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el böthy 
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 16:42 |
It has come to my atention that most epics, or at least the mayority of epics I am familiar with, come from light prog bands (Yes, The Flower Kings, The Tangent, ELP...) and only a few are from the dark side of the prog...from thouse, my favorite is "A plague of lighthouse keeper" from VDGG and "Lizard" from KC as second best and favorite...
So, which are your favorite dark prog epics? Do you agree with me that the mayority of epics are from the lighter bands? If so, good, and if not well...see you in hell you  !!!
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:08 |
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the first two 'dark epics' to jump out are no brainers..
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
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Il Ballleto di Bronzo's - Ys (would consider the album as a whole)
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:11 |
My favourite "dark" epic is Plague Of Lighthouse Keepres, too. And have you heard the album "Unfolded Like Staircase" by Discipline? Virtually all of the tracks there can be cold epics because of their length and it's the best "dark" prog I've ever hard (except for VDGG of course  )You must listen to it if you haven't yet. And we can't forget about Floyd's Echoes and Atom Heart Mother. And Flyin' High by UFO.
Edited by Harold Demure - August 05 2006 at 17:14
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:11 |
 micky wrote:
the first two 'dark epics' to jump out are no brainers..
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
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Il Ballleto di Bronzo's - Ys (would consider the album as a whole)
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Damn!  You've beaten me to it.
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:12 |
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some others that jump right to mind...
Magma - Kohntarkosz
VdGG - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers (quality concerns aside... an essential dark prog epic)
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:14 |
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:17 |
Also: 'Relayer' is a rather dark epic although from a light band. And one more has just come to my mind - 'The Fall of the House of Usher' by The Alan Parsons Project (well, you can consider it as an epic although it consists of five songs).
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:17 |
Green Carnation - Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness
Edge of Sanity - Crimson I & II
In The Woods.. - Omnio
Agalloch - She Painted Fire Across The Skyline, Our Fortress Is Burning
Ulver - Silence Teaches You How To Sing
Opeth - Black Rose Immortal, In Mist She Was Standing, Blackwater Park
Disillusion - Back To Times Of Splendor, The Sleep Of Restless Hours
Anything by Esoteric
My Dying Bride - The Crown Of Sympathy
Katatonia - Scarlet Heavens
Most things GY!BE
...and most Post-Rock is not light stuff either.
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:21 |
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:23 |
Actually, you can count each epic from King Crimson, Van der Graaf Generator and Peter Hammill (solo).
I would say Meurglys III (VdGG, World Record) is my favourite...
As for the question of majority -- which bands are in majority -- light or dark? Right. Therefore there are more epics from the lighter side of Prog. Just my opinion...
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:23 |
Opeth - Reverie/Harlequin Forest, Bleak
Genesis - Supper's Ready (Don't know if its so dark. It has its dark and light moments.)
Godspeed You Black Emperor - Sleep
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:28 |
Kleynan wrote:
Genesis - Supper's Ready (Don't know if its so dark. It has its dark and light moments.)
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no no no no... 
hahah. Compare that to ones listed already man... it's a damn
peaceful walk through the English countryside on a sunny day by
comparison. 
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:30 |
And something from my country: 'Bema Pamieci Zalobny - Rapsod' - Czeslaw Niemen.
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:39 |
I think one of the dead give aways would have to be pretty much anything Devils Doll has release.
Univers Zero - La Faulx
Present - Souls for Sale
Guapo - Five suns part 1 - 5
Along with most of Art Zoyd's later material
The are many more but that is what I can think of for the moment.
Also Ivan good to see Esoteric getting represented here
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 18:10 |
I'm just gonna go ahead and add everything that Godspeed has ever done, especially the masterpieces off of Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven. (Especially Storm)
Two of my favorite prog metal epics are
Opeth - Black Rose Immortal
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Meshuggah - I (Not for the faint of heart. The first time I heard this it blew me off my chair  )
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 18:31 |
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Yeah. Sure.There's this band that I've been talking since I joined her called Godspeed you! black emperor I don't believe you noticed yet, but they have 2 really really dark albums called F#A#oo and Yanqui U.x.o.
Check them out.
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 18:39 |
Tuzvihar wrote:
And something from my country: 'Bema Pamieci Zalobny - Rapsod' - Czeslaw Niemen. |
Yes, absolutely! This is very dark song.
But is Niemen himself considered dark artist?
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 18:56 |
Black Velvet wrote:
I think one of the dead give aways would have to be pretty much anything Devils Doll has release.
Univers Zero - La Faulx
Present - Souls for Sale
Guapo - Five suns part 1 - 5
Along with most of Art Zoyd's later material
The are many more but that is what I can think of for the moment.
Also Ivan good to see Esoteric getting represented here
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I agree completly with what you said about UZ and Guapo (I don't know the other song by Present and I don't have an Art Zoyd album yet)
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 19:12 |
Jethro Tull's Passion Play hasn't been named, surprisingly.
And if you count Gog/Magog by Peter Hammill; that might be the darkest song ever.
Edited by MustShaveBeard - August 05 2006 at 19:13
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The Miracle
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 19:35 |
All I can think of now is the forst song on Univers Zero's Heresie and Kontarkosz... Indeed, all Godspeed songs are epics, and all Godspeed epics are dark(or more like just melancholic, deep depression, especially on the debut)
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Dark prog epics
As much as I flap my yapper about those albums 