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Thanks for the help guys. Over the last little while I have done a little bit of researching into some interviews and other likely sources of information which I thought might be interesting. I came up with some very interesting interviews and was amazing to see how influenced their music is by the Krautrock scene. Well I am still unsure of what the band sounds like but there is definately some interesing stuff to read, which I think anybody into experimental noise music might be interested in reading.

An interview with Steven Stapleton the brain child behind the project.

www.brainwashed.com/nww/words/wire1997.html

This next page is a rather interesting site which has lots of links to more interviews and the bands offical website.

tgk.konshak.org/nww/about.html

Also from reading up on some of this information I have been tempted to look more into the band Throbbing Grissle. And also look a little more into the group Current 93, I used to have one of their albums on my computer which interested me greatly (from memory it was their lastest one), sort of a spoken work folk music with very interesting lyrics. Has anybody heard of these two groups? Both are available from my local store so I am in a little bit of luck.



Also I don't know if people are interested but when I searching about I found an exract of a very recent "French TV" interview which should be fully out on Progressive Newsletter sometime soon. Just if people are interested.

www.progressive-newsletter.de/index.htm?/intfrenc.htm

One last thing for the day, how is everybody enjoying their Merzbow? I'm quite enjoying 'Mantra' at the moment. Listed to it again last night, it had some strange effect on me

I have only listened the album once so far but it left me with pleasent feelings so far. I found it quite an easy listening experience, much easier than most Avant-jazz I have listen to, though I not sure at this moment to take this as a good or bad thing. Put it this way I have not been blown away by it at this point in time. I remember little bits a pieces for my earlier listening but for most parts I had forgotten the overall sound of the band, so it was in someway just like listening to it for the first time.

Geck0 wrote: You can't listen to technical, avant-garde music all your life Adam!  It's nice to listen to some chilled jazz every so often.I think it may grow on you with further listens.  It's not a bad album at all, you know that, but I guess because you listen to more extreme forms of music, you find it harder to enjoy.I wonder what Joren and Assaf thought of it...

I could not help but laugh when you said that. I will definately give it some more listens, I'm not going to right it off just yet. I still found it an enjoyable experience just not something that blew me off my feet. You would probably be surprised by some of the stuff in my collection.

I'll post my first impressions of Merzbow . . . . Ouch!. That band I think ruined my ears. I mean, this is a very hard band to get into and I don't think I'm not going to be able to make that journey. At least Merzbuddha I found it a little bit enjoyable, but only a little (like a grain of salt). I would like to see some thoughts on them also. Someone in here find them enjoyable, if so, how? and why?

I'm sorry if it sounded like I was ranting (wich I think it was), but this is only my first impression of them and I wanted to see if people shared my feelings when they first heard them or actually liked them the first time around.

I see where it lies that people could enjoy it, I really like noisy music - Hemophiliac for instance. The only squabble I have about Merzbow is that there are physically pain-inducing sounds at times, such as a high whistle or crushing static. It's not so much that I dislike sounds that are harsh, it's just there's no way to listen to certain pitches and tones without damaging your hearing, and that's why I can never really get into it. If you want something like it, with a little less pain though, chamberry, you might have interest in the Hemophiliac live vol.6 album of John Zorn's 50th anniversary series.

Careful! Don't buy Hemophiliac on a whim - make sure you listen to some samples first because it's very avant/in the air music! But glad you took it to heart! It is also very free-form noise kind of music - just not as physically painful; however still exhausting (theres no drums!). www.cduniverse.com has samples of it.

On another note - Moonchild is great! I always want to listen to it more, but always forget to pick it out of the collection. It's super heavy and Patton's shrieks are extreme, but when you're ready to hear brute force, it's a great place to turn. If you enjoy that record, and enjoy Zorn's wild sax playing, I'm sure you won't have a problem with Hemophiliac.


Edited by Root Pepper - July 18 2006 at 06:57

Once again I must wish you luck with everything, Assaf. I will look forward to you popping your head in over here every now and again.

I will try and not recommend too many things


I think most people here would know, I only have been recently been introduced into the band Wolf Eyes. I have been listening to there lates album which is due to come over in late September this year, and have been pleasently surpirise in comparison to the sound sample I have heard. Also I was rather impressed with their split record with Smegma (thanks Joren).

Well I was looking up information this morning about the band and I came across some very sad news indeed.




"In June, Grey Daturas will hit the road in Australia for the first time since returning from their USA tour in April. They will be joining Sub Pop recording artist Wolf Eyes on their first visit to Australia.


