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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2006 at 12:45
I just realised I hadn't posted here yet... OK, if we consider the "founding fathers" of prog, then I would have to say:

King Crimson
Yes
Genesis (though not a big fan)
ELP
Pink Floyd
Jethro Tull (as a sixth member of the elite)

Of course, if we want to include other influential bands from the early Seventies, each embodying a different take on prog, I'd have to mention VdGG, Gentle Giant, Caravan, Camel, Focus and some of the Italian bands. Rush, as much as I love them, came somewhat later... and please, please, please, no DT!!!Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2006 at 14:45
It's pretty clear that Pink floyd, Yes and Genesis are the big THREE, since almost everybody mentions them in their replies. Then we've got KC, Rush, ELP and Jethro tull as the four to compete for the last places. VDGG and GG i donät see as competition to these, no matter how good they may be.
I don't know, personally i'd put Jethro and ELP on there, instead of King Crimson (but i've never been a fan of ITCOTCK, so i guess that many will disagree).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2006 at 17:51
Originally posted by Evans Evans wrote:

It's pretty clear that Pink floyd, Yes and Genesis are the big THREE, since almost everybody mentions them in their replies. Then we've got KC, Rush, ELP and Jethro tull as the four to compete for the last places. VDGG and GG i donät see as competition to these, no matter how good they may be.
I don't know, personally i'd put Jethro and ELP on there, instead of King Crimson (but i've never been a fan of ITCOTCK, so i guess that many will disagree).


Pretty much agree with all of this 'cept maybe I would have Floyd higher in the list, although thinking about the time period they would have Barret with at this time who Did Not do prog.
I would have include Caravan though
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2006 at 08:47
the big 3 thats easy............Pink Floyd, Tangerine Dream and Frank Zappa.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2006 at 08:52
yes
rush
genesis
vdgg
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2006 at 09:40
The Big 5 seems to be the five most succesful of the early 70s prog bands:

Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, ELP and Jethro Tull...

...IMHO, it's defenitely arguable.

The 5 prog acts (Listed in PA, including proto-prog and prog related.) who have sold the most (In the US, RIAA is the only ones who keeps track on sold units in their country as far as I know.):

The Beatles (168 millions), Pink Floyd (73), Queen (31.5), Rush (24.5) and Genesis (21.5)

My own top 5 (atm) is:

Genesis, Amon Düül II, Steve Hackett, Yes and ELP

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:26
Originally posted by Frasse Frasse wrote:

The Big 5 seems to be the five most succesful of the early 70s prog bands:

Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, ELP and Jethro Tull...

...IMHO, it's defenitely arguable.

The 5 prog acts (Listed in PA, including proto-prog and prog related.) who have sold the most (In the US, RIAA is the only ones who keeps track on sold units in their country as far as I know.):

The Beatles (168 millions), Pink Floyd (73), Queen (31.5), Rush (24.5) and Genesis (21.5)

My own top 5 (atm) is:

Genesis, Amon Düül II, Steve Hackett, Yes and ELP




I'm  sure as heck not an expert on the 'krautrock' scene though I really dig it.... but have seen several sites refer to Amon Duul II as one the most important and influential groups that you may have never heard of... epecially the Joe-Six Packs of the musical listeners of the world.  Nice shout out...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:32
A matter of taste, Micky Wink , even very subjective ... did you know that Rush also influenced the Krautrock scene Wacko .................. LOLLOL !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:42
In my opinion, the Big 5 supergroups are:

King Crimson
Soft Machine
Van Der Graaf Generator
Caravan
ELP

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2006 at 17:45
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

A matter of taste, Micky Wink , even very subjective ... did you know that Rush also influenced the Krautrock scene Wacko .................. LOLLOL !



hahah.. never heard that before... 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2006 at 20:00
Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

the big 3 thats easy............Pink Floyd, Tangerine Dream and Frank Zappa.
 
What about... Queen, Triumph, and ....
 
George Michael LOL
Fire up the flux capacitor ! We're taking this Delorean through all four dimensions.

What is the future of prog ? Genesis reunion ? I'm not telling!That could upset the thyme/space continuum.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2006 at 20:23
Aren't super groups made out of musicians who were in otjher bands and formed to become massive (or super). Using this context ELP would be first and that's it, however Transatlantic would be laughed out the door.
UK would probably be next, King Crimson wouldn't count as they have had 30 million different musicians in there.
 
So there you have it, a definitive 2 super groups in prog rock.............but no, someone else may talk some sh*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2006 at 20:26
Originally posted by spacecraft spacecraft wrote:

Aren't super groups made out of musicians who were in otjher bands and formed to become massive (or super). Using this context ELP would be first and that's it, however Transatlantic would be laughed out the door.
UK would probably be next, King Crimson wouldn't count as they have had 30 million different musicians in there.
 
So there you have it, a definitive 2 super groups in prog rock.............but no, someone else may talk some sh*t.



hahah... no one here would do that...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2006 at 00:43
Top of the Top of the 70's are (in no particular order):
King Crimson / Genesis / Van Der Graaf Generator
 
When I am saying "best", I normally mean "I like most" as opposed to "other people think"
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 02:29
1. Yes
2. ELP
3. Pink Floyd
4. Genesis
5. King Crimson
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 08:47
Only Pink Floyd is a super group like Beatles and Stones...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 11:26
Were'nt 'ASIA' the first supergroup. I remember them being billed as such by the press in the early 80's!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 16:15
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

Were'nt 'ASIA' the first supergroup. I remember them being billed as such by the press in the early 80's!
 
No, the first Prog Supergroup (As a team created from members that came from other Groups) was ELP:
  1. Emo came from The Nice
  2. Lake came from King Crimson and The Gods (With Ken Hensley and Lee Kerslake)
  3. Palmer came from Arthur Brown.

BTW: There were several Supergroups before ASIA, probably the most notorious after ELP was UK.

Iván



Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - July 30 2006 at 16:17
            
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 18:36
No Ivan, the first supergroup was Cream Wink !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 19:22
What famous group was Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce in? Before Cream. Clapton wasn't exactly a huge name back then, it is noted by most observors that ELP (all members had some success) were the first supergroup, and not Cream, who. by the way, aren't prog...but in this place you never know.
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