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avestin
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Too much Avantgarde can damage your brain
I'd like to recommend now a French musician called Alain Markusfeld - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2482
Look here for his releases: http://www.musikafrance.com/pages/pages_markusfeld/markusfeld_cadre.html
His discography here in PA is incomplete. I will file a complaint to the Discographies Editor for not doing his job. Wait a minute... that's me... Well I'll slap myself later and I will add the missing albums this week.
Now this artist makes beautiful ethereal music, spacey in nature with some relaxing and soothing voices (both male and female). Somewhat psychedelic at times. They actually sound stoned.
I have the 2 albums listed here on PA:
Both are similar in sound and make a nice and relaxing listen for when the Avantgarde has driven you over the edge. But the 2nd one, Le Son... shows a progression from the first in sound quality and in complexity. As Oliverstoned notes in his review of the album it features two known musicians: Joכl Dugrenot on bass (Clearlight, Delired cameleon family, Zao) and Laurent Thibault (Magma). He has apparentely evolved with the following albums, as the bio here says.
Not a mindblowing album, but I think this is some very nice music to discover and listen to in addition to all the stuff you already know.
Here are the two only reviews on those albums by Oliverstoned:
I think this would be a nice addition to someone who is interested in knowing more of the French prog scene and likes space/psychedelkic prog.
EDIT: I just wanted to update that I added the missing albums by Markusfeld
EDIT 2: I wrote a review about Le Monde En Etages - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=82431 Edited by avestin - July 02 2006 at 09:38 |
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Apsalar
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I think if you look through that insects and individual site you might find some things that interest you. That is where I found out about all those artist I stated above.
Well I have to say after all that Avant-garde, my head is throbbing and my sanity has been thrown out the window But it was a great day. Also I have suggested that Brast Burn should be add on the site (I started a thread in the suggestion section). Karuna Khyal's album is in the archives and they are the same band under different names, with a very similar sound. I like to think almost like Japanese Kraut Rock |
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avestin
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^^^
Besides Smegma which I have, I don't know anything from there. You got me really curious now. I love those unknown/underground albums and groups, especially when their sound invloves the word Avantgarde...
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Regarding förklädd gud - jazz i sverige, I found some things in the following places:
It's too bad I don't know Sverige since most info is naturally in that language.
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Apsalar
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Just though I would show everybody the little play is have going for
today. I think most people will not have heard of these so hopefully
this is going to be helpful.
BRAST BURN - Debon Track listing: 1. Debon Part 1 (23.28) 2. Debon Part 2 (22.28) KARUNA KHYAL - Alomoni 1985 1. side a 24'32 2. side b 22'30 There is very little know about this Japanese band, other than they think this the same band under different name. No line up is know. This is a website with a little bit of information, review and other such things. http://www.stalk.net/paradigm/pd0708.html THE DECAYES - Not Yet (1980) 1. shoot 'em in the head 4'33 2. my house in iran 2'19 3. right now 3'00 4. we just want money 4'00 5. i'm not a clown 1'39 6. only fourteen 4'45 7. look at that man 3'31 8. coffee 2'42 9. what a drag 3'59 10. no good 4'00 11. all my friends are trees 4'27 And interesting Avant-garde electronic band from the USA who produced four albums in the late '70s and early '80s. förklädd gud - jazz i sverige 771. suite birth 26'40 2. davis' cup 3'37 3. fläsklägg 6'31 4. ditt rosa kranium 5'16 5. hopplös flamenco 7'30 6. after ours 1'07 A fantastic Jazz improved/Avant-garde album from Sweden. In someways reminds me of the band Smegma, which will get a turn next. Iskra - Allemansrätt (ett minne för livet 1977) 1. den ensamme cyklisten 5'58 2. klirr - tolv man i skogen 6'54 3. vedkraft 4'43 4. grodsymfonin 5'15 5. en syl i vädret 4'19 6. till katarina blum 7'04 7. gula flöjten 4'27 8. halte kameraden 3'35 Yet another Swedish Avant-garde group Smegma - Glamour Girl 1941 1. difference 3'50 2. 1980 a.r. (after radiation) 3. prowing nose 4. die wo-wo 14'00 5. i am not artist 6'01 6. ladies nite at the ortho lounge 3'55 7. half a billion 7'38 These guys have just been passed by the RIO/avant prog team. A must for anybody who is into Avant-garde music. I Voag - The Way Out 1. front door 2. hall 3. kitchen 4. toilet 5. living room 6. bedroom 7. the way out 8. the lengthy pause 9. franco's prayer 10. the raw end (of the tits, bum & challenge deal) 11. boxing and sparing (with the third dimension) 12. the goalkeepers fear of the piss-up 13. planning-budgeting-shopping 14. helping the police with their enquiries 15. your own hair - your own chance 16. el cada dia del gente comun 17. the tuned knife and fork toned down to a light lunch 18. the monumental Side project of one of the members of the Homosexuals. Sited as "bedroom psych, sound collage, and avant noise" Also availble from ReR records. If anybody is interested more in some of these bands just get in contact with me, or if you do a little bit of googling I think you will find what you are looking for |
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Anyone who is a fan of latter day Porcupine Tree but who has not heard their earlier albums here's what I recommend:
1. The Sky Moves Sideways (1995): Absolutly perfect mix of spacey, electronically-manipulated ambience and spacy jams. Beautiful music, but at times unsettling!
