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I can definately see where you are coming from with the Robert Wyatt material. But for some reason my strange taste are always going to be a factor for me

It is funny... I find some stuff they label as Post Rock can have a lot of Avant-Garde leanings. This band I have been listening to of late called Hanged Up. Most places you will see them catagorised as Post Rock, but I would tend to classify them on the boardline between the two.

I actually have two Matching Mole albums (first and second)... but I really need to get round to listening to them. Now you have mentioned it I might do once I get home from work. I tell you what I think. I started listening to the Debt album the other day but didn't make it past the first song O Caroline. I have heard it gets a lot better from here on in, so I should give it another listen.

Also I was going ask you.. have you had any experiences with Art Zoyd yet?

Black Velvet wrote: Root_Pepper wrote: RIO/Avant-Prog and Zeuhl have to be my favorite genres of music. This thread is very resourceful, thanks! Great to see another person on this site getting into this genre. So what are some of your favourite bands from the genre?

Let's see, not all these might be officially considered so, but this is what I think of out of the groups I'm into:

Ahvak
Guapo
Henry Cow
Haino Keiji
Yoshida Tatsuya/Ruins/Koenjihyakkei
Univers Zero
Frank Zappa
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
Idiot Flesh
Mike Patton/Hemophiliac/Fantomas
Magma
Noxagt
Otomo Yoshihide
Zoot Horn Rollo
Residents
Thinking Plague

Hmmmmm I don't know, those were off the top of my head so I'm forgetting some - but it gives you a general idea. Most of all I listen to Henry Cow or Yoshida Tatsuya and his whole world of things. I really like the grinding dense heavy types of RIO and zeuhl.

P.S. I know Primus probably isn't exactly considered so, but I sure do love Primus.


Edited by Root_Pepper - June 29 2006 at 21:42

Geck0 wrote: I gather O Caroline is more like a poppy, Soft Machine type number.  I happen to love Soft Machine, so I doubt it'll bother me.No, I've yet to experience Art Zoyd.I have experienced one track by the following though:5uusThinking PlagueI quite liked them, but the 5uus track hasn't stuck in my mind all that much.I want to get some:SMM/ZMMArt ZoydUnivers ZeroPresent (especially as I've heard they are one of the darkest of the genre)And possibly some Zeuhl (I am not sure if I'll enjoy Magma just yet.

I cannot say I am to farmilar with 5uus myself; other than hearing a few tracks, and truthfully they did nothing for me.

But I definately can recommend Thinking Plague. For me they keep getting better with each listen, there has never been a time when I have not pick up there albums and found something new upon each listen. When I first heard them I thought they sounded quite simple and digestable, but the more I listen the more I came to see how complex the band is as a whole. I would recommend you start with "The History of Madness" it would be my favourite album by them, just taking the cake over "In Etremise"

If you are enjoying these two bands I would also suggest Ahvak which Assaf has recently introduce me into. They are another one of David Kerman's groups. They have a lot darker sound then the two aformention bands, which is always a good thing.

I cannot recommend Art Zoyd enough... they would have to be my favourite band at the moment. Unlike a lot of people I also love their later works, which have a lot to do with sound tracks to films and take the artist context very seriously, which can be a turn off for some people. So it might be better starting of with their earlier works in the '70s and '80s. As a starting point you cannot go wrong with their first three albums:
- Symphonie Pour Le Jour Où Brûleront Les Cités
- Musique Pour L’Odyssée
- Génération Sans Futur
for me these are all masterpiece of Chamber rock.

I only have one album by Univers Zero, Heresie. But it is one of the best things since sliced bread So after hearing this album I am definately going to have to get more of there works. But if you are looking for dark music these guys are a must.

Present is a side project of Univers Zero. I have the two lastest albums by Present "High Infidelity" and "A Great Inhumane Adventure". They are very good, but a warning they are quiet repeaditive. They are very dark, and have some some strange and interesting lyrics. If I were you I would check out Univers Zero first and then if you like try these guys next.

I own both MM albums and have listened to them quite a bit (even compiled reviews). The first is better then LRR, although I'd say LRR is extremely enjoyable and unique, perhaps do to the Eno or Fripp influences in the project. "O Caroline" is one of Wyatt's best pop songs, although it's absolutely nothing like any of the other MM material.  Both albums are definitely worth picking up.

Good morning felas  Having fun I see.

Well first of all to Root Pepper, you have a very good list there. Some of the artists/ groups you mentioned I am now trying to get my hands on (Haino Keiji, Idiot Flesh, Noxagt ,  Otomo Yoshihide,  Zoot Horn Rollo ). The others are very good bands I am also listening to and loving them.

To BV and Geck0, as for Univers Zero - besides Heresie which is great and belonging to the earlier phase of UZ (meaning acoustic sound of UZ) you should also try Ceux Du Dehors, Uzed and Heatwave.
Implosion is also very good.

I agree with BV's comments on Art Zoyd. The three albums he recommended are indeed great (also released as a boxset).

5UU's are good in my opinion. I like Hunger's Teeth and Crisis in Clay. Their souind on crisis in clay is not that far off from Thinking Plague's In Extremis. They can be quite chaotic and then change to some nice calm parts (take for example Comeuppance which is the first song in Crisis in Clay).
Give them some more listening and see what you come to feel about them.

I will HOPEFULLY get some of these albums you mentioned soon and so I will be able to tell you what they are like (and you probably could enjoy them too...)


I have this: Boris - Amplifier Worship.  Is this the same Boris you talk about?

^^^^
Boredons are to be added to PA, so this night also be a potential addition.

Tell us what it is like.

You can see the RIO/Avant chart (as well as the prog metal and post rock ones) here:

http://www.ratingfreak.com/go/mer/s,showPageWithLanguage,9_q1klWYtB,cxW0_xC1mxqZ6JrYc_a2_NrLkJr0bpWZoFG086WYmRH,4Fa0jtW3hxW2nB,8xa0nVX0_JH,nB,_tG.xhtml

Choose the genre at the bar in the top.

Yes it is that Smegma. Insane band. I have that one ans also Schrammel Oi!


My Skinny Wonderland is borderline but I thuoght it should at least be in as Prog-related.

48 Cameras I voted against because I did not hear anything in them that made me think they should have a spot in the category (I did like it though).

I hope to add Boredoms and Stormy Six soon.

By the way, I am now listening to another band on the list called Die Anarchistische Abendunterhaltung (DAAU). I am not really sure about them. There is a violin, clarinet, what sounds like an accordion and this seems to be chamber music that is very nice and catchy, with no real "symptoms" of the RIO/AVant genres.
I am now listening to 3 albums of theirs:
Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain
Life Transmission
Magisches theater eintritt etc
They are not all three alike, so this description refers to : Magisches theater eintritt nicht fur jedermann nur fur verruckte eintritt kostet den verstand


EDIT:
Here are some links:
http://www.daau.com/
http://houbi.com/belpop/groups/anarchistische.htm
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=55858227



Edited by avestin - June 30 2006 at 14:58

^^^
I'll get back o you on that, must go now, SORRY!