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Geck0 wrote: Sotos - Platypus is very interesting so far guys, thanks for mentioning them to me!  I still want the debut though!

eugene wrote: Geck0 wrote: Sotos - Platypus is very interesting so far guys, thanks for mentioning them to me!  I still want the debut though!   I am hesitating whether Platypus is an absolute masterpiece or very close to being masterpiece. It actually depends on my mood when listening. And I want their debut too!!!!!

I glad everybody is enjoying this fantastic album Also I can give my recommendation on their first album. I don't think it quite reaches the highs of Platypus, but it is still a fantastic album.

Geck0 have you had time to listen to Zaar's album yet? If you like Sotos you will love this album.
     

Yeah Taal are a total different bread. Have only listened to Skymind and so far I have not really been overly impressed, I mean I can tell it is a really good album but for some reason it really has not sat to well with me. Though I do love the female vocals.

You will try and have to spread to word about Sotos to others one this site

Trouserpress wrote: Re: Charming Hostess on PA. It's not up to me alone, but I'd say definitely. I don't know about their a capella work, but judging by what others have said, it might be sensible to treat them as different groups and only add Eat and Punch to the archives, with maybe a brief discussion of their post-big band lineup in the biog.

I think that would be a great idea. From what I have heard of there later material, it doesn't possess the same progressiviness of their band material. So Eat and Punch would be a good addition, with side mention of their later work. But that is just my opinion.

Trouserpress wrote: So, umm... have I mentioned Wha-ha-ha on this thread yet? I'm really eager to get some discussion going about them. Progreviews - have they come under your radar? If not, they're e-f***ing-ssential in my opinion.

After you and Assaf mentioning the greatness of this band I'm going to have to track these guys down. I have had a little browse of the internet to find some information. When I saw the words "Japanese Avant-garde/noise" it really got me exicted. I have been looking a lot into the Japanese scene and they were a band I breifly looked over. They appear to have three albums, so which would you suggest as a starting point?
   

avestin wrote: @ BV, I have been and will be exploring more modern composers (Branca, Glass, Reich etc) and I think thi deserves a thread of its own.

This would be a very interesting conversation topic... the only problem is I don't know how much participation from other members on this board it would recieve (though I might be plesently surprised). I'm very interested in 20th Century classical alongside minimalist piano composers.

avestin wrote: On another note, I am listening lately to Robert Wyatt's albums - Rock Bottom and End of an Ear. I think he can be considered an avantgarde artist pioneer with those albums (I am not too familiar with his output as a solo artist). Do you care for his solo work?

I think if you ask a lot of people they would tell you "The End of and Ear" is actually the beginning album of the whole RIO moment. Though I have not heard it so I cannot comment upon this matter first hand. I own two albums by Robert Wyatt. Rock Bottom and Shleep. My favourite out of those two album would be Shleep, it is a very playful album in comparison to the melancholy atomsphere surrounding Rock Bottom. I find Rock Bottom a little too self indulging for my tastes, but this can be understandable from the occurances surrounding his life at the time of writing this album (though I do still love this album)
    

I've heard Wyatt's debut and it is indeed quite a bit different to Rock Bottom and definitely harder on the ears.  It's actually harder to listen to than Sotos and Taal, but I still enjoyed it.

I've yet to hear Shleep, but Rock Bottom is my favourite album of all time by any artist, of any genre (maybe this will change, but it will always be up in my top 5).  I also have Ruth Is Stranger Than Richard and my brother has his most recent one (although I've yet to hear it).  I don't think all of his albums are RIO/Avant Garde, but End of an Ear and Rock Bottom are.  His later albums were more jazz based, but still wonderful and still quirky.  I've heard a few live versions of tracks from later albums.

That's good news about Zaar also.

I will do, but my priority is to get the live Robert Wyatt album where he played the whole of Rock Bottom and other tracks, including guests.  Apparently his latest, Cuckooland is a return to form.

I have listen to their album "Astronomy Made Easy". I find the band the be quite fusion based taking influences sound wise from Mahavishnu Orchestra but taking Avant-Garde ideas into the structures of there song.

RIO/Avant-Prog and Zeuhl have to be my favorite genres of music. This thread is very resourceful, thanks!

Geck0 wrote: I haven't, but I shall do.I have been listening to what is described as a post-rock band: Primordial Undermind.  Two tracks are available for listening too on last.fm.  Not sure what they are, but they're pretty good!I don't think they're RIO/Avant Garde though.

Have not heard Primordial Undermind.. but I will check out some of those suond samples on last fm when I get some time.

I have now had a few listens to "The End Of An Ear" what a fantastic album, my opinion of him has now incresed ten fold. I'm loving this album... for me this is much better than "Rock Bottom" but I'm sure most people will not agree with me here.