:

why all the votes for Radiohead? They are actually among the most prog of the group

quoted because this man knows what he's talking about

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If you think Mogwai aren't prog wait 'till you hear Sigur Ros - Agaetis byrjun...

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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2006 at 19:03
Originally posted by OpethGuitarist OpethGuitarist wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hahha...


Radiohead - only if 95% of the crap that people are calling prog is eliminated as well...

 
Queen - a vote for yes.. shows that you haven't listened to their early albums
Deep Purple - same damn thing...  ^


quoted because this man knows what he's talking about


quoted because of guilt trip for trashing your reviewing skills ahahhaha Wink
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Not sure about who is and who isnt prog, but it is scary how similar the Japanese bands look alike considering its two different sexes..
 

Oh, yeah...err, Radiohead. They are good, but prog? I dont think so, if they are prog so are Coldplay.
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Originally posted by transend transend wrote:


Oh, yeah...err, Radiohead. They are good, but prog? I dont think so, if they are prog so are Coldplay.
 
Coldplay never did anything like Kid A. And they never will.
 
Radiohead have reinvented themselves with almost every album, and every different direction offers something new and challenging.
 


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The Beatles -not prog as far as I'm concerned. Dead
 
I am sure a lot of people disagree - it's just that if Abba came up with a few experimental albums at the end, they would not classify as prog either.
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Originally posted by mukster mukster wrote:

The Beatles -not prog as far as I'm concerned. Dead
 
I am sure a lot of people disagree - it's just that if Abba came up with a few experimental albums at the end, they would not classify as prog either.


I suggest you read before posting. Here's something you should've read before posting.

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I dont think there is any merit in discussing Prog-Related or Proto-Prog as if they are accepted here as prog Rock bands.

The Prog Archives merry-go-round:

Proto-Prog and Prog-related bands are NOT considered to be Prog Rock bands by Prog Archives.
Check out the descriptions for each:

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#38
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#37

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A good 35 - 40% of bands on this site have very little to do with prog if anything at all. Prog metal is now including anybody that may have a technical edge (ask a Meshugga fan what prog metal is and you will probobly get a blank stare).Most Post rock artists do not consider themselfs prog or claim any influnce (More than one major critic praises Sigur Ros "thank god they are not prog rock", it is on thier site). This site should have some integrety and only include "true Prog" bands who play or are directly influnced from the movement.
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Where is the option for all of them?  I can't say I care much that they are here, but if I was King, these bands would not be featured on prog archives.
 
 
Originally posted by reality reality wrote:

This site should have some integrety and only include "true Prog" bands who play or are directly influnced from the movement.
 
Too bad the site's policy has always been to be inclusive and complete.

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Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Where is the option for all of them?  I can't say I care much that they are here, but if I was King, these bands would not be featured on prog archives.
 
 
Originally posted by reality reality wrote:

This site should have some integrety and only include "true Prog" bands who play or are directly influnced from the movement.
 
Too bad the site's policy has always been to be inclusive and complete.
 
What percentage of relation or influnce does a band need to be included in the all inclusive and complete website of progarchives? Is a band who is 1% influnced by prog and 99% by something else still under the inclusive and complete banner? Is a band who does not identify with prog but is techncal or different (but does not sound like anything that comes from the 70's prog movement) still prog or should be under the inclusive banner on this site? Is a band who takes from some of the same influnces that prog originaly did but in a totaly different way that bypasses prog all together still resigned to the prog label. Is a band that is creative and non mainstream and may have listened to a Yes album in the past considered prog? If I was new to Progressive rock I would learn very little of what "prog" realy is from this site. How many times do I have to explain that Sigur Ros is not a prog rock band and thier sound comes more from dream pop and the unrelated (to prog) experiaments of the ninteys than anything that came out of the prog movement. Is techno prog because they used electronics in the 70's? If this site is going to keep all these bands and claim everything under the sun with the banner of prog it should strongly define its labels about what "true\actual prog" realy is and what is on the site for completists purpuses. There is a definte "prog" sound and formula that this site should focus on and not be so cluttered with non prog(as good as it may be).
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Points: 1800 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 02:46
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Points: 4202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 05:46
Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

Originally posted by transend transend wrote:


Oh, yeah...err, Radiohead. They are good, but prog? I dont think so, if they are prog so are Coldplay.
 
Coldplay never did anything like Kid A. And they never will.
 
Radiohead have reinvented themselves with almost every album, and every different direction offers something new and challenging.
 


Transend. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. And Nightwish should be in the poll, not Radiohead. Voted for Lacrimosa.
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This poll would have been more constructive and balanced had there been an option to say all those bands have a place here.
 
As it stands, the question is similar to "Have you stopped kicking your dog?".
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Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:


As it stands, the question is similar to "Have you stopped kicking your dog?".




Is that some obscure Scottish slang for onanism,Bob?

Or is that walking the dog....?

Ok,I'll go away and find something constructive to do like close down a few Rush polls....
      
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Points: 5908 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2006 at 10:23
Radiohead and Rhapsody.But personally I voted for LACRIMOSA - I love them,I have all of their albums,but prog?..NO WAY!!!
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