Which Band Should Not Be on Progarchives? |
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MadcapLaughs84
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 21 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 658 |
Topic: Which Band Should Not Be on Progarchives? Posted: August 05 2006 at 13:08 |
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I know here are bands that can be considered with some prog influences, but does everyone is absolutely prog???
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Angeldust
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 18 2005 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 336 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 13:10 | |
Well i think that it's fair that these bands are here..No offense mate
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ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 13:11 | |
Triumph!
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Hatters
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 06 2006 Status: Offline Points: 466 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 13:39 | |
They should all be on. Especially Mogwai because they are an amazing post-rock band.
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dagrush
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 537 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 13:41 | |
Haven't heard any Mogwai or Lacrimosa yet, but I don't think any of the other four should be here. I guess Radiohead would be the biggest offender.
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E-Dub
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 24 2006 Location: Elkhorn, WI Status: Offline Points: 7910 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 13:55 | |
I went with Radiohead; however, I still don't see where 10cc and Death belong.
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 13:58 | |
Deep Purple: Proto-Prog Queen: Prog-Related
No objection about that.
I'd rather see Radiohead in Prog-Related.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:04 | |
I would, too, better not let The Wizard see this, though, as he thinks Radiohead are one of the most progressive groups ever. |
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mystic fred
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 13 2006 Location: Londinium Status: Offline Points: 4252 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:06 | |
Every band/artist inclusion on PA is the result of long and careful consideration among the Collaborators based upon their knowledge and judgement, so nothing has been put in by mistake. Nobody agrees with absolutely all the inclusions so therefore we have plenty to discuss, if anyone disagrees with an inclusion give your reasons - let's hear them!
Edited by mystic fred - August 05 2006 at 14:07 |
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:09 | |
Maybe if you discount Pablo Honey, The Bends, OK Computer, Half of Kid A, Amnesiac, and Hail to the Theif and decided that Yorke's lyrics don't matter since you can't hear them, then I guess that's sort of not crazy.
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Logan
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:11 | |
Absolutely prog, no, but then Deep Purple is categorised as proto-prog and Queen is categorized as prog-related. I have no problem with that. A band like Radiohead is better categorised over-all as alt. rock, but that's a fairly nebulous classification I've always felt. They did become more experimental art rockish with their later albums, I suppose. I guess I'd classify them as pop rock. I'd rather see them in prog-related. But heck, if I ran prog-related I'd open the floodgates to a ton of stuff (Santana, the Doors... but I'd put my foot down with Menudo). Since post-rock is an integrated subgenre at this site, Mogwai should be here. Laccrimosa... I haven't heard enough of them to have a strong opinion. I know many don't consider them to be worthy of inclusion. I must say I really like their song listed at this site HERE. Can't judge by one song (they'd need at least one album that is prog), but "Warum so Tief" sounds like a delightfully (seriously) proggy song to me. So I think they all have a place here - at least under prog-related. Some reclassification might be warranted, in my opinion. My problem is that once you open the doors to prog-related, too much stuff that is not readily identified with the "prog movement" becomes acceptable, but it is a necessary category. I do get the impression that this site is stricter with classic bands than newer ones on the whole. Oh, as for Triumph, I hadn't realised they were included at this site. That was a surprise -- even if it's just under prog-related. |
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Phil
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 17 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1881 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:18 | |
Deep Purple. "Proto prog"??!! They're are great rock band, blues influenced, but I don't think they're anything prog.
Radiohead, on the other hand, are prog. I liked Rick Wakeman's comment about them; "sorry guys, you're as prog as they come"!!
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:20 | |
Nightwish
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The Ryan
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 16 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 559 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:46 | |
The majority of those bands shouldn't be on progarchives, as they are not progressive rock.
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Tony R
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 14:56 | |
I dont think there is any merit in discussing Prog-Related or Proto-Prog as if they are accepted here as prog Rock bands.
The Prog Archives merry-go-round: Proto-Prog and Prog-related bands are NOT considered to be Prog Rock bands by Prog Archives. Check out the descriptions for each: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#38 http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#37 Thanks folks! |
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The Green Tank
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 06 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 244 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:20 | |
Radiohead.
People just WANT them to be prog so they can say that a prog band is popular.
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micky
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:25 | |
hahha...
Radiohead - only if 95% of the crap that people are calling prog is eliminated as well... Queen - a vote for yes.. shows that you haven't listened to their early albums Deep Purple - same damn thing... ^ |
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lightbulb_son
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:49 | |
Same Here, and by the way, I'm loving your avatar.
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OpethGuitarist
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 25 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1655 |
Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:50 | |
Rhapsody
why all the votes for Radiohead? They are actually among the most prog of the group |
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OpethGuitarist
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Posted: August 05 2006 at 17:50 | |
quoted because this man knows what he's talking about |
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