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Sean Trane 
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 Posted: July 30 2006 at 06:03 |
Saw the movie around ten times when it came out in the early 80's >> it was playing for years in second run movies theatres along with Rocky horror the Zep movie and others.
Quite an excellent movie if you ask me. I bought the DVd two years ago and saw it twice since.
Waters went off the deep end (the story line I think is about Syd and his fears at the powers of rock stars).
He wrote this story after realizing the horror of him spitting at a fan in a Montreal concert as the fan was trying to climb on stage in adoration. He was so sick of his own attitude that he wrote the story about how rock stars could actually become political dangers. I think that spitting incidents actually sparked his paranoia and the few years to come
Although I agree that Geldoff was a dubious choice and the movie has him singing the Pink vocals.
Not the best Floyd album but still an incredible moment.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 09:56 |
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I like the movie, but then again I like wierd psychedelic movies. The goal was clearly to be as weird as possible and not really focus on the story as much as all the weirdo meanings behind everything. I don't watch it regularly, but if im in the mood for something outlandishly strange I don't mind it.
I kinda feel this same way about the movie version of the Who's Tommy.
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 11:56 |
I don't know about you, but I was laughing my ass off the whole time, but then again, maybe I'm just sick  I found it had its dull moments and its good moments; the end was insane (Comfortably Numb on out) but I didn't understand why they left out "Hey You". Or maybe I just missed it.
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The Lost Chord
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 12:34 |
The ending almost ruined comfortably numb for me...I had to watch live at pompeii to see how awesome gilmour was after that.
I dont think gilmour was behind this album, nor film.
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 12:44 |
 heyitsthatguy wrote:
I didn't understand why they left out "Hey You". Or maybe I just missed it.
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I think you missed it.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 12:58 |
The Lost Chord wrote:
The ending almost ruined comfortably numb for me...I had to watch live at pompeii to see how awesome gilmour was after that.
I dont think gilmour was behind this album, nor film. |
Most people know that The Wall was a Roger Waters thing ... that's very old news.
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 13:07 |
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WaywardSon
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 13:10 |
I think itīs an incredible film, Alan Parker did a brilliant job. Itīs also my favourite Floyd album.(although it is very depressing)
Slightly off topic, there is another great film called "Jacobīs Ladder" which reminds me a lot of The Wall.
Edited by WaywardSon - July 30 2006 at 13:13
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 13:12 |
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 13:24 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
richardh wrote:
The music is very dark and offers no hope.The film just picked up on that although giving the lead role to Geldof was always a very dubious thing to do IMO.Should have picked an actor.I havn't seen the film for a long time though.Might be interesting to see it again.I'd suspect the film was meant to be like Clockwork Orange but failed...mainly becaue Malcom McDowell v Bob Geldof is no 'contest' |
I endorse your opinion completely (though you never realised I was a woman before a few days ago... ). I saw the film when it was first released, but I have never really wanted to watch it again, as some scenes were a bit too strong for my delicate sensibilities (you know, being a lady and all that... ). I also agree that Geldof was not the best choice as a protagonist, though at the time he was hot property because of the Live Aid thing.
That said, I love the album, especially as I was so lucky as to witness it performed by the band in 1980 at London's Earls Court. It may be uneven and all that, and it's undeniably dark and depressing - however, it contains some of the strongest ever PF songs, notably the perhaps overplayed but never overrated "Comfortably Numb".
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I very much appreciate the endorsement,especially coming as it does from the intelligent half of the human species.  btw I've always like The Wall and played it an awfull lot when I was 20ish.The lyrics made a lot of sense at the time to me..I could relate strongly.
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 13:27 |
Yay, somebody that agrees  Yeah, my worst purchase ever, an utterly dreadful movie and easily my least favorite PF album. No beauty left like in early albums some cheap commercial pop rock wit meaningless filler in between and only two good songs(Hey You and Comfortably Numb) Hey You not even being in the movie. Not that id'd be any better if it was there though. 20 bucks down the toilet, I sold it the next day. Uggh. I thought it was really really horrible. Live At Pompeii, on the other hand...  
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Vompatti
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 13:29 |
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Is it really true that Hey You wasn't in the movie?
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zappaholic
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 13:38 |
I like the album. I'm apathetic toward the movie.
This is kind of the same case as making a movie out of a novel: it never, never, never measures up to the source material.
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billbuckner
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 17:20 |
From Urick's excellent analysis
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now you're probably wondering about those aforementioned problems I have with
"Hey You." While I think the song is extraordinary and well crafted, I think it's
a bit misplaced in its positioning on the album. Waters once recounted how Bob
Ezrin called him, remarking how the third side of the album just wasn't right.