2. Up the Downstair (1993): Similar to The Sky Moves Sideways, but with more simple poppy songs (with the same tinge of electronics).
3. Metanoia (1998): Mostly improvised, with a dominantly subdued yet unsettling mood and several "freak-out" passages.
4. Signify (1997): A slightly weaker and a bit darker complement to The Sky Moves Sideways.
5. Voyage 34: The Complete Trip (1992): An album recorded trying to achive the experience of a bad acid trip that tears apart a user's psyche!
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Bodkin: DISKOGRAFIE Edited by lubin - June 30 2006 at 17:58 |
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eugene
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I would like to recommend following little known band - Les Projectionnistes. They are mixing jazz-rock with avant-garde elements. The only their album I have "Copie Zero" is a superb listen and a must for RIO/avant/Jazz-rock lovers.
Following is taken from their web-site projectionnistes.com. There are also some samples available on web-site.
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In the musical vignettes of Les Projectionnistes you will hear many divergent strains : love of brass bands and film soundtracks (noir atmospheres and frenetic chase scenes included), but also modal jazz, Raymond Scott-styled eccentric cartoonishness, scorching Hendrixian guitar rock, avant-garde textures, tight funk horn riffing, some Hammond B3 flavors, a Latin tinge, and maybe even a bit of punk for good measure. But Projectionnistes music is no random pastiche of sounds thrown together willy-nilly; the band merge all of the aforementioned influences and more together into a unique and singular sound, one that seems utterly familiar because you have heard these stylistic antecedents before, but never combined together in quite the same way. Ear-catching melodies, clever arrangements, monster grooves, killer chops, sensitivity, and subtlety are all part of the puzzle, yet all fit together seamlessly, such that the lines between the puzzle pieces disappear from view. With Claude St-Jean at the helm, who is also the musical director of the brass band L’Orkestre des Pas Perdus, the musicians that make up Les Projectionnistes come from diverse backgrounds. They have worked in Montreal’s jazz, rock and “musique actuelle” scenes : Bernard Falaise on electric guitar, Pierre Labbé on tenor saxophone, Roberto Murray on alto saxophone, Tommy Babin on acoustic bass and Rémi Leclerc on drums. They are known to choose in their repertoire from their two CD release, Vue (2005) and Copie zéro (1999). Formed in 1996, the group is also noted for its performances of improvised music accompanying classical surrealist films. They have left powder marks of their performances at the Montreal Inter-national Jazz Festival , at the Vancouver Jazz Festival and at Ottawa Jazz Festival, at AMG EdgeFest in Ann Arbor U.S.A., the Rencontres de musique actuelle at Usine C, at Quai des Brumes in Montreal, at the Toronto Downtown Jazz Festival and the Soirées des Musiques Fraîches in Québec City and in St-Malo, France. This is projection without film, a volatile mix of raw energy, stimulating, bracing and best seen and heard in the dark. unquote This is one great band! Enjoy! Edited by eugene - June 30 2006 at 17:58 |
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Certif1ed
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Here's a concept album for you:
Not Prog Rock, but unique and progressive nonetheless. It's sleazy, sultry and downright funky in places - Surprise yourself, or enjoy this reminder of a great and overlooked masterpiece. Edited by Certif1ed - June 28 2006 at 08:34 |
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Apsalar
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I would like to recommend the band Nosound To all those lovers of early Porcupine Tree and No-Man.
