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    Posted: July 25 2006 at 23:07

i think One and Third are my favourites

 

Two's very good too

so's Fourth
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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A big enough fan that you don't particularly care for their career after Wyatt departed? Wink
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

. I really need Jet Propelled Photographs still.


But it is demos done in a rush and closer to Wilde Flowers than Soft Machine or Volume 2. It was probably only issued when (former Yardbirds manager) Giorgio Gomelsky the demos' producer and copyright-holder  realised Soft Machine might make it big about 3 or 4 years after the recordings - Gomelsky had the reputation of a conman, and he also conned the public by issuing the demos across one side each of two separate LPs entitled Rock Generation...... and then there must be 10 variants since so beware. I have Rock Generation Volume 8 (on the original French Byg Records) and later got the whole session on the LP reissue Soft Machine At The Beginning (Charley/Oxford Records with apparent loving liner notes by Gomelsky himself...). Only later did the session get called Jet Propelled Photographs - presumably to avoid  Gomelsky's copyright - and that would have been the 3 rd or 4th variant on LP.

As I said, it is worth sampling Daevid Allen truly loving re-recording of the tunes from the Gomelsky session, about 3 years ago working as University Of Errors, called Jet Propelled Photographs.
I have heard of the University of Errors album. I really want to get JPP though, I'm a big enough fan to find them worthwile I think.
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I have the original two singles by The Soft Machine on my Anthology CD and they're very quirky indeed, due to Daevid Allen's influence.

I actually really like their later stuff as well, because I'm a huge fan of jazz/fusion.  I don't have Bundles or Softs, but I do have the second BBC album and one other live recording.

I have the new Soft Machine CD/DVD on order and that will hopefully arrive soon!
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Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

. I really need Jet Propelled Photographs still.


But it is demos done in a rush and closer to Wilde Flowers than Soft Machine or Volume 2. It was probably only issued when (former Yardbirds manager) Giorgio Gomelsky the demos' producer and copyright-holder  realised Soft Machine might make it big about 3 or 4 years after the recordings - Gomelsky had the reputation of a conman, and he also conned the public by issuing the demos across one side each of two separate LPs entitled Rock Generation...... and then there must be 10 variants since so beware. I have Rock Generation Volume 8 (on the original French Byg Records) and later got the whole session on the LP reissue Soft Machine At The Beginning (Charley/Oxford Records with apparent loving liner notes by Gomelsky himself...). Only later did the session get called Jet Propelled Photographs - presumably to avoid  Gomelsky's copyright - and that would have been the 3 rd or 4th variant on LP.

As I said, it is worth sampling Daevid Allen truly loving re-recording of the tunes from the Gomelsky session, about 3 years ago working as University Of Errors, called Jet Propelled Photographs.
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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 11:04
The first two of course! Third is pretty dull except for Moon in June, and the rest have nothing to do with the original sound of The Soft Machine. I'm a huge fan of those two ablums. I really need Jet Propelled Photographs still.
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Points: 12818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2006 at 10:56
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First for me, also love "Jet Propelled Photograph" with Daevid Allen's wonky guitar work.

 
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Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

You're weird Blowie!  Why no debut in the top 6?

I guess you prefer the later era, no matter.
 
 
Yeah, plus that I only heave heard their two first albums one time, and can't remember how they are.
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The BBC sessions, especially the 1967-71 set, are a must to anyone who has overplayed their first seven albums.  Fantastic sound quality and definitive versions of some of their best numbers.  The only problem is....the price.  No bargains here.
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Third, followed by Volume 2, and then Seven. I don't have listened to most of SM albums, but these three are all superb.
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 For a top 5 , I can't decide from the following 6
Paradiso
Soft Machine
Volume 2
Third
Floating World

and now Grides released last month by Cuneiform of the Third period band, has really got me. The pairing of a CD of a recording from 1970 of a major Dutch gig (but surroundings a million miles from the Paradiso), with a real rarity DVD footage of the band in German 1971, help make this a very special album set to me.
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Volume 1 for me.  Great combination of Jazz and psychedelia.
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One and two are my favs. I miss Roberts voice beyond that. The cross of psychedelic and jazz from the early period is my prefered era of the Softs. I do like Noisette, especially Eamonn Andrews, very intense. Third and Forth are very good... but I miss Robert. I find their latter work to be more in the contempary jazz/fusion genre.
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Points: 3278 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2006 at 03:31
Third, awsome.
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Hi there  Dick,
yes I agree regarding British Tour 75.  I saw that line-up as well and Etheridge was very powerful. Sadly they never quite got into their stride regarding material - if people like revved up guitar going over some tricksy time sigs then British Tour 75 if worth checking out.  I'm going to have to listen to it again now. 
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Hi Sid
 
And we were talking Hector Zazou last time.
 
Very much support your view that Floating World (released only  in the last month or so), a recording of the Bundles music made quite a few months  before Machine went in the studio to record Bundles, clearly shows Bundles to be tired in comparison. Whether the players had become tired of playing the music and lost the energy to give all, or the production of Bundles lacks something, I wouldn't care to say. I think some (but not all) that energy was regained by the time John Etheridge had stepped into Holdsworth shoes, and can be heard from November 1975 playing Bundles music on British Tour '75.
 
Just read with great curiosity claims that both Brian Godding and Olly Hassell also auditioned as Holdsworth's replacement - it appears Holdsworth recommended more than John Etheridge for the gig. Perhaps you can discover if there is truth in this? BTW the still unreleased recording made of the Tony Williams Lifetime in Stockholm, with Jack Bruce and Holdsworth in line-up, and known as the Wildlife session probably dates from 1975. The story goes Olly Hassell played Great Balls of Fire as his audition piece - with his teeth ................................................


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I would have to add to the chorus of voices which claim Third as being the album to have.  I love the  contrasts on this set;hardness, angularity and space.  In respect of later period albums  Seven has a time and place association for me that makes it difficult for me to leave behind.  However, if it absolutely positively had to be just the one then Third would be it.

The recently released Floating World Live is well worth investigating as well as it shows just how powerful an album Bundles could have been.
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Bundles.
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1, 2, and 3. those are the ones that i have.

(im in a big softs kick right now)
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