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    Posted: July 14 2006 at 04:31
Interesting report on Guardian online today.  It worries me.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1820065,00.html


I didn't realise Bumble Bees were also under threat.

This just proves how bad the human race is.  We let all this happen without much thought, until it's too late.

It saddens me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2006 at 04:51
Don't worry Geck0, they're all in my bathroom flying round the light each evening
 
To be slightly more emphathetic; one day we will realise that we have wiped out most species on this planet, destroyed the ozone layer and put the whole future of the planet in jeopardy. For now, as long as the fat cats continue getting fatter then why worry. Arseholes.Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2006 at 04:51
The report is alarming,you are right to be concerned, James - myself a qualified bee-keeper, i have known about this for years. Although many insect species are thriving in areas such as along motorways and suburban gardens (although the use of garden centre pesticides is detrimental and should be banned) most of the blame lies with modern farming methods, i.e. general pesticides interrupting the life-cycle chain, and the removal of ancient hedgerows and patches of woodland. People can help by introducing "untidy" areas or ponds in their back gardens to create wildlife areas such as piles of logs, nettle patches and bee-friendly flowering shrubs (most front gardens are concreted over, re-foliating them would help).
 
An interesting point, the honey bees we see in this country now were actually imported from Italy when our native "black bee" were wiped out by disease in 1901. Bees kept in this country are under government legislation, and inspectors run tests on all apiaries every year.
 
 
article reporting the decline of the bumble bee...
 
 
Meadow decline forces bee species into extinction
By Charles Clover, Environment Editor


 

External Links
 
> WWF UK
 
> The Wildlife Trusts
 
> Checklist & status of British native bumble bee species - Flora-for-Fauna
 


THE short-haired bumble bee is the 154th species to become extinct in Britain this century, said the World Wide Fund For Nature yesterday.

Bombus subterraneus is, or was, one of 21 species of bumble bee in Britain, most of which can only be distinguished by experts. Bombus was one of the long-tongued bumble bees, with a proboscis that could take nectar from the flowers of traditional hay meadows.

The 95 per cent decline of ancient meadows and pastures since 1945 is thought to be the main reason for its decline. Another is the shift from the harvesting of hay once a year to the harvesting of silage several times a year. Silage harvesting chops off the top of the bee's nest, which is above ground, despite the bee's Latin name, either destroying it, or exposing it to disease.

The short-haired bumble bee was exported to New Zealand in 1885 to pollinate crops and is common there, but the last sighting in Britain was around Dungeness, Kent, in the early Eighties. After two years of intensive survey work all over the country, no trace of it has been found, says WWF.

Callum Rankine, WWF habitats and species officer, said: "Officially you need five years continuous survey work to pronounce a species extinct. But leading bee experts have been looking for it since the Eighties. If they say that it is extinct, that's good enough for us. This is a black day for British wildlife."

The bee joins the alpine butterwort (last recorded 1900), the Osprey (last recorded 1916, then reintroduced), the White-tailed eagle (last recorded 1916), Kentish plover (1935), opossom shrimp (1953), burbot (1970s), large tortoiseshell butterfly (1980s), mouse-eared bat (1990) and Essex emerald moth (1991) in dying out in Britain this century.

Conservationists say the extinction rate of three species every two years may rise in the next 20 years due to climate change, development pressures and the Common Agricultural Policy. WWF projections using government figures show that, if no action is taken to tighten the law on species protection, water voles will become extinct in 2003, the high brown fritillary butterfly and the pipistrelle bat in 2007 and the skylark in 2009.

Carol Hatton, WWF planning officer, said: "The dramatic decline and extinction of our native species is a sad reflection of the 1981 Wildlife and Countryside Act and its inability to protect our natural heritage."

The Government has proposed changes to the Act which have been bitterly criticised by landowners. The proposed measures have no legislative timetable. An early day motion supporting a new Wildlife Bill has attracted 289 supporters in the Commons since the Queen's Speech and conservationists are lobbying for the measures to be included in the Queen's Speech next year.

23 September 1998: Grey day for survival hopes of red squirrel
26 August 1998: 1 in 10 tree species in danger of extinction
3 August 1998: Lethal parasite tightens grip on honey bees
7 July 1998: [International] Vanishing frogs and toads set puzzle for task force

 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2006 at 08:46
 
We be doomed, doomed, d'ye hear?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2006 at 09:11
I hate mankind.  Oddly funny that I am listening to Childhood's End and Aftre the Flood right now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2006 at 09:18
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

I hate mankind.  Oddly funny that I am listening to Childhood's End and Aftre the Flood right now.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2006 at 09:29

I can't really comment on the moths, but as far as the bumble bees go, I see many, many different species here in our garden - which at the moment consists of about an acre of once splendid gardens, now unfortunately neglected for the past year or so. Seems to be perfect conditions for them. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the limiting factor for bumble bees is the availability of suitable nest sites (they reuse old mouse & vole nests), so I suppose the fact that we have a huge population of voles is the key. Plenty of moths & butterflies too, in fact. And wasps, hornets & all manner of biting flies.........

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2006 at 09:45
Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

one day we will realise that we have wiped out most species on this planet, destroyed the ozone layer and put the whole future of the planet in jeopardy. For now, as long as the fat cats continue getting fatter then why worry. Arseholes.Angry


This is probably one of the few things most of us PA members agree about.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2006 at 14:17
Yes Geck0 the human race is a plague, and brings nothing but destruction. Ignore all of its accomplishments.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2006 at 14:20

This thread is so Nietzche.  *rolls eyes*


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2006 at 14:30
Oh you love it really!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2006 at 15:21
(picture of Gecko eating moth)

"I spent two evenings watching geckos hunt. It was fascinating. This gecko has just caught a moth. They sit completely motionless for long periods of time near a light. When a moth lands close enough, they position themselves towards the moth and then grab it. They are incredibly fast when they pounce on the moth."
 
.....now we know why the moths are in trouble.....LOL
 
from an interesting website:
 
 
(The picture in question is about half way down the page, LHS)
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