The deubt album is entitled Sol29 Track listing 1. In the white air (6:57) 2. Wearing lies on your lips (4:20) 3. The child's game (2:46) 4. The moment she knew (9:38) 5. Waves of time (2:07) 6. Overloaded (6:13) 7. The broken parts (6:24) 8. Idle End (9:43) 9. Hope For The Future (5:57) 10. Sol29 (10:01) Just a few quotes that might interest people "...This is very good material, and I think you are going in the right direction for sure - I would certainly retain as much control as possible by continuing to do as much as possible yourself, at least until your "vision" is defined..." Steven Wilson of Porcupine Tree & "Out of all the Porcupine Tree and No-Man influenced work we've received at Burning Shed, Giancarlo Erra's Nosound project is very probably the best. Displaying musical sensitivity along with some haunting melodies, interesting chord sequences and expressive guitar solos, his music shows genuine potential." Tim Bowness of No-Man Visit http://www.seaoftranquility.org/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=3498 for an in depth review of the album. Here are some links concerning the band: www.nosound.net/ Offical website where you can listen to some of the music and read up on many reviews www.myspace.com/nosoundnet Their MySpace page, where you can sample 4 songs. |
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Hopeless
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Okay, i think i'l try Black Virgin later.
I just don't like female sing in metal. I like female as spouse and as Rhytm Voices.
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avestin
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^^^^^
I know Metal Archives and while the yhave a vast database their descriptions aren't always right.
Virgin Black is more leaning to avantgarde metal than towards the classic Doom genre.
Dreams of Sanity is not really a Goth metal band. It is actually now on the list of prog metal bands to be added to PA. Two female singers fronted prog metal band.
And as Black Velvet said:
"this is a thread is meant for people to recommend music they love without the fear of prejudice from other forum members."
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Hopeless
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Yes, i was refering to Black Virgin And Dream Of Sanity. |
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avestin
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A nice website about progressive music in different countries and parts of the world and also by genres etc. with reviews:
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avestin
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This is exactly what I started this thread. You pronounced my sentiments exactly.
I am getting Taboo and Exile soon by the way.
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Apsalar
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Now getting on with business, my next recommendation.
I would like to recommend John Zorn - Taboo And Exile (Music Romance Volume II). A lot of people seemingly have not heard his material other than what he did with Naked City. With a massive catalogue, it is really hard to know where to start. For me this I think this would be a great place begin, hence why I am recommending this album. I'm to lazy at the momemt to go searching for another reivew, so you are going to have to put up with mine “Taboo and Exile (Music Romance Volume II)” is the second addition to the “Music Romance” series. The series themes focus around the issue of lost innocence. For those who have not heard the first album “Music for the Children (Music Romance Volume I)” makes direct references to childhood experiences; expressing the ideas firmly and clearly alongside extensive linear notes. Volume II touches upon more sinister concepts than childhood, giving the album an overall dark atmosphere. In comparison to volume I this album takes a more cryptic notation. In the front spread of the booklet there is a picture of a half naked girl; depicting the thin line between the grasps we have upon the innocence in our lives. There is only one quote accompanying the album, which reads as follows: “A white room with white curtains hides the face of a sleeping child, barely a child, barely asleep, leaving nothing but an image, the sky’s double, to discover one’s innocence.” I find it important to discuss the meanings behind this album before touching upon the musical aspects. “Taboo and Exile (Music Romance Volume II)” becomes a far more personal affair in comparison to the first volume; not to mention most of his other works. Due to the lack of linear notes we are left to use our own imagination to devise meanings behind the songs. I hold the album close to me for the reason of personal context I have development over the numerous listenings. Now to describe the music: “In The Temple of Hadajarim” sets the dark mood right from the start, beginning with a hypnotic percussion loop accompanied by lust strings. As the piece Evolves Jamie Safts’ piano takes charge of the song, taking us on a jazzy journey. This is a beautifully dark and compelling song, setting up the perfect reflective mood for the rest of the album to come. The tranquil mood is broken into shardes as the first notes of “Sacrifist” pound through the speakers. The drumming plays a large feature in this song, as they do in the rest of the album. You could easily classify this piece as metal, drawing close influences from the heavier side of King Crimson. Fred Frith and Marc Ribot grace us with some amazingly frantic guitar work, displaying their astounding technical skills in both improv and structured surroundings. “Mayim” takes us through a complex interplay between the violin, cello and bass. At times we are lulled into an enticing sense of security only to be quickly confronted by a restless desperation. Throughout; the Dark atmosphere is built up in a theocratical way forming a certain