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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 08 2006 at 09:23 | ||
Thanks vogre for all the information, have been having some real trouble trying to find any information whatsoever on the band so this is a good start. I will have a read through the Record Heaven article sometime soon. A lot of read but I interested in this scene so I think it is going to be work my while.
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 08 2006 at 09:29 | ||
I would like to bring to the attention to the Mexican RIO band called Decibel. For what I can see they are not the site but from what I have read they were one of the bands to join the moment.
Here is a little bit of information aboout the band, all four of their albums are available from: www.forcedexposure.com "A Chamber/Experimental/RIO & Progressive rock band from Mexico. The band started in 1974 as a trio and then they became a sextet. The band were influenced by European acts like Magma, Faust, Henry Cow and also by Avant-Garde composers like Pierre Henry, Kagel, Stockhausen. In 1978 they recorded their masterpiece 'El Poeta Del Ruido' which is considered by many as a Masterpiece. They evolved then into Nazca and only in the 90's formed back. The box set features a 28 pages booklet in a thick carton box with three CD's (Each more then 74 minutes). CD #1 is made from the 70's and featured for the 1st time the complete unedited 'El Poeta Del Ruido', Unreleased UNAM sessions which one of them was on the ReR sampler and never on CD plus the 1st RIO Festival live performance. CD #2 features the 90's material including the bands favorite improvised album Furtuna Virilis and other unreleased material. CD #3 is a new live performance of new material never on CD and with great interest plus 30 minutes if Archives from the 1977-1978." Also if people are interested you are able to have a bit of a listen to there acclaimed album "el Poeta del Ruido" on this site. You have to scroll down a little to find it. voltagecontrolledtechnicolor.blogspot.com/ |
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Posted: July 08 2006 at 17:06 | ||
I think it's a REALLY awful idea to buy Zorn recordings on a whim. They cover every angle. I learned too that you never really just see a Zorn album in the store, form a preconcept of what it will be, and then buy it. If you're going to get some Zorn without knowing what it'll be beforehand, don't allow other musical ideas to get in your head. I don't own this recording myself because it's far too noisy for my liking, but I don't think it's any less of an album. It's a 100% improvised show Frith and Zorn did, and it's quite an interesting recording - just not worth enough repeated listens to own. For future reference, definitely sample Zorn recordings on amazon.com or something of the like before buying. His 50th ann. series vary all over the place, much of which are improvised noise like shows. Some crash and burn, but others, such as Hemophiliac or Painkiller (vol.s 6 an 12), shine brilliantly. This post is a little rushed (I have to be somewhere very soon!) but I hope it answers your question! I wanted to get back to you as quickly as possible. |
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eugene
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 30 2005 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 2703 |
Posted: July 08 2006 at 17:13 | ||
Well, thanks RP. If HUGE fan finds it to be "not worth enough repeated listens to own" and "noise like show" - I guess my first impresion was quite correct. I have no slightest regret in buying it - just wanted to check other people's opinion about it. It is far too noisy for my likings too.
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 09 2006 at 04:35 | ||
In light of DallasBryan's recommendation of Material I thought this link could be of some interest.
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Joren
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 07 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 6667 |
Posted: July 09 2006 at 06:12 | ||
They are on the RIO-team's voting chart. |
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Joren
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 06:14 | ||
The internet certainly makes the world a lot smaller... somebody in Australia listening to Simeon ten Holt and Douwe Eisenga... who would've though it. About the concert with the drill: it was not filmed, so you must've seen some other show. |
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Joren
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 06:17 | ||
I'll keep on trying witht the game pieces, I'll keep on trying. I will read your reviews as well; it should be interesting to read about another "fan"'s view on things. |
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Joren
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 09:00 | ||
About Taal: I changed my mind and I think they are better off in Art Rock after all. The Prog Reviewers and other Collaborators are currently discussing their position at my request (fueled by the Taal thread). We'll see what happens after voting.
Edited by Joren - July 09 2006 at 09:01 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: July 09 2006 at 09:02 | ||
How are enjoying Mister Greem, Joren?
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Joren
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 09:11 | ||
It's very nice, although I like Skymind better. Then again, I have only listened to Mr. Green once now, and I've played Skymind a few times already. Anyway, IMO: Taal = nice, but not as good as some of the reviewers say. I think I agree with Hugues Chantraine's reviews (as I do surprisingly often ), only I would consider rewarding Skymind with 3,5 or 4 stars. Thanks to the people who "recommended" the albums to me! Edited by Joren - July 09 2006 at 09:11 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 09:25 | ||
Oh you need to listen to Mister Green more. I prefer Skymind also (but it's a close call), but Mister Green is very rewarding.
Both albums are around 4.5 or so for me. I find the opening track on Skymind drags on a bit too long, but apart from that, there aren't any real problems. It's more progressive than many albums in my collection and possibly more progressive than many RIO/Avant-Prog albums too. And I wouldn't really compare it to KC's LTiA! |
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Joren
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 09:53 | ||
I didn't mean to compare the actual music. I only meant the "avant-gardeness" (what a word ) of the material at hand. Taal's music is not as dissonant and foreboding as say, Univers Zero, but it's experimental in a way that LTiA is... then again LtiA is much older, so more avant-garde for that time. Taal is more of an eclectic band really... Anyway, I hope you know what I mean now... Edited by Joren - July 09 2006 at 09:53 |
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avestin
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 12:37 | ||
Off topic for a second. We talked abuot Jewlia Eisenberg and Charming Hostess before and it appears she will perform here at the end of July with local musicians. The problem is I don't really know what to expect. It's not too expensve either (13-15$). But from what I heard by Charming Hostess, I am not convinced I shuold go. Plus, I am not sure my wife will go with me. She will perform in Belgium afterwards.
You can go back to Taal and the rest. How about those atonalities, eh? |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 12:39 | ||
Assaf, defend me about Taal in the Taal thread!
Well, if she's with other musicians, she may not be that bad... can it really hurt? You may miss out on something excellent, or you may witness something awful. Take your pick! Edited by Geck0 - July 09 2006 at 12:40 |
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 09 2006 at 14:42 | ||
I have seem there has been a little arguements in the Taal thread. But i Don't think I am going to be of much help Assaf, with the concert, it's really is not that much. But for me I'm not really much of a concert goer if it is not a band that I love. If I think it is going to be risky I would prefer to spend the money on a new CD. But I guess the decision is up to you if it was me personally I would not bother going (to put it bluntly). Also I think I am the same with the Charming Hostess, listed to it a few times now and it really isnot doing much for me, though better than their later works. |
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Apsalar
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 14:46 | ||
Also has anybody other that chamberry tried out Decibel? I'm not they're the best thing ever but they were a part of the RIO moment back in the late '70s early '80s, so they hold some historical values. I'm just surprise they seemingly have pretty much just been forgotten.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 16:13 | ||
To go off topic for a moment...
Adam, have you checked out Scott Walker's latest album? I think this is rather minimalistic with it's sound and you may appreciate it. Having said that, you may hate it! |
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chamberry
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 16:19 | ||
Decibel is a good band. Although I have heard the albums two times, I've noticed they have strong space rock sound even though they are a RIO band. The album is pretty laid back and not quirky or anything like it. I can see alot of Krautrock fans liking this band.
Any other thoughts? |
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: July 09 2006 at 16:29 | ||
That name just went straight over my head. I cannot say I have have never heard of him before. Could you tell me a little about him? Minimalistic sounds good! don't fear, even if I don't like him I will give reasoning to it. I not one to say things without backing. |
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