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Topic: Perfect Prog Band Posted: July 24 2004 at 15:50 |
Who would you have in your ultimate prog band, who would you have playing what? this may be another half brained topic but hopefully this one could work
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 24 2004 at 17:32 |
Ok, but remember supergroups almost never work:
Vocals...Peter Gabriel & Annie Haslam: Peter is great with the low ranges and as frontman. Annie would do a great job with the high ranges in which Peter is weak and she incredible.
Bass...John Myung (Dream Theater): Amazing player, very complex style.
Chapman Stick...Tony Levin: Great duo with Myung.
Guitars....Steve Hackett and Steve Howe: Hoping they would do it better than in GTR.
Keyboards...Par Lynd: Incredible keyboardist, even though Wakeman and Emerson are also great, they have too much ego to be part of supergroup, will end killing someone. And Tony Banks is a great band player, but his recent curriculum with Genesis disqualifies him.
Drums...Manu Katche: One of the best and he's in his peak right now, if he never cared being a session musician for Peter Gabriel, I believe he would be perfectly comfortable being part of a band with Peter in vocals.
Flute...Anna Holmgren (Anglagard): Great style and versatility
Violin and Backing Vocals...Robbie Steindhart (Kansas): Ideal for any prog' band and has also a great voice.
Iván
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richardh
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Posted: July 24 2004 at 17:34 |
Keith Emerson -Keyboards
Greg Lake - Vocals and Bass Guitar
Carl Palmer - Drums
But then without a lead guitarist it would never work
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diddy
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Posted: July 24 2004 at 17:56 |
I remember such a thread...but Nevertheless here's my list:
Vocals: Daniel Gildenlöw/Peter Hammill
Keyboards: Jordan Rudess
Bass: Jonas Reingold/Levin for the Stick
Guitar: Robert Fripp/Gilmour/Petrucci
Melotron: Nicklas Berg/Thomas Johnson
Flute and several other wind instruemnts: Richard Harvey (Gryphon)/Anna Holmgren
Saxophone: David Jackson
Drums: Portnoy, Bozzio or Zoltan Csorsz, if noone of these has time, I nominate Bruford
Percussions: Hasse Bruniusson
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threefates
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Posted: July 24 2004 at 21:23 |
richardh wrote:
Keith Emerson -Keyboards
Greg Lake - Vocals and Bass Guitar
Carl Palmer - Drums
But then without a lead guitarist it would never work
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That would be my ultiimate prog band also, Richard!!!!
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THIS IS ELP
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The Prognaut
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Posted: July 24 2004 at 21:40 |
Vocals: Fish / Nicklas Berg / Mariela González
Keyboards: Pär Lindh / Mark Kelly / Pete Bardens
Lead guitar: David Gilmour / Aldo Tagliapietra / Tim Renwick
Bass Guitar: Roger Waters / Louis Roy
Drums: Cozy Powell / Mattias Olsson / Jonas Lidholm
Percussions: Peter Nordis / Ferenc Szabó
Saxophone: Dick Parry / David Jackson
Flute: Stephen Geysens / Lisa de Renzio / Jacek Zasada
Cello: Emila Derkowska / Péter Pejtsik
Acoustic Guitar: Jonas Engdegard
Mellotron: Anna Sofi Dahlberg / Tomas Jonson / Halvard Haugerud
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Marcelo
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Posted: July 24 2004 at 22:11 |
landberkdoten wrote:
Vocals: Fish / Nicklas Berg / Mariela González
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I guess I'll disappoint you, but if you listen to Atempo's album and Mariela González voice, you'll change the female singer. Think about Magdalena Hagberg for your supergroup
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The Prognaut
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Posted: July 25 2004 at 01:15 |
Marcelo wrote:
I guess I'll disappoint you, but if you listen to Atempo's album and Mariela González voice, you'll change the female singer. Think about Magdalena Hagberg for your supergroup
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Gracias por tu preocupación Marcelo! También me considero un asiduo fan de PLP y la operática voz de Magdalena, pero en esta ocasión me quedaré con lo que mis oídos captaron de Mariela en "Detrás del Umbral" y "Metanoia"... y tienes razón, "Abismos del tiempo" es un concepto diferente, (con fusiones de funk, céltico y poco progresivo sinfónico) y en ese mismo contexto, la voz de la hermosa argentina tuvo que amoldarse a la instrumentación, pero aun así no deja de ser fantástica, no te parece?
Saludos,
Land
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richardh
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Posted: July 25 2004 at 05:27 |
landberkdoten wrote:
Vocals: Fish / Nicklas Berg / Mariela González
Keyboards: Pär Lindh / Mark Kelly / Pete Bardens
Lead guitar: David Gilmour / Aldo Tagliapietra / Tim Renwick
Bass Guitar: Roger Waters / Louis Roy
Drums: Cozy Powell / Mattias Olsson / Jonas Lidholm
Percussions: Peter Nordis / Ferenc Szabó
Saxophone: Dick Parry / David Jackson
Flute: Stephen Geysens / Lisa de Renzio / Jacek Zasada
Cello: Emila Derkowska / Péter Pejtsik
Acoustic Guitar: Jonas Engdegard
Mellotron: Anna Sofi Dahlberg / Tomas Jonson / Halvard Haugerud
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Is that a band or an orchestra?
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richardh
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Posted: July 25 2004 at 05:51 |
My non-ELP supergroup:
Zoltan Csorsz - Drums
Geddy Lee - Bass and vocals
Jordan Rudess - Keyboards
Matthew Bellamy - Vocals,guitars and keyboards
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threefates
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Posted: July 25 2004 at 11:50 |
richardh wrote:
My non-ELP supergroup:
Zoltan Csorsz - Drums
Geddy Lee - Bass and vocals
Jordan Rudess - Keyboards
Matthew Bellamy - Vocals,guitars and keyboards
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My non-ELP supergroup:
David Gilmour - vocals, guitars
Greg Lake - vocals, bass
Richard Wright - keyboards
Nick Mason - percussion
Who needs Roger Waters...
