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chopper
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 12:05 |
This review of Wish You Were Here is extremely short - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=83872"
The greatest album in the world, right after Dream Theater's Scenes From A Memory.
This is truely a masterpiece of progressive music. It's excellent from start to finish,
including the legednary Shine On:s. Every single Pink Floyd - digger on this planet should
buy this record, since it is their greatest."but it did make me laugh - " The greatest album in the world, right after Dream Theater's Scenes From A Memory.". So surely that would make it the second greatest album in the world then?
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 12:52 |
already posted it.
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 13:46 |
Already dealt with...
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Ricochet
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 06:05 |
IQ — Nomzamo
Review by
Sean Trane
(Hugues Chantraine)
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Prog-Folk Specialist
I'd rather shut up than make enemies. But I probably made them in the
other reviews of IQ albums around that same period. So here it goes for
the fifty words minimum needed for my old review that was only seven
words long and got erased by a new rule (to which I fully adher ). is
that fifty yet? Close enough.
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how about we skip this from the Sean Trane perspective.
(no offence intended, mate)
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 06:23 |
^^ Yeah! I just saw the same by Sean. I almost agree with his rating, but it is definitely out of bounds of a review guidelines. I would offer a second chance to Hugues ( ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) ) to ammend it with some valid observations...
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andrea
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 09:43 |
Well, this is an interesting effort to write the band biogrphy, not a review of "Storia di un minuto"... Are you sure that this is the right place to keep it?
PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM) — Storia Di Un Minuto Review by fratelmaestro
An attempt is made here to piece together a history of P.F.M. from their earliest days. My knowledge of the band is rather limited and the information that follows has been collected from bits and pieces that I have found on the Internet. I welcome all contributions particularly from any Italians who stumble upon this humble website and can share some knowledge on the band.
It is safe to say that P.F.M. was probably the only Italian progressive rock band to have enjoyed an international success. Some people have described them as being an Italian "Genesis" but clearly in their earliest work King Crimson was a more powerful influence. However, this is not meant to label them as a copy of King Crimson as they had what can best be described as a unique "P.F.M." sound.
The band originated from a group called Quelli (Those Ones) which consisted of Franco "Yoghi" Mussida on guitar and vocals, Franz Di Cioccio on drums, Giorgio Piazza on bass and Flavio Premoli on keyboards. They were later joined by Antonio "Teo" Teocoli as well on guitar and with Alberto Radius who replaced Franco Mussida when he left to do his military service.
Quelli were quite successful in Italy mainly by doing Italian cover versions of foreign artists such as 'Per Vivere Insieme' ('Happy Together' by the Turtles) or 'Tornare Bambino' ('Hole in My Shoe' by Traffic). Due to their musical skills the group was also very popular and requested in recording studios as session musicians. They played for Mina, Battisti, Nomadi, Camaleonti and even at international events where they had to play 'hidden' behind stage while somebody else was monkeying about in the limelight!
Teocoli left the group to work in a cabaret and Radius later left the band to set up "Formula 3" when Mussida returned from the army.
In autumn of 1970 Di Cioccio, Mussida, Premoli and Piazza formed a new band, which was in need of a name. After spending a few days toying with a bunch of silly words the names "Isotta Fraschini" (a famous car name) and "Forneria Marconi" (a pastry shop in Brescia county, Italy) were left standing. The band preferred the name "Forneria Marconi" but felt that something was missing. Alessandro Colombini the artistic director of Numero Uno, the label they were signed to, suggested the word "Premiata". "Premiata" was a title awarded to famous craftsmen and it fit in well with the ideals of the band. So in the end "Premiata Forneria Marconi" was born. The name in a nutshell translates into English as "Marconi's Award-Winning Bakery", "P.F.M." for short. Not everyone at Numero Uno liked the name but the band stuck with it based on their philosophy: difficult to remember, more difficult to forget.
At this time P.F.M. was joined by Mauro Pagani who 'melted in' perfectly with the progressive ideas of the group. In 1971 they played as support band for Yes, Black Window, Deep Purple and Procol Harum. With King Crimson as their inspiration they wrote 'Impressioni di Settembre' using a synthesiser which was at that time quite unusual in Italy. Both the first and the second albums were great successes due (mostly) to the outstanding qualities of Mauro Pagani who on stage was equal to musicians like Ian Anderson and Darryl Way.
In 1973 the group signed a contract with the Emerson Lake & Palmer owned label 'Manticore'. This saw the release of their third album, "Photos of Ghosts", which was basically an English version of "Per un amico", their second album. Pete Sinfield, of King Crimson, wrote English lyrics (not direct translations of the Italian ones) for most of songs on this album. An English version of 'Č festa' from the first album was also added plus an instrumental song entitled 'Old Rain'. Oddly enough at this point in time Pagani became 'Paganini' outside of Italy due to his performance on the violin.
P.F.M. toured the US as a support band for Santana, the J. Geils Band, the Beach Boys, Poco, Frank Zappa, the Eagles, the Allman Brothers and ELP. At this stage Jan Patrick Djivas, from Switzerland, had replaced Giorgio Piazza on bass.
Their fourth album "L'isola di niente" followed and was again released with English lyrics by Sinfield under the name "The World Became The World". An English version of 'Impressioni di Settembre' was added and given the title track of the album. The association with Sinfield ended at this point and as Pete was kind enough to write me I shall allow his own words to shed some light on this period in the P.F.M. story.