Hailing from Detroit USA, Wolf Eyes have been terrorising audiences with their fierce take on industrial noise for close to 10 years now. With a discography of 50 + releases, countless tours with the likes of Sonic Youth and Whitehouse, and mass critical acclaim, Wolf Eyes are truly are a force to be reckon with.


Touring on the back of their most recent album, Burned Mind (Sub Pop / STOMP) you can see them live in action around the country with Grey Daturas at the following shows:


Thu 22 June - The East Brunswick Club, Melbourne (VIC)
Fri 23 June - Rocket Bar, Adelaide (SA)
Sat 24 June - The Spanish Club, Melbourne (VIC)
Sun 25 June - Newtown RSL, Sydney (VIC)
Mon 26 June - The Cambrige Hotel, Newcastle (NSW)
Wed 28 June - Great Northern Hotel, Byron Bay (NSW)
Thu 29 June - The Rev, Brisbane (QLD)
Fri 30 June - Jamie's Espresso Carpark, Brisbane (QLD)
Sat 1 July - The Marquee, Sydney (NSW)
Sun 2 July - The Tote, Collingwood (VIC)"


This was very saddening news indeed, it is not everyday a band like this comes over to Australia. So I am hoping they enjoyed themselves over here and come back sometime soon as I would be very interested in seeing this band live. Also I would have like to see how our local noise act "Grey Daturas" lived up to this challenge.

To listen some of their music

www.myspace.com/greydaturas

I think the third track probably gives be best insight in the bands sound, so see what you think

Anyway from this concert a limited edition EP with has come into being which I am definately thinking about buying.

"To coincide with their Australian Tour together, Industrial Noise pioneers Wolf Eyes (Detroit, USA) & Art Noise Rockers Grey Daturas (Melbourne, Australia) have recorded a number of exclusive tracks each for a Limited Edition (1000 copies only) Split Tour CD entitled The Black Plague.Released by Melbourne label Heathen Skulls, the Australian CD version of the Split Tour EP is packaged in a dark black deluxe Digi Pack. All 8 tracks (clocking in at over 40 minutes) presented by Wolf Eyes and Grey Daturas on this CD give you a taste of things to come, as both artists have new Albums out later in the year."

Well I don't know if this have been of any interest to anyone, but I though I would let people know.



    

Edited by Black Velvet - July 19 2006 at 18:22

Root Pepper wrote: I've tried to listen to Nurse With Wound but never known where to start. Heard a few random 30 seconds samples that I didn't enjoy, but can't judge much for such a vast number of releases and large span of time (which likely couples with many styles). Wish I could help, but I think we're all in the same place with this one.

Syzygy wrote: Fourside wrote: For those of you who haven't yet checked out This Heat's Deceit and Wha-ha-ha's Shinutokiwa Betsu, I urge you to nab both of these albums. They both have been mentioned in this thread, but I think these two bands need some emphasis. They are both RIO staples in my opinion, five star albums. Deceit is RIO akin to Faust and even 80's King Crimson, and Wha-ha-ha sounds almost video game like, but occured long before video games had developed music.     Deceit is essential listening, but if you're into This Heat you can buy the box set (6 remastered CDs plus book) for a lot less than buying the albums individually, although ReR will be issuing all of them as single CDs in the near future.

Are any of those releases closer to Deceit than their Self Titled album? I mean sure, I love giving the old electronic experiments a la Stockhausen or Faust's Rien a spin every once in a while, but I just can't get into that type of music as much. On Deceit they just bring in that "song" structure, and it works out oh so perfectly. I've been dawdling a bit at considering it THE RIO album, though I'm not sure if I want to go there yet.

Fourside wrote: For those of you who haven't yet checked out This Heat's Deceit and Wha-ha-ha's Shinutokiwa Betsu, I urge you to nab both of these albums. They both have been mentioned in this thread, but I think these two bands need some emphasis. They are both RIO staples in my opinion, five star albums. Deceit is RIO akin to Faust and even 80's King Crimson, and Wha-ha-ha sounds almost video game like, but occured long before video games had developed music.

I'm still working my way through This Heat, I have only heard the self titled, and I love the "old electronic experiments a la Stockhausen or Faust's Rien" but I have a love for eletronic experimentations, along with those two bands mentioned above. I will have to get around to listening to the others soon especially Deceit as it seems to be sited as their masterpiece.

One question that I want to ask with Wh-ha-ha, I want to check them out (considering the whole Japanese thing). You have suggested "Shinutokiwa Betsu". When I have been searching I have notice their other album "Getahaitekonakucha" seems to get rated better. So which album would you think would be the best to start with and do they both have a similar sound?