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Posted: July 25 2004 at 12:44 |
it might have existed: Fripp & Sylvian with Trey Gunn on bass and Pat Mastelotto on drums in live version (Damage).
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The Prognaut
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Posted: July 25 2004 at 14:32 |
richardh wrote:
landberkdoten wrote:
Vocals: Fish / Nicklas Berg / Mariela González
Keyboards: Pär Lindh / Mark Kelly / Pete Bardens
Lead guitar: David Gilmour / Aldo Tagliapietra / Tim Renwick
Bass Guitar: Roger Waters / Louis Roy
Drums: Cozy Powell / Mattias Olsson / Jonas Lidholm
Percussions: Peter Nordis / Ferenc Szabó
Saxophone: Dick Parry / David Jackson
Flute: Stephen Geysens / Lisa de Renzio / Jacek Zasada
Cello: Emila Derkowska / Péter Pejtsik
Acoustic Guitar: Jonas Engdegard
Mellotron: Anna Sofi Dahlberg / Tomas Jonson / Halvard Haugerud
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Is that a band or an orchestra?
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You never know if all of them can make it to the show, so it's preferable to have some spares, huh?
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Marcelo
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Posted: July 25 2004 at 16:14 |
landberkdoten wrote:
Marcelo wrote:
I guess I'll disappoint you, but if you listen to Atempo's album and Mariela González voice, you'll change the female singer. Think about Magdalena Hagberg for your supergroup
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Gracias por tu preocupación Marcelo! También me considero un asiduo fan de PLP y la operática voz de Magdalena, pero en esta ocasión me quedaré con lo que mis oídos captaron de Mariela en "Detrás del Umbral" y "Metanoia"... y tienes razón, "Abismos del tiempo" es un concepto diferente, (con fusiones de funk, céltico y poco progresivo sinfónico) y en ese mismo contexto, la voz de la hermosa argentina tuvo que amoldarse a la instrumentación, pero aun así no deja de ser fantástica, no te parece?
Saludos,
Land
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Si tenés el disco de Atempo a mano, escuchá con atención algunas vocalizaciones y verás que Mariela desafina bastante. Cuando cantaba en Nexus pasaba lo mismo, pero las partes vocales eran corregidas a través de un proceso electrónico (lo sé a través de la mejor fuente), cosa que con Atempo no se hizo. Igual, ella suena bien y se ve mejor .
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The Prognaut
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Posted: July 25 2004 at 16:34 |
Marcelo wrote:
Si tenés el disco de Atempo a mano, escuchá con atención algunas vocalizaciones y verás que Mariela desafina bastante. Cuando cantaba en Nexus pasaba lo mismo, pero las partes vocales eran corregidas a través de un proceso electrónico (lo sé a través de la mejor fuente), cosa que con Atempo no se hizo. Igual, ella suena bien y se ve mejor .
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Caray! No sabía o había escuchado esa leyenda acerca de los arreglos electrónicos hechos a la voz de Mariela... y aunque confío plenamente en tus palabras (porque cierto es que desentona un poco más en Atempo), existe todavía la duda en mi porque recuerdo haberla escuchado cantar clara y armoniosamente cuando Nexus hizo una pequeña aparición en "La Corte Final" (prog-restaurante en el corazón de la Ciudad de México)... a menos que ahí también se haya presentado esta anomalía del arreglo de su voz y nos deje solamente una hermosa imagen del exterior...
Saludos!
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Posted: July 25 2004 at 17:13 |
I'd say Gentle Giant.
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Posted: July 26 2004 at 06:02 |
JrKASperov wrote:
I'd say Gentle Giant. |
Yep, what more would could you ask for?
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Posted: July 26 2004 at 08:30 |
Vocals: Peter Gabriel & Kate Bush
Flute: Jan Anderson
Bass: John Patitucci
Stick: Tony Levin
Guitars: Steve Hackett
Guitar - Fingerpicking parts: Steve Howe
Lead Guitars: Pat Metheny
Impossible guitar parts: Steve Vai
Keyboards: Flavio Premoli
Lead Keyboards: Keith Emerson
Drums: Phil Collins (don't move from you seat please!! ) & Gary Novak
Percussion: Nana Vasconcelos
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Posted: July 26 2004 at 08:54 |
Foxy wrote:
it might have existed: Fripp & Sylvian with Trey Gunn on bass and Pat Mastelotto on drums in live version (Damage).
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It did - and I saw it at the Albert Hall in London several years ago (the 'First Day' tour)
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Posted: July 26 2004 at 12:47 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
Ok, but remember supergroups almost never work:
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They do occasionally - the first UK album for instance.
However, I largely support of your case. I once asked Allan Holdsworth for a radio interview, whether he would consider working with Metheny or MclLaughlin, and got the terse reply: such musicians will either inhibit each other, because they don't want to show each other up OR they are trying to outdo each other and something gets lost. The best example in my mind of this is Holdsworth playing with Joe Satriani on the title track of Stu Hamm's Radio Free Albumuth - they neutralised each other, and so made the worse record of either guitarists' career (IMHO). I think Truth In Shredding with Holdsworth with Gambale illustrated this too - as did the Metheny/Scofield and Abercrombie/Scofield album projects. However, some bass duos work - check out Rob Wasserman's Trios - perhaps bass players know how to both play lead and backing rhythm?
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