Hippies....

James Lee wrote: Speaking of Zappa, Joren's signature pic isn't showing up for me anymore. Anyone else?

I didn't see it either, but it's back! (I guess there were problems on the website I 'borrowed' it from)

I never liked Hippies for the reasons expresed by other posters before me, but I don't want to make stereotypes with the risk of sounding like the fanatic we were talking some days ago (Mr. Oakes if I remember well).

Iván

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A Wavy Gravy Nipple Slip..... 

 

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I am/was a hippie.

Wait a minute. No. There isn't any such thing as a hippie now. I'm only 25. Hippies are from the 60s and 70s when the term was actually relevant and everything it represented was actually ideologically fresh and revolutionary. The hippies you think are hippies today are at best neo-hippies. It's still a trickle down of the ethics and culture, but it's not the same. Everything's been done now.

Dreadlocks were worn in the original movement mainy by Rasta/African American characters and perhaps those who were really down on their luck and couldn't get that shag cut properly, hence the matted dreads (it doesn't happen that way with the Negroid hair type and thus the dreadlock on a white person was considered "dirty") So over years of social conditioning this stereotype was woven (pardon the pun) into the hippie movement of the 90s. 

With it came many other things concerning a certain passive anarchy towards the current paradigm. Much like the original movement, these attitudes were whitewashed as "apathy" by other folks (taking the place of the condemning of the immorality of the original movement in general - free love, sex, drugs, rock'n'roll, etc) to supress the fact that neo-hippies' liberal attitudes were a shrewd contest against other conservative values. But the hypocrisy was too far gone by the 90s - mostly everyone was a hippie as the original term described because of the change in moral attitudes from pre 60s and 70s, directly as a cause of the hippie movement. This is because the original hippie movement was massively successful (as were other revolutions of its time) and subsequently proceeded to erode the playing field of the western world to a more liberal society in general). The assassination of John Lennon is suspect here. I'll not get into that right now. 

So what has happened? Neo-hippies are actually an opposition to the Yuppies or corporate moguls of the 80s and 90s (original hippies' children). This in turn furthered to notion of the "down on his luck" or "dirty" hippie in the 90s because the rebellion was taken to the extent of simply giving up on materials of cultural society. (Yuppies had become "the man")

Phish and jam bands have something to do with this as if Phish itself was the poster neo-hippie band. But really Phish is a poster band for the entire 60s and 70s hippie movement, not just the Grateful Dead because so many of these neo-hippies follow their recourse. Sticking it to the man had become mainstream so to speck - even though Phish was never in the media or popular. But underground is still pop music, technically. But so much more diversity has happened that everything has been forced into outrageous categories. Hip hop comes to mind around this time because it was in the same category - state dissent. Unfortunately now it's so diverse and blurred that a new revolution is coming. That's another thread.

I'm going to see Phish's last concert ever on August 14 and 15 in Vermont, their home state. It's a camping festival. Nothing bad will happen there but there will be over 80 000 people. I wonder what would happen if 80 000 people got together for a Metallica camp out. Nothing bad, probably.

But the Rasta's are the serious dreadlock masters.

Easy Livin:

Actually, I'm not sure that many of us would have known what the word "parameters" meant!...

Peace (and love and light and beauty and truth and...)

dude wrote: YEAH MAN...ITS LIKE....YOU KNOW...ITS ALL REAL!......LIKE...I FEEL ONE WITH THE EARTH AND THE UNIVERSE MAN........AND THE PLANTS AND ANIMALS...............................ESPECIALLY THE PLANTS!!....SOME ARE COOL MAN....THEY MAKE YOU FEEL...LIKE YOU KNOW........ONE   WITH EVERYTHING....THE WAY THEY MAKE YOU FEEL.......ITS LIKE...ITS ALL REAL MAN!!...........AND I LOVE EVERYONE MAN.....AS OFTEN AS I CAN TO ........BECAUSE....LOVE,YEAH ITS WHERE ITS AT MAN...AND PEACE,.....YEAH IM ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR A PIECE MAN...CAUSE ITS ALL REAL....THATS WHY I GET LIKE THIS MAN ....TO GET RAEL...AND TO BE ONE WITH THE PLANTS MAN ESPECIALLY THE MUSHROOMS MAN THEY REALLY SPAEK TO ME MAN!!! "WE LOVE YOU"THEY SAY....ITS ....OH WOW!!!....ITS ALL SO RAEL THAT SOMETIMES IT GETS REAL HEAVY MAN AND I FREAK OUT AT THE REALITY OF IT ALL MAN AND THEN MY FRIENDS HAVE TO GET LIKE....MEDICAL HELP MAN....AND I SPEND DAYS....COMING DOWN MAN ITS LIKE........TOTALLY ZEN MAN.......... YOU ARE I AND I AM YOU,ZERO THE HERO,ITS LIKE TOTALLY RIGHT MAN, I CAN DIG IT....I DONT KNOW WHAT IT MEANS BUT ITS TRUE AND VIBRATES WITH COSMIC HARMONY MAN!!!!!!!! PEACE BROTHERS(AND SISTERS....SORRY) OH MAN!!!... I GOT THE MUNCHIES NOW BUT THIS CHAIR IS SO COMFY....WHAT A HASTLE MAN ,IT MEANS I HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AND THAT IS LIKE...NOT COOL

Here we see the classic mistake - a young man confusing the words 'hippy' and 'sad git'

I've just listened to Mad River first album, am I hippie?

I  had Peter Frampton hair when I was in High school.

my parents were hippies. that includes everything, from "sweet smoke" to "love-ins". they were both 18 when I was born in Dec 68 and lived in the center of the movement. by the age of 3 I had seen more sex-orgies than most people will ever see in their whole lives. I definitely had a weird and educating childhood

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I'm not and not planning to be