"The boys did ask me to write the lyrics to "Chocolate Kings". I remember it well one evening at Greg Lake's house, if I would write the words for what was to become that album. However they insisted, as folk do on the cusp of success, that I must pay more attention to what 'they' wished to say and that it must be much more political and anti the US involvement in Vietnam. Since I lean naturally to the left, as it were, that should not have been a problem. However I declined. One because I had other work to finish, two because I couldn't face the thought of more endless vocal sessions but most importantly because I could not comprehend the irony of a European band on the verge of acceptance in the USA wishing to piss on their audience. The political views of the band at that time went from left to right. . .I wonder if you can guess which one was the 'communist' with a holiday home in Sardinia."
It is an unfortunate footnote that the Americans labelled P.F.M.'s style during this period "Spaghetti-Rock".
In 1975 Bernardo Lanzetti joined the group with vocals on "Chocolate Kings". Many people described his style in terms of Peter Gabriel (with laryngitis) but the album was far away from the direction of Genesis at any time in their career. Lanzetti's voice might well be judged as one of the best ever in Italian Rock Music. After the 1976 tour Pagani left the group to return to teaching and studying. He was shortly replaced by Gregory Bloch (violin for Mark Almond and It's a Beautiful Day) for the recording of "Jet Lag". At this point they embarked on their fourth and last US tour.
The following albums "Passpartů" and "Suonare Suonare" saw a lot of personnel changes with exceptions of Franz Di Cioccio and Franco Mussida. The band collaborated with Fabrizio De André for an Italian Tour of his music, which was later released as 2 albums. The album "Suonare Suonare" clearly shows the influence of this collaboration.
The beginning of the '80s saw a less internationally minded P.F.M. with all of their music geared toward the Italian market. Their later music became less 'progressive' and more accessible in a 'pop music' vane. Nonetheless P.F.M. have shown throughout their musical career, talent, versatility and an ability to venture into new directions without succumbing to the repetition of a set formula.
P.F.M. reunited in 1997 and produced a concept album entitled "Ulisse". They made radio and television appearances in Italy and an Italian tour in the fall and winter of 97/98 produced their latest live album "www.pfmpfm.it (il Best)".
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Atkingani
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 09:57 |
andrea wrote:
Well, this is an interesting effort to write the band biogrphy, not a review of "Storia di un minuto"... Are you sure that this is the right place to keep it?
PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM) — Storia Di Un Minuto Review by fratelmaestro
An attempt is made here to piece together a history of P.F.M. from their earliest days. My knowledge of the band is rather limited and the information that follows has been collected from bits and pieces that I have found on the Internet. I welcome all contributions particularly from any Italians who stumble upon this humble website and can share some knowledge on the band.
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Well spotted, andrea... to be handled with. Thanks! ![Smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 11:15 |
Ricochet wrote:
IQ — NomzamoReview by Sean Trane (Hugues Chantraine) SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Prog-Folk Specialist
I'd rather shut up than make enemies. But I probably made them in the other reviews of IQ albums around that same period. So here it goes for the fifty words minimum needed for my old review that was only seven words long and got erased by a new rule (to which I fully adher ). is that fifty yet? Close enough.
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how about we skip this from the Sean Trane perspective.
(no offence intended, mate)
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Seyo wrote:
^^ Yeah! I just saw the same by Sean. I almost agree with his rating, but it is definitely out of bounds of a review guidelines. I would offer a second chance to Hugues ( ) to ammend it with some valid observations... |
sh*te!!!!!!!!! My IQ reviews have been uncovered ![Angry](smileys/smiley7.gif) .
Of course, this is a joke review, but can anyone write a review about succh a garbage album while staying polite?
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Ricochet
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 11:37 |
I think I remained as polite as possible concerning awful albums.Including this one.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 18 2006 at 03:29 |
Ricochet wrote:
I think I remained as polite as possible concerning awful albums.Including this one. ![Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
So did I , I think!! ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Easy Livin
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Posted: July 18 2006 at 04:12 |
But why is it so bad Hugues?
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Atkingani
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Posted: July 18 2006 at 10:52 |
Agreed... ![Confused](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
I think the confusion went now! ![Smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 02:11 |
KING CRIMSON — Larks' Tongues in Aspic
Review by
Tasartir
(Alejandro)
WOW! I'm sitting here listening to Larks' Tongues in Aspic for the second time in my life and
I'm about to puke. The music is so good that it makes me want to puke at my own
innability. I play guitar, and every time I hear Fripp play I want to kill myself, I want to
puke, I want to throw my guitar out the window, Fripp makes me feel so inferior.
I recommend this album to everyone, but don't frett if you don't get what the band is
trying to do at first try, or even second try, or even third...just keep trying. Sit down and
listen to this album and all of its details, once you do and you keep your mind open you will
understand the beauty of all this chaos! Highly recommended!
Oh man, Larks' Tongues in Aspic part 2 just started...I think I'm gonna be sick...
I find this quite atrocious. ![Stern Smile](smileys/smiley22.gif)
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 04:00 |
Easy Livin wrote:
But why is it so bad Hugues?![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
I can't remember!!!!
Do not care enough to remember is most likely
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Easy Livin
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 04:20 |
It may vanish soon in its current form.
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 04:24 |
Easy Livin wrote:
It may vanish soon in its current form.![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
This is blackmail!!!! ![Angry](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif) ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
I'll get to it soon! Apparently it slipped your list you sent me. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Easy Livin
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 15:49 |
JUNIPHER GREENE — Communication
Review by
tomerikloe
01 - Communication
02 - Standby
03 - Biscuit
04 - Sunlight
05 - Talk Is A Bird
06 - If You Can Hear The Blackbird Sing
07 - Reflecitons
08 - Play On Stranger
09 - 1, After Midnight
this is a worthy follow up to the magnificent "friendship"
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thank you for the tracklist,but as a review this must go.
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Atkingani
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 19:33 |
Gone...
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