urgency prevailing over the piece. It is during performances like this I can comprehend the acclimations for the violin being the devils instrument. With “Koryojang” we are confronted once again with hypnotic drumming. The song creates almost an earthy atmosphere somewhat similar to the calmness after a storm. Subconsciously as the song evolves, ambient background noises weave there way into the song producing a trance like effect. For me this song has its roots in deeply within Darkwave; every time I listen to this song it reminds me of “Arcana’s – Le Serpent Rouge”. “Bulls Eye” is a short interlude piece which unfortunately sticks out like a sore thumb. The song sounds much like a ‘70s punk band accompanied by the intense vocals of Mike Pattern. For me this track really doesn’t do anything for the album, but luckily doesn’t wreak the overall mood. “Zeraim” is a beautiful piece which could slip nicely into Zorn's Masada works. He uses the tonal values of the violin to their fullest beauty, lacing complex melodies effortlessly with soft percussion and a gentle piano line. For me “Thaalapalassi” acts as the centre piece of the album and without a doubt my favourite track on the album. ‘Dark’ is not a strong enough word to relate the emotions conveyed by this song, sounding very close to what some have sited as “ambient heavy metal”. This is quite an experienmental piece; starting solely with an ambient sound scape. Layering each instrument the song builds up engrossing the listen with anticipation of the nearing crescendo; not dissimilar to the technique most post-rock/metal bands take aboard. After climaxing the piece rears back into experienmental ambience, slowly fading away into nothing. With words, I cannot express the darkness presented in this song, but in ways I am reminded of Sunn o))) and King Crimsons more experimental works. "Makkot" acts like “Zeraim’s” sister track, drawing upon many similar influences. The track has slight touches of folk and acts as a stark contrast to the terrifying “Thaalapalassi”. It posses a very Masaha-esque sound. This is not surprising looking at the line up for both for pieces - Mark Feldman on violin, Erik Friedlander on cello, and Greg Cohen on bass; also known as the “Masada String Trio.” “A Tiki for Blue” yet again takes another turn in terms of genre. This is a very laid back piece of surf orientated music and for me personally one of the down point of the albums. John Zorn’s only feature comes on “The Possessed”, but he sure makes his presence known. Flirting his phenomenal talents on the sax in just about every register possible. I think I am always going to be bias when it comes to discussing the master ship of his instrument, but this is truly an impressive performance. “Oracle” is a strange almost trance like song. The base line is built up overtop a persistent percussion loop and cello. The whole monotonous feeling is added upon by the childish Japanese vocals. There are no actual lyrics but she precedes throughout the entire song to moaning the same nonsense line over and over. As unappetising as this may sound it is quite a digestible track. “Koryojang (end credits)” finishes the album off nicely with an indigenous sounding percussion loop, slowly fanding out into nothing. “Taboo and Exile (Music Romance Volume II)” is one of the most accessible albums I have heard by John Zorn. I would recommend this as a great starting place for those making their first step into his material. Music wise I find this album to be comparable to his Naked City works, only toning down the intensity several notches. A wide variety of genres are explored throughout the album; which is the case with nearly his whole discography. For most parts this is a breath of fresh air to main bulk of his inaccessible albums, though I would not go as far as saying this is easy listening. Hight recommended! For those wanting further information discussing his works, you will find this site extremely informative: www.omnology.com/zorn01.html Edited by Black Velvet - June 26 2006 at 21:31 |
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Apsalar
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What a coincidence! Now I am really confused I should not jump to conclusions next time |
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eugene
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I think there's been lots of mistakes too....
I think DreamTheater was refering to Black Virgin and Dream of Sanity recommended by avestin on the 15th of February in his very first post in this thread...?....
Never mind - he is new here.
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Apsalar
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Hmmm... I think there has been some mistakes here. Dream Theater, there has been a rather confound missjudgement in the identity between the two bands state above. Each have nothing in common with the Metal bands you have likened them too. Yes there are metal bands of the same name but have nothing in common with these recommended bands. Carpe Diem. Is a very good French Symphonic Prog band. You will be able to listen to one of their tracks here on this site. Thanks eugene from introducing me to this band http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=843 and Morpheus. Is a jazz fusion band from german, which I consiquently know little about. But you will able to read a little more about them here: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1318 Also this is a thread is meant for people to recommend music they love without the fear of prejudice from other forum members. And hopefully expand our views on prog as a whole. Peace |
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I talked about the first recommend ><''
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avestin
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Who are you talking to and on what subject?
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