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Ricochet
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Posted: July 13 2006 at 10:17 |
MajesterX wrote:
Good. My only fear is that this person will keep making new accounts and continue doing the same thing. I hope everything works out.
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Well,regarding that,I don't think the mods can do much. No e-mail link, no ban possible. But there will be no such thing as a pandemonia from him. Whenever he wants to go crazy,we'll be here.
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NutterAlert
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Posted: July 13 2006 at 10:26 |
The person doing this posting is probably the same one who launched an attack on Tony and his family many months ago.
If it is him (and due to my senility i've forgotten his name) he is a total sh*t and really deserves a good kicking.
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Ricochet
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Posted: July 13 2006 at 10:30 |
NutterAlert wrote:
The person doing this posting is probably the same one who launched an attack on Tony and his family many months ago.
If it is him (and due to my senility i've forgotten his name) he is a total sh*t and really deserves a good kicking. |
Yeah! Flowerking.
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getinvolved2006
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Posted: July 13 2006 at 10:32 |
Hi
After posting this review and receiving criticism for it, I did come onto the forums to explain myself, and also to apologise for its inaccuracies. I am on the website and browse the forums every day, yet I have not ventured back into reviewing since. However, I do believe that although this review is admittedly harsh and overly simplistic, the fact that I have expressed an opinion on an album does not deserve to be cited in the ‘inappropriate reviews’ section along with complaints about reviews containing utter gibberish, insults and those written in non-English.
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getinvolved2006
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Posted: July 13 2006 at 10:36 |
apologies (yes, I am a noob)
ClemofNazareth wrote:
I'd be interested in other's impressions on the appropriateness of this review. This individual became a member, recorded this as his only review the same day, and never came back to the site. By his own admission he only listened to the album four times, does not appear to know much else about the band, and his only substantive comments are that he doesn't think Hodgeson is a very good piano player and he didn't find the lyrics very complex. It doesn't seem to me could have had much of a grasp of the rating system, offers no specific examples of why/what he found the keyboards and lyrics not to his liking, and his only comment about any specific track is to call it "interesting".
SUPERTRAMP — Crime of the Century
Review by getinvolved2006 (Gareth Brazier)
After reading the reviews of this album I felt compelled to rush out and buy a copy, as I felt that it would fill a whole in my expanding prog collection. From the reviews I wasn't expecting pure prog rock, but a more gentle and simple style of music. What I wasn't expecting, however, was boredom.
After listening to this album four times, I cannot rouse any interest in it at all. It is by no means terrible, but after a year of listening to the greats such as Genesis, Yes, Jethro Tull and King Crimson, I found the music on offer here so simple and unchallenging. Much of the music is piano driven, yet I feel Roger Hodgson is at best an adequate piano player.
Many of the songs here seem based around the repetitive playing of keyboard or piano chords, which are simply layered upon one another to create the illusion of a complex song. The lyrics are unchallenging and uninteresting and many of the tracks seem deviod of direction or structure.
The only track on this album worthy of any real mention is Dreamer, which at least has a fairly interesting sound. However, this song is typical of the entire album as it simply consists of layers of bog-standard keyboard chords repeated over and over.
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Atkingani
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Posted: July 13 2006 at 11:05 |
getinvolved2006 wrote:
Hi
After posting this review and receiving criticism for it, I did come onto the forums to explain myself, and also to apologise for its inaccuracies. I am on the website and browse the forums every day, yet I have not ventured back into reviewing since. However, I do believe that although this review is admittedly harsh and overly simplistic, the fact that I have expressed an opinion on an album does not deserve to be cited in the ‘inappropriate reviews’ section along with complaints about reviews containing utter gibberish, insults and those written in non-English.
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Hi, getinvolved2006,
Thank you for visiting the forum (you're always welcome to participate here) and also for posting.
This section deals with reviews that do not match ProgArchives guidelines and these reviews are not necessarily gibberish or insults, some simply haven't enough listens to shape an opinion - as suggested by the mentioned guidelines.
Also forum members discuss here if some reviews are appropriate or not, but it's not a kind of judgement or stone-carved law.
However, I agree that we must separate the real inappropriate reviews from those that rose a mere discussion of concepts and ideas. In fact, we have been thinking in dividing this thread to get things clear.
Thank you again.
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The Miracle
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Posted: July 13 2006 at 19:10 |
Ricochet wrote:
NutterAlert wrote:
The person doing this posting is probably the same one who launched an attack on Tony and his family many months ago.
If it is him (and due to my senility i've forgotten his name) he is a total sh*t and really deserves a good kicking. |
Yeah! Flowerking.