"I thought about it and in a couple of minutes I realized that 'Hey You' could
conceptually go anywhere, and it would make a much better side if we put it at
the front of the side, and sandwiched the middle theatrical scene, with the guy
in the hotel room, between an attempt to re-establish contact with the outside
world, which is what 'Hey You' is" (Waters, 1979 Interview). The idea of "sandwiching"
the theatrical scenes is certainly interesting and the music of "Hey You" flows
seamlessly with "Is There Anybody Out There?" and the rest of the album. However
I'm not convinced that it flows "conceptually," as Waters put it. Going from the
Pink in "Goodbye Cruel World" who is resolute in his need for isolation to the
Pink in "Hey You" who is suddenly filled with the realization
of his errors is a bit too much of a conceptual leap for me. There has been no
growth, no personal experience that would warrant such a sudden shift in his personality.
Yet the narrative dissonance is further complicated with the succeeding "Is There
Anybody Out There?" a tune which presents a Pink far more akin to the "I don't
need no arms around me" Pink from "Another Brick 3" and "Goodbye Cruel World."
Although he does ask if there's "anybody out there," his asking is very indifferent,
especially when compared to the manic need for help as seen in "Hey You." Simply
put, Pink goes from vehement indifference ("Another Brick 3" / "Goodbye Cruel
World") to unhindered concern ("Hey You") back to tepid indifference ("Is There
Anybody Out There" and to some extent, "Nobody Home). "Hey You " works well musically
in its current position yet, in my opinion, is too disjointed in terms of the
complete narrative. Hence I completely understand why the film sequences for the
song were left on the cutting room floor. Despite its absence from the film, though,
I am able to offer an analysis of the cinematic sequences thanks to the power
of the almighty DVD features! |
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 18:00 |
I think I've seen The Wall three times and I've never noticed that Hey You isn't there.  However, that doesn't make the movie any less a masterpiece.
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 20:02 |
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If the whole thing was animation/cartoon, it would be awesome. Definitely not the best Pink Floyd album, but I absolutely loved the cartoon parts...
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video vertigo
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Posted: July 31 2006 at 02:39 |
Track listing
1. In the Flesh?
2. The Thin Ice
3. Another Brick in the Wall (Part One)
4. The Happiest Days of Our Lives
5. Another Brick in the Wall (Part Two)
6. Mother
7. Goodbye Blue Sky
8. Empty Spaces
9. What Shall We Do Now?
10. Young Lust
11. One of My Turns
12. Don't Leave Me Now
13. Another Brick in the Wall (Part Three)
14. Goodbye Cruel World
15. Is There Anybody Out There?
16. Nobody Home
17. Vera
18. Bring the Boys Back Home
19. Comfortably Numb
20. The Show Must Go On
21. In the Flesh
22. Run Like Hell
23. Waiting for the Worms
24. Stop
25. The Trial
26. Outside the Wall
does that answer the hey you question?
Edited by video vertigo - July 31 2006 at 02:40
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 31 2006 at 04:55 |
Vompatti wrote:
heyitsthatguy wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
heyitsthatguy wrote:
I didn't understand why they left out "Hey You". Or maybe I just missed it. |
I think you missed it.
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Goddamn DVD version....
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It's not on the DVD version? 
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Had you read my post both of you would have the answer:
Hey you was recorded , put to images , but never shown with the movie.
Either in the 80's (I'm certain of this since Hey You is my fave track and I noticed it right away), nor in the DVD movie
However it was included in the bonus and they discuss it in the interviews.
A bunch of excellent interviews too and very worthy other bonus tracks. Read my review on it.
Edited by Sean Trane - July 31 2006 at 04:56
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: July 31 2006 at 05:53 |
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I don't like the album, but the movie is top notch in my opinion. Maybe not for the fans of Star Wars movies, but people with an appetite for art movies should check out it.
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Joolz
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Posted: July 31 2006 at 08:05 |
video vertigo wrote:
Track listing
1. In the Flesh?
2. The Thin Ice
3. Another Brick in the Wall (Part One)
4. The Happiest Days of Our Lives
5. Another Brick in the Wall (Part Two)
6. Mother
7. Goodbye Blue Sky
8. Empty Spaces
9. What Shall We Do Now?
10. Young Lust
11. One of My Turns
12. Don't Leave Me Now
13. Another Brick in the Wall (Part Three)
14. Goodbye Cruel World
15. Is There Anybody Out There?
16. Nobody Home
17. Vera
18. Bring the Boys Back Home
19. Comfortably Numb
20. The Show Must Go On
21. In the Flesh
22. Run Like Hell
23. Waiting for the Worms
24. Stop
25. The Trial
26. Outside the Wall
does that answer the hey you question?
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Well, no because that list is incorrect. I believe The Show Must Go On was also omitted from the film soundtrack, but When The Tigers Broke Free was certainly there!
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