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Ricochet 
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
 Posted: July 28 2006 at 00:42 |
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Why such a compromise, Guigo?
Let the 500th review be one reasonable well, not some utterly rudimentary stranger going, in so few words, " I won't tell anything, cause it has already been told.Yep, this is the greatest. BYE!"  
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Atkingani
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 09:21 |
Not definitive, Rico... others' opinions also count.
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Ricochet
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 09:38 |
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well,okay......I assume.
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 12:16 |
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I PM'd the author of the PF review inviting them to submit a revision, or to defend their review here.
The JT reviews are a bit vague, but OK.
Wyatt review, yes I'm inclined to agree says nothing, looks like Guigo dealt with it.
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Ricochet
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 15:14 |
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DISCIPLINE — Unfolded Like Staircase
Review by after
1. Deletion. 2. Translation, then deletion.
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 15:29 |
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Damn Rico...you are quick!!!!
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Ricochet
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 15:31 |
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Ahahah!
 BTW, I think I can almost translate it myself .  Lejos el mejor grupo progresivo de los años 90.Soy un gran fan de la mucica de excelencia y les puedo afirmar que DISCIPLINE es un grupo que refleja en un 100% perfeccionismo, limoieza,claridad y permanencia. ... the major prog group of the 90s. Am a great fan of excelent music (?) and I can't state that Discipline is a group that reflects a (?) 100% perfection, ...., clearness and ... |
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: July 28 2006 at 15:38 |
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Taken care of Rico.
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: July 29 2006 at 14:44 |
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http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=85105
The first paragraph is totally uncalled for. |
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Trickster F.
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Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
Posted: July 29 2006 at 15:18 |
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VOIVOD — Katorz
Review by Clark Ashton
Posted Saturday, July 29, 2006, 15:13 EST | Permanent link |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: July 30 2006 at 05:06 |
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This review is borderline for me, what do you guys think?
SOFT MACHINE — Third Review by wonder_warriors
He really doesn't say much about the music, except he hates the keyboards, which he finds similar to Nine Feet Underground, which is by a different band of course. He goes into very little detail apart from that. Keep or delete? I know this is our beloved Andrea, but this review is extremely difficult to understand, even for me... BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO — Buone Notizie Review by MANDRAKEROOT (Andrea Salvador)
What's the general consensus here? Edited by Geck0 - July 30 2006 at 05:09 |
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Raff
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
Posted: July 30 2006 at 05:20 |
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Personally, I would delete the first, which is quite off-topic (and of course extremely offensive to a Robert Wyatt fan like you!
 ), and edit the second to make it sound a bit more English... Unfortunately, Andrea has admitted to using an online translator, which manages to do things no human being would dream of (and I speak as a former language teacher with 15 years' experience...). Just my two eurocents, BTW... |
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20240 |
Posted: July 30 2006 at 05:29 |
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Regarding the Soft Machine review (which I do not agree with one single bit >> I love the album), but I cab see where this guy is coming from >> if you do not like jazz-rock , this album can be chore to listen to! He does not like wahwah distorted organs! Fine !
For me it is valid enough to keep (I wish he spoke more of Third and less then 9ft, though)
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: July 30 2006 at 05:46 |
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That's my point, Hugues, he doesn't mention the actual album he's reviewing enough. I can understand why he dislikes it and that's not the problem I have (everyone is entitled to an opinion of course), I just wish he'd (presuming they're male of course) gone into more detail about the music.
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: July 30 2006 at 08:32 |
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85105 - I agree Jody, edited before I saw your report. I reckon the others above are OK, if variable in quality.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 13:21 |
Me and the reviewer discussed the first paragraph and he agreed to edit it. |
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: July 30 2006 at 13:22 |
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I hate to complain about a review for a band I added(not many of them get reviewed...
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http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=85174 |
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Dalezilla
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VIP Member Joined: July 28 2005 Status: Offline Points: 5113 |
Posted: July 30 2006 at 16:36 |
THE MARS VOLTA — AmputechtureReview by knukkldrager
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billbuckner
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Joined: May 07 2006 Status: Offline Points: 433 |
Posted: July 30 2006 at 17:15 |
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True, but unacceptable.
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Atkingani
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
Posted: July 30 2006 at 17:28 |
This is a matter to be discussed in our forums IMO. I wrote a letter to the "reviewer" and deleted the review.
BTW, if I had received an advanced copy I wouldn't like to be accused of theft.
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Ricochet wrote:
Lejos el mejor grupo progresivo de los años 90.Soy un gran fan de la mucica de excelencia
y les puedo afirmar que DISCIPLINE es un grupo que refleja en un 100% perfeccionismo,
limoieza,claridad y permanencia. 
I'll admit this is a piss-poor review for everyone else, but the Iron Gang will see where I'm coming from. I fell in love with Voivod with the release of "Killing Technology", I am lucky enough to have seem them on their "Nothingface" & "The Outer Limits" tours (On the "Angel Rat" tour; they opened for Rush. I love early Rush, but at the time, I was a club show regular). But let me cut to the chase. These shows and albums were a great part, aside form an early infatuation with Yes & Jethro Tull: due to my older sister, of my prog-rock tendencies. This music hit me like a ton of bricks then & still does today. I was very angey when Snake left, but was also disappionted when he rejoined and the result was less than spectacular (Voivod self titled). Katorz is much like that album, and "Angel Rat" a somewhat dumbed-down version of one of the most complex music acts ever. 
This was an incredibly dissapointing album and one stars is almost generous. If
your looking for a long rambling incoherant mess this is the place to come. It
occasionally does good things but these are seldom and just draw attention to how
tiresome the rest of it is. 
GOOD (or bad) NEWS
According to the Mars Volta website, this album that every "reviewer" opines about isn't released until September 12, 2006!! I wonder how a bunch of arrogant prog fans feel they have a right to rip off Mars Volta, or any other artists for that matter! I myself cannot give a review because I have not illegally downloaded (stole) someone else's property. This is the last tlme I'll waste my time reading opinions from common ordinary thieves. Especially since there seems to be so many of them here... And don't give me that same ol' song and dance about how you're going to buy it when it comes out, and how spreading illegal copies of someone's work actually HELPS the band. That's all total BS and just a poor rationalization for ripping off and not PAYING for what you're supposed to. I seriously hope a thief in your own neighborhoods takes fancy to something that you own and has the same attitude that you cons here have; oh, I really like that, I think I'll just "demo" it for a while and if I truly like it, I tell all my friends how cool it is and they'll buy one too! Not a perfect analogy I know but I'm so pissed off I can't even think straight! THIEVES!