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Flower child, Rico ![Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif) Flower King = Roine Stolt.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: July 13 2006 at 19:12 |
getinvolved2006 wrote:
After posting this review and receiving criticism for it, I did come onto the forums to explain myself, and also to apologise for its inaccuracies. I am on the website and browse the forums every day, yet I have not ventured back into reviewing since. However, I do believe that although this review is admittedly harsh and overly simplistic, the fact that I have expressed an opinion on an album does not deserve to be cited in the ‘inappropriate reviews’ section along with complaints about reviews containing utter gibberish, insults and those written in non-English.
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GI'06,
Good to know you are an active member of the site. Just to clarify - you were not being criticized for your review (at least not by me). You'll note I was specifically asking for the feedback of others on whether they felt it was appropriate and met the site's guidelines. I added my personal observations explaining why I felt it might not be.
As you can see from the few replies to my post, the general consensus seems to be that it was an appropriate review.
Best regards,
Clem
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Ricochet
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Posted: July 14 2006 at 07:18 |
getinvolved2006 wrote:
apologies (yes, I am a noob)
ClemofNazareth wrote:
I'd be interested in other's impressions on the appropriateness of this review. This individual became a member, recorded this as his only review the same day, and never came back to the site. By his own admission he only listened to the album four times, does not appear to know much else about the band, and his only substantive comments are that he doesn't think Hodgeson is a very good piano player and he didn't find the lyrics very complex. It doesn't seem to me could have had much of a grasp of the rating system, offers no specific examples of why/what he found the keyboards and lyrics not to his liking, and his only comment about any specific track is to call it "interesting".
SUPERTRAMP — Crime of the Century
Review by getinvolved2006 (Gareth Brazier)
After reading the reviews of this album I felt compelled to rush out and buy a copy, as I felt that it would fill a whole in my expanding prog collection. From the reviews I wasn't expecting pure prog rock, but a more gentle and simple style of music. What I wasn't expecting, however, was boredom.
After listening to this album four times, I cannot rouse any interest in it at all. It is by no means terrible, but after a year of listening to the greats such as Genesis, Yes, Jethro Tull and King Crimson, I found the music on offer here so simple and unchallenging. Much of the music is piano driven, yet I feel Roger Hodgson is at best an adequate piano player.
Many of the songs here seem based around the repetitive playing of keyboard or piano chords, which are simply layered upon one another to create the illusion of a complex song. The lyrics are unchallenging and uninteresting and many of the tracks seem deviod of direction or structure.
The only track on this album worthy of any real mention is Dreamer, which at least has a fairly interesting sound. However, this song is typical of the entire album as it simply consists of layers of bog-standard keyboard chords repeated over and over.
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Sorry, I don't see anything wrong or inappropriate with this review - except it is very different from my view of this album that I like a lot. But the review is a valid opinon.
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Trickster F.
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Posted: July 14 2006 at 07:23 |
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Joolz
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Posted: July 14 2006 at 08:19 |
I just noticed this review for the DVD/VHS version of PULSE (1995).
Note the two passages near the end I have highlighted: 1 - he is not reviewing the product, only its audio; 2 - he is advocating illegal downloadingPINK FLOYD — P-U-L-S-E
Review by
Palmer
O.K., I'm reviewing this P-U-L-S-E version because i have the audio track of the
video
on a double cd set, but it is not the real P-U-L-S-E album.(It's the same concert of
this DVD. It's got the same songlist).
It's really cool. It starts with a "Shine On..." version which contains an edit of parts
1 to 9 , lasting 13 minutes. It sounds very much like the original (which was
recorded 20 years before!). As Waters wasn't in the band by this time, Gilmour does
the lead vocal. This shows that Waters isn't the only one who can sing it well. Then
you've got songs from the post-Waters-era. Although many guys say Pink Floyd was
nothing after Waters left, I still think they had some cool songs : "Learning to
Fly"(1987), "High Hopes"(1994-one of my favourite Floyd songs. The guitar solo in
the end is amazing!), "Take it Back", "Comming back to life"(1994), "Sorrow"(1987-
One of the greatest guitar works by Gilmour) and "Keep Talking"(1994). After all
these songs,there's "Another brick in the wall pt2" which starts with the helicopter
and the final "ah-ah-ah" part from "Happiest days of our lives", and then bursts into
rock with:" We don't need no education!...". "One of these days " sounds identical
to the original, and it's amazing( you can't find this song in the PULSE CD).
The complete live version of "Dark side of the moon" is amazing. DSOTM is a really
cool album, and the fact that the whole of it is played live here makes it sound even
cooler!
"Speak to me", "Breathe", "On the run" and "Time/Breathe reprise" sound as great
as the original 1973 versions. Things start to change on "The great gig in the sky"
which sounds a lot better than the original (since the original souds more like a
collection of screams< but it's still a good song>, and this one has more proper
vocals). "Money" sounds amazing! Maybe the best version ever. Gilmour stretches
his guitar 2 minutes more, making the song last more than 8 minutes. "Us and them "
and "Any coloue you like" sound as amazing as the originals. Gilmour replaces Waters
vocals on "Brain damage" and "Eclipse" and he does really well. When you think
everything is finished, Wright, Mason, Gilmour and the other musicians go back to
the stage and play "Wish you were here"(which sounds the same as the studio
version <1975>), "Comfortably Numb"(With Wright, bassist Guy Pratt and extra
keyboardist Jon Carin replacing Water's vocal part, and a much, much longer guitar
solo by Gilmour, making the song last 9 minutes instead of just 6). "Run like hell" is
the best song to end a concert. The guitar sounds mind-blowing , the bass sounds
BRUTAL and the backing organ and drums really help to keep the greatness of the
song. The ending is the most brutal one I've ever heard!
Although I haven't got the video and this is the closest thing to it I've got, I once
saw the videos of "WYWH" and "Comfortably numb" from this concert, and saw fotos
of every song in this show on a website. Highly recomended. Get it if you can, and if
you can't , then, download its audio track, as I did. A pure masterpiece of live music!
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Ricochet
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Atkingani
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Posted: July 15 2006 at 15:02 |
Joolz wrote:
I just noticed this review for the DVD/VHS version of PULSE (1995).
Note the two passages near the end I have highlighted: 1 - he is not reviewing the product, only its audio; 2 - he is advocating illegal downloading
PINK FLOYD — P-U-L-S-EReview by Palmer
Posted Thursday, December 29, 2005, 15:38 EST
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Dealt with, J ![Smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
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Joolz
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Posted: July 15 2006 at 15:32 |
I'm afraid I do object to reviews with: 1. Bad spelling 2. Bad grammar 3. Factual inaccuracies 4. Indiscriminate use of capital letters for nouns 5. Use of substitute swear words PINK FLOYD — The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn
Review by
daniel.zafar
This is my favorite friken prog album ever, along with "In the Court of the Crimson King". All
the songs are really really happy and I like the happiness. It is great. hes jus so happy.
syd barret was a bit of a genius but the acid really drove his songwriting.
the best songs from the album are (to me): bike, the gnome, interstellar overdrive, and
flaming. matlida mother is also really good.
barrets' style of singing is something ive never really heard before but its really good, he
over-pronunciates things and has simple childish rymes, especially in "the gnome"
and "bike". also, if you learn "bike", its really fun to sing in fornt of your friends, always a
good laugh.
the album is fricken WONDERFUL. Get it, its the best floyd album. so happy. they actually
recorded it with the beatles at abbey road when they were writing SPLHCB, so you can see
the overlap in style.
Its good because of its trippyness, happy demenor, creative songwriting and lyrics, able to
be listened to while sober (unlike other pink floyd), and its overall energy. It just has a
great feeling to it.
the only part of the album I dont like is when there making funny sounds at the beggining
of pow. r torch (or whatever). but i'm getting used to it.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 15 2006 at 16:01 |
Ouch! I do see your point, but can we really discriminate against those who do this? Some people are dyslexic and cannot spell very well and may have problems with grammar. Some people also cannot spell particular words (who aren't necessarily dyslexic).
I agree about the replacement of vulgar words however.
I was guilty of a factual error in my own review (which I have since corrected), so I know it's easy to do so.
What's everyone elses viewpoint on this?
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Atkingani
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Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:02 |
The only question is to define the boundaries of "bad spelling" and "bad grammar" since many reviewers are non-English speakers (my case) - however, I have the facility to edit my reviews and do it whenever I find an error.
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video vertigo
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Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:12 |
I think if the review was cleaned up it would be perfectly acceptable. Omit the "fricken" parts and use spell check and then it's good to go.
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Ricochet
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 08:44 |
PINK FLOYD — Wish You Were Here
Review by
aksu
The greatest album in the world, right after Dream Theater's Scenes From A Memory.
This is truely a masterpiece of progressive music. It's excellent from start to finish,
including the legednary Shine On:s. Every single Pink Floyd - digger on this planet should
buy this record, since it is their greatest.
Aus.
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Joolz
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Posted: July 16 2006 at 08:51 |
video vertigo wrote:
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I agree - if its nouns and start of sentences had caps, and 'fricken' was removed I would not have made any comment. Indeed, 5 points for one of my favourite albums has got to be a good thing, right? ![LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif) As for spelling, I can overlook the odd mistake, but there are such things as spell